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Temulkar Blaine Liberation Army BricK sQuAD. 35	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:11:00 - [3571] - Quote Karim alRashid wrote: Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim alRashid wrote: Temulkar Blaine, Your posting clearly shows that not even you're not a lawyer, but also you don't have even a vague understanding of law. also, lolUK. Karim your posting clearly shows that you havent understood the serious nature of this issue and you dont even have the vaguest empathy for someone being harrassed. I pity you. You will have hard time convincing me that blowing up internet spaceships constitutes a harassment. Duh we all blow up internet spaceships thats a game. What we dont all do is incite other to harrass sombody so the kill themselves, on a public forum with a live stream on the internet. You see the difference or is basic comprehension of the facts too difficult for you?
Valearx Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 63	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:12:00 - [3572] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: So far there seems a majority in favour of Alexander Gianturco being forced to resign Yeep wrote: short sighted moron with a grudge
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 51	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:12:00 - [3573] - Quote Karim alRashid wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: ExhumeToConsume wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: SWANSEA, Wales -- The student who mocked Bolton midfielder Fabrice Muamba on Twitter after the player collapsed on the field during a match has been jailed for inciting racial hatred. Liam Stacey, a 21-year-old student at Swansea University, admitted to the charge last week and was jailed Tuesday for 56 days. Chief prosecutor Jim Brisbane says "we hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law." Muamba's heart stopped beating on its own for 78 minutes after he collapsed during an FA Cup quarterfinal match against Tottenham on March 17. He remains hospitalized in intensive care. Thats a US paper taking up the story btw. Please educate us as to where "racial hatred" was inspired in this case. The UK student was jailed for posting he hoped somebody died. Gianturco is on film calling for somebody to be harrassed into suicide. If you can't draw a linkage between those stories then nothing much more I can do to educate you. Perhaps you should talk with that wannabe lawyer dude, who was pasting excerpts of the UK law, and fit your versions with one another? Because he's talking about harassment and you're quoting a case of inciting racial hatred. Aren't these distinct in the UK legislation? Completely, if he had not used racial language there would have been no case against that student whatsoever.
Rolf Wesselius Seraph Innovations 0	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:13:00 - [3574] - Quote Yeep wrote: Rolf Wesselius wrote: Look Eve is know as a hive of scammers and griefers,Some people can deal with that. But what Mittani did is even being talked about on kotaku, Even with his apology this Ruined alot if not all goodwill we had with the majority of the gaming community. This could even ** over Dust 514. Sony is heavy anti cyber bullying if CCP does not do something about this Sony could not allow Dust 514 on Sen. Hell this could force heavy anti cyberbullying rules in eve if sony forces it on CCP. I just looked at the front page of Kotaku, theres a lot of stuff about how anime characters are sexy, a bit of Assassin's Creed III coverage oh and if I scroll way down in a side panel theres one poorly researched (again, twitter as a primary source) article. The resignation or non-resignation of The Mittani will likely have a negligible impact on any decision Sony makes. The continued spreading of misinformation and outright lies by short sighted morons with a grudge will do way more damage. I dont care about his resignation im talking about the stuff in eve that can be seen as cyber bullying as a whole this just brought it up. Remember if Sony even feels like it they can kill dust 514 and demand all the development money they invested back from CCP. Even if this is small they can see not acting against this as not giving a damn about cyber bullying and kill dust 514. Im just saying.You look like the smartest goon around so just think about it if this debacle even slightly offends Sony Dust 514 is ****.
Temulkar Blaine Liberation Army BricK sQuAD. 36	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:16:00 - [3575] - Quote Karim alRashid wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: ExhumeToConsume wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: SWANSEA, Wales -- The student who mocked Bolton midfielder Fabrice Muamba on Twitter after the player collapsed on the field during a match has been jailed for inciting racial hatred. Liam Stacey, a 21-year-old student at Swansea University, admitted to the charge last week and was jailed Tuesday for 56 days. Chief prosecutor Jim Brisbane says "we hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law." Muamba's heart stopped beating on its own for 78 minutes after he collapsed during an FA Cup quarterfinal match against Tottenham on March 17. He remains hospitalized in intensive care. Thats a US paper taking up the story btw. Please educate us as to where "racial hatred" was inspired in this case. The UK student was jailed for posting he hoped somebody died. Gianturco is on film calling for somebody to be harrassed into suicide. If you can't draw a linkage between those stories then nothing much more I can do to educate you. Perhaps you should talk with that wannabe lawyer dude, who was pasting excerpts of the UK law, and fit your versions with one another? Because he's talking about harassment and you're quoting a case of inciting racial hatred. Aren't these distinct in the UK legislation? Yes they are distinct in EU law. the racial harrassment part of ythe charge was due to the use of the N word. The breach of the communications act charge was the use of the internet to do so. As for me being a wannabe lawyer no Im not but in my proffessional life I do have to deal with the impact of cyberbullying and yes I have had to deal with the fallout of suicide caused by bullying. I dont guve a damn about him being a goon, I give a damn about somthing that is utterly reprehensible.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 771	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:18:00 - [3576] - Quote He was elected by the Eve community to represent the Eve community. As such, it is inappropriate for him to use a public stage to call for the harrassment of a member of that community and he should either resign or be removed. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1605	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:18:00 - [3577] - Quote Yeep wrote: In my opinion the apology was enough, the isk from his personal wallet was more than needed but if he felt he had to do it then I respect that. If you're unwilling to accept the apology as sincere (which I don't think is the case from your earlier posts but other people will read this) then theres a good chance you're a pitchfork carrying lynchmob and nothing anyone says will convince you until The Mittani hangs. Well here's the thing: ISK from the wallet, whatever tbh, its small change, I've got more than that in my random faction ship fetish pot. Whether the apology is enough will depend on what people personally feel about it. For me it was "enough" as long as he carried through the rest of his twitter pledge and immediately resigned. It stops being "enough" if he goes back on that pledge and tries to cling to power regardless of the stink this will attract to the game as a whole. Yeep wrote: I think if people with conflicting political agendas weren't trying their hardest to spread misinformation about this unfortunate event it would all have blown over days ago. Any sweeping game changes CCP has to make will be on their heads, not The Mittani's but again, nothing I say will convince them of that. I'd hope most of them are just too short sighted to see the likely consequences of their actions. Not to mention the extra harassment of the player in question that the publicity over this issue has caused (but thats good harassment right). Well you are in cloud-cuckoo land to a degree if you think something like this was not always going to blow up. Fanfest had journalists from dozens of online magazines and a technology editor from the BBC present. Those people have a job that involves looking over the video presentations and giving comment. As journalists its their role to seek interesting stories. The fall of an internet spaceship politcian is an interesting story. Combine that with the hot-button issues of cyberbullying, twitter prosecutions, the "fight game" sexism row and you'll see we are in a climate where it was inevitable that Alexander Gianturco was going to make the newsheets. Eve as a game is going big-league, the CCP + SONY partnership and aiming at the world's biggest single universe is going to put it in the spotlight - and you literally can't have some drunken fratboy trust fund princess up on staging calling on people to be harrassed into suicide and that NOT be the story. quote=Yeep] I also think (and theres plenty of evidence to support this right here in this thread) that a lot of the people calling for his resignation haven't even taken the time to think about the issues. Theres a massive bandwagon right now and a lot of people just like bandwagons.[/quote] People understand the issues. Anyone with a child themselves can see issues with cyberbullying and peer pressure harrassment through email, i-phones, social media and such. And regarding this game - I don't think its a question of whether somebody playing eve will commit suicide - but when it happens. In my nine years playing this game I've met many fellow players with emotional issues, depressions, rl issues from post traumatic stress disorder to marital breakups to terminal disease to the whole spectrum of mental problems. Part of being a good CEO in this game is sometimes being a counciller to people having a pretty hard time in real life. This is more than a bandwagon, its possibly the reawakening of a bit of common sense and feeling that the leader of the player council needs some common sense too. quote=Yeep] Finally I think kneejerk resignations are bad for society as a whole despite how trendy they are right now. The Mittani is good at being the chair of the CSM and a good CSM chair makes for a healthier Eve. Sure he should be punished, I'd be pretty chill with a temp ban and never being allowed to speak on the Alliance panel again but his resignation won't solve any actual problems.([/quote] If he gets any kind of ban then he's disbarred from the CSM. Thats one of the rules of running for CSM. If CCP temp banned him 30days for this then he's also out of the CSM for good. But if they give him no kind of punishment whatsoever then anyone who has previously been temp-banned for this kind of harrassment (and there are many) would rightfully point and claim CCP corruption in favour of their CSM chair. Its a horrible situation that CCP have been put in - if they temp ban and kick Mittani off the csm the goons will go nuts and claim they just had 10,000 votes disenfranchised. If they do nothing then everyone else will believe that Goons run CCP by developer corruption and those dodgy contacts Mittani was always boasting of in his addresses. The sensible solution and decent one is for Alexander Gianturco to simply come out now and resign. And I still hope he does this rather than continuing to drag all our reputations through the mud while doing immense damage to CCP's visibility in the gaming (and soon to be) mainstream media. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Valearx Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 63	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:18:00 - [3578] - Quote KanashiiKami wrote: so now goons shall be famous for asking people to kill themselves ... ic ... i bet CCP loves the news coverage it gets ... i have petitioned to CCP for lifetime all account ban for ... this ... alex person ... me2:')o7m8
Karim alRashid Aliastra Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:19:00 - [3579] - Quote Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim alRashid wrote: Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim your posting clearly shows that you havent understood the serious nature of this issue and you dont even have the vaguest empathy for someone being harrassed. I pity you. You will have hard time convincing me that blowing up internet spaceships constitutes a harassment. Duh we all blow up internet spaceships thats a game. What we dont all do is incite other to harrass sombody so the kill themselves, on a public forum with a live stream on the internet. You see the difference or is basic comprehension of the facts too difficult for you? Why don't you first settle on a single version and then we'll talk? Does someone harassed someone else or someone allegedly incited a third party to harass someone else? You seem to be making both claims, as evident from you first saying "someone being harassed" and then saying "incite other to harass somebody".
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 771	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:20:00 - [3580] - Quote Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim alRashid wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: ExhumeToConsume wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: SWANSEA, Wales -- The student who mocked Bolton midfielder Fabrice Muamba on Twitter after the player collapsed on the field during a match has been jailed for inciting racial hatred. Liam Stacey, a 21-year-old student at Swansea University, admitted to the charge last week and was jailed Tuesday for 56 days. Chief prosecutor Jim Brisbane says "we hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law." Muamba's heart stopped beating on its own for 78 minutes after he collapsed during an FA Cup quarterfinal match against Tottenham on March 17. He remains hospitalized in intensive care. Thats a US paper taking up the story btw. Please educate us as to where "racial hatred" was inspired in this case. The UK student was jailed for posting he hoped somebody died. Gianturco is on film calling for somebody to be harrassed into suicide. If you can't draw a linkage between those stories then nothing much more I can do to educate you. Perhaps you should talk with that wannabe lawyer dude, who was pasting excerpts of the UK law, and fit your versions with one another? Because he's talking about harassment and you're quoting a case of inciting racial hatred. Aren't these distinct in the UK legislation? Yes they are distinct in EU law. the racial harrassment part of ythe charge was due to the use of the N word. The breach of the communications act charge was the use of the internet to do so. As for me being a wannabe lawyer no Im not but in my proffessional life I do have to deal with the impact of cyberbullying and yes I have had to deal with the fallout of suicide caused by bullying. I dont guve a damn about him being a goon, I give a damn about somthing that is utterly reprehensible. There was also a recent case of someone in the UK going to jail after posting offensive comments on a dead girl's Facebook tribute. No racism was involved in this case. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Yeep GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 124	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:21:00 - [3581] - Quote Rolf Wesselius wrote: I dont care about his resignation im talking about the stuff in eve that can be seen as cyber bullying as a whole this just brought it up. Remember if Sony even feels like it they can kill dust 514 and demand all the development money they invested back from CCP. Even if this is small they can see not acting against this as not giving a damn about cyber bullying and kill dust 514. Im just saying.You look like the smartest goon around so just think about it if this debacle even slightly offends Sony Dust 514 is ******. Its a little insulting to the intelligence of both CCP and Sony to suggest that they don't both already know what kind of game Eve is. Entering into a business agreement with a company where you have to hope they don't do any research into your primary product is a terrible idea.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1605	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:22:00 - [3582] - Quote Zagdul wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: Implying Implications wrote: People are taking this too far. If it wasn't a goon who said this nobody would have a problem. Why don't you try to put aside your goonish clan identity for a moment and lets talk as adult players of this game. I'm not saying Alexander Gianturco should be prosecuted in real or extradited to iceland or england or whatnot. I'm not saying eve online should become a politically-correct utopia where nobody says boo to a goose. I once caused a mini scandal myself for saying rude things about Verone when I was CSM chair for heaven's sake - I'm no saint. But I didn't use my position on stage at fanfest as a bully pulpit to call for the harrassment of a fellow gamer. I think if we were to meet face to face and share a quiet pint and talk this over you'd agree it went too far and now Gianturco needs to resign for the good of the game. A lot of goon players in this thread seem to be turning it into a persecution complex "its just because he was a goon". It really isn't. Its simply because he had a responsibility to represent this game as an ambassador to the watching media and he flunked it badly. I personally am happy to see Mittani continue to be allowed to play this game. But there has to be some sanction for what he did and if he's not prepared to take responsibility and do the decent thing as Alexander Gianturco and resign then he needs to be pushed out. Eve Online now needs to send a message that certain kinds of out of game harrassment and cyber bullying need to be stamped out. He didn't use his position either. It was the alliance panel. The CSM panel he handled himself well. And yet media is reporting this as "CSM chair calls to harrass eve player into suicide." The reality is he has a huge media reputation from his role as CSM chair and its absolutely silly to suggest otherwise. If he was just some random drunken alliance leader calling on somebody to be harrassed into suicide he should still be punished but it wouldn't be as embarrassing for eve online since he wouldn't be directly representing the player base (just his own unfortunate alliance members) The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
The F Word Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:22:00 - [3583] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: The sensible solution and decent one is for Alexander Gianturco to simply come out now and resign. And I still hope he does this rather than continuing to drag all our reputations through the mud while doing immense damage to CCP's visibility in the gaming (and soon to be) mainstream media. That's just not going to happen. It requires no small amount of effort both in and out of game to achieve what he has done - and it is an achievement he is extremely proud of. He's simply not going to give it up willingly despite (or in spite of) what he tweeted.
Rolf Wesselius Seraph Innovations 0	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:23:00 - [3584] - Quote Yeep wrote: Rolf Wesselius wrote: I dont care about his resignation im talking about the stuff in eve that can be seen as cyber bullying as a whole this just brought it up. Remember if Sony even feels like it they can kill dust 514 and demand all the development money they invested back from CCP. Even if this is small they can see not acting against this as not giving a damn about cyber bullying and kill dust 514. Im just saying.You look like the smartest goon around so just think about it if this debacle even slightly offends Sony Dust 514 is ******. Its a little insulting to the intelligence of both CCP and Sony to suggest that they don't both already know what kind of game Eve is. Entering into a business agreement with a company where you have to hope they don't do any research into your primary product is a terrible idea. Do you honestly think that this which could blow up into a cyberbullying case honestly will not tarnish eve's reputation.
evereplicant Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 68	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:23:00 - [3585] - Quote Wow 176 pages is this the longest threadnaught in eves history? So what is the conclusion? When is CCP going to officially say anything more about Alex (im sayiong Alex as in the person rather than Mittani the character, becuase we are dealing with a real person here) Is there actually going to be a decision on resigning or not?
Temulkar Blaine Liberation Army BricK sQuAD. 36	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:23:00 - [3586] - Quote Karim alRashid wrote: Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim alRashid wrote: Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim your posting clearly shows that you havent understood the serious nature of this issue and you dont even have the vaguest empathy for someone being harrassed. I pity you. You will have hard time convincing me that blowing up internet spaceships constitutes a harassment. Duh we all blow up internet spaceships thats a game. What we dont all do is incite other to harrass sombody so the kill themselves, on a public forum with a live stream on the internet. You see the difference or is basic comprehension of the facts too difficult for you? Why don't you first settle on a single version and then we'll talk? Does someone harassed someone else or someone allegedly incited a third party to harass someone else? You seem to be making both claims, as evident from you first saying "someone being harassed" and then saying "incite other to harass somebody". Are you really so simple that you dont understand people can be tried under multiple charges and sentenced for them in one case? The racial element was only part of the case. The use of twitter was another. Come on its not that difficult a concept to understand.
Ryunosuke Kusanagi 28	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:24:00 - [3587] - Quote Questions. Why the hell does it matter to all of you at this point. BOTH SIDES have said their piece. Mittani Offered up an apology and he is STILL being skull raped by it. The WIS was on Big Country's show yesterday/Last night on EVE radio and gave his two bits. I would actually contend that at THIS Point in time, You all are hellworthy guilty of doing EXACTLY THE SAME F*ING THING Alex did. That being Cyberbullying someone into doing something. Anyone who disagrees with me can kindly STFU. Any of you calling for any punishment towards Alex is wrong, You are vilifying Mittani, and through him his player. Yes Mittani is an ass, and a fuckwit, that is Mittani, do you expect anything else? Alex offered up an apology because he had a lapse in judgement while drinking, SHOCK, PEOPLE DO STUPID ** WHILE DRINKING! maybe we should make drinking while playing EVE a bannable offence and a violation of TOS? It is not your decision on what punishment Alex may or may not receive, it is up to CCP on what to do about this. That. Is. All.
TheButcherPete Titan Inc. Apocalyptic Legion. 110	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:25:00 - [3588] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: TheButcherPete wrote: Mittens resigning from the CSM CHANGES NOTHING. Don't resign Mittani! So you would like him ban hammered? Thats a bit harsh don't you think or are you suggesting CCP makes real life threats acceptable or is it that as the CSM chairman you believe he should be able to do what ever he wants without consequences? I don't think he should be banned either. This is EVE, a merciless, harsh universe with zero compassion. HTFU. My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
Temulkar Blaine Liberation Army BricK sQuAD. 36	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:28:00 - [3589] - Quote Orkasm wrote: You idiots claiming that mittani should be permabanned need to read the ToS / EULA NOTHING WAS DONE IN EVE ONLINE, THUS IT IS NOT COVERED BY THE EULA / ToS WI used to be a cool Alliance what happened? just a pet corp posting for their fuhrer now, its so sad.
Krutoj xSPECNAZx 146	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:30:00 - [3590] - Quote This publicity is soo awesome
ExhumeToConsume GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 67	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:30:00 - [3591] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: There was also a recent case of someone in the UK going to jail after posting offensive comments on a dead girl's Facebook tribute. No racism was involved in this case. So we've got one case of inciting racial hatred so far and now apparently multiple cases where the Larping one used YouTube, Twitter and Facebook in a sustained campaign against multiple targets. I hope he gets the chair.
Orkasm Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 90	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:30:00 - [3592] - Quote Temulkar Blaine wrote: Orkasm wrote: You idiots claiming that mittani should be permabanned need to read the ToS / EULA NOTHING WAS DONE IN EVE ONLINE, THUS IT IS NOT COVERED BY THE EULA / ToS WI used to be a cool Alliance what happened? just a pet corp posting for their fuhrer now, its so sad. WI was never a cool alliance, dont lie <3
ExhumeToConsume GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 67	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:32:00 - [3593] - Quote Temulkar Blaine wrote: Orkasm wrote: You idiots claiming that mittani should be permabanned need to read the ToS / EULA NOTHING WAS DONE IN EVE ONLINE, THUS IT IS NOT COVERED BY THE EULA / ToS WI used to be a cool Alliance what happened? just a pet corp posting for their fuhrer now, its so sad. I agree, kick WI(dot)
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1606	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:33:00 - [3594] - Quote Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote: Questions. Why the hell does it matter to all of you at this point. I'll tell you one reason. In 2008 I was CSM chair and got filmed in the role at fanfest and quoted in the position in newspapers from London, New York, Paris, Amsterdam, Iceland etc. I got interviewed by the BBC and its still on record. The following year I did a contract interview where this stuff was discovered by a background checking agency that linked my newspaper appearences to my panel as Jade Constantine the space anarchist terrorist doing an alliance panel presentation. They asked me what it was all about. I explained Eve Online to them and being the world's first elected spaceship politican. They thought it was pretty cool and I got the contract. This year somebody checks my background and cross references with EVE CSM and they are going to see a drunken fratboy slurring out inducements to harrassment and urging gamers to get someone to commit suicide on youtube. And thats precisely what I mean about bringing the game into disrepute. Whether CCP come out of this well or extremely badly is going to depend on how Alexander Gianturco is punished and whether he jumps or is pushed out of the CSM chair. Here's the reality for people. Once you step out behind that computer console and get up on stage in front of the media there are consequences for your action and behaviour and I would have thought Gianturco would have understood that with his legal background at least. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
The F Word Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:33:00 - [3595] - Quote See... I don't have a horse in this race, but it's things like this are going to elicit an anti-goon sentiment: Quote: 92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, While I have the spaceship council work on their pleas for my resignation pledge retraction I need my "lolapology thread" locked or otherwise removed from front page. Till further notice spam Roadhouse references until publord scum rage out and burn the thread. * This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored *
Karim alRashid Aliastra Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:34:00 - [3596] - Quote Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim alRashid wrote: Temulkar Blaine wrote: Karim alRashid wrote: You will have hard time convincing me that blowing up internet spaceships constitutes a harassment. Duh we all blow up internet spaceships thats a game. What we dont all do is incite other to harrass sombody so the kill themselves, on a public forum with a live stream on the internet. You see the difference or is basic comprehension of the facts too difficult for you? Why don't you first settle on a single version and then we'll talk? Does someone harassed someone else or someone allegedly incited a third party to harass someone else? You seem to be making both claims, as evident from you first saying "someone being harassed" and then saying "incite other to harass somebody". Are you really so simple that you dont understand people can be tried under multiple charges and sentenced for them in one case? The racial element was only part of the case. The use of twitter was another. Come on its not that difficult a concept to understand. You seem to be reading your script without paying much attention to what you are replying to. It's me asking you about your opinion what has happened - harassment, incite to harassment, both or something else - and you're answering "people can be tried under multiple charges and sentenced for them in one case". I suggest you improve you communication and logical reasoning skills, because they are severely lacking.
GallowsCalibrator GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:38:00 - [3597] - Quote The F Word wrote: See... I don't have a horse in this race, but it's things like this are going to elicit an anti-goon sentiment: Quote: 92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, While I have the spaceship council work on their pleas for my resignation pledge retraction I need my "lolapology thread" locked or otherwise removed from front page. Till further notice spam Roadhouse references until publord scum rage out and burn the thread. * This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored * This is a fake. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1022709#post1022709 (PS Jade you should probably edit the post to mention that.)
Bob McGenericname Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 9	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:38:00 - [3598] - Quote The F Word wrote: See... I don't have a horse in this race, but it's things like this are going to elicit an anti-goon sentiment: Quote: 92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, While I have the spaceship council work on their pleas for my resignation pledge retraction I need my "lolapology thread" locked or otherwise removed from front page. Till further notice spam Roadhouse references until publord scum rage out and burn the thread. * This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored * How is it that people are still reading the fake jabber broadcast, skipping over the part where it was posted at 92:46 AM, not bothering to check to see if anyone has claimed it's a fake (it totally is, Jade made it) and still posting it like they're providing content idgi
Doctor Eezee GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 104	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:38:00 - [3599] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote: Questions. Why the hell does it matter to all of you at this point. I'll tell you one reason. In 2008 I was CSM chair and got filmed in the role at fanfest and quoted in the position in newspapers from London, New York, Paris, Amsterdam, Iceland etc. I got interviewed by the BBC and its still on record. The following year I did a contract interview where this stuff was discovered by a background checking agency that linked my newspaper appearences to my panel as Jade Constantine the space anarchist terrorist doing an alliance panel presentation. They asked me what it was all about. I explained Eve Online to them and being the world's first elected spaceship politican. They thought it was pretty cool and I got the contract. This year somebody checks my background and cross references with EVE CSM and they are going to see a drunken fratboy slurring out inducements to harrassment and urging gamers to get someone to commit suicide on youtube. And thats precisely what I mean about bringing the game into disrepute. Whether CCP come out of this well or extremely badly is going to depend on how Alexander Gianturco is punished and whether he jumps or is pushed out of the CSM chair. Here's the reality for people. Once you step out behind that computer console and get up on stage in front of the media there are consequences for your action and behaviour and I would have thought Gianturco would have understood that with his legal background at least. Maybe you should have told your employers that you were a useless **** while being on the CSM, they would have liked you even more. "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 1607	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:39:00 - [3600] - Quote Orkasm wrote: You idiots claiming that mittani should be permabanned need to read the ToS / EULA NOTHING WAS DONE IN EVE ONLINE, THUS IT IS NOT COVERED BY THE EULA / ToS you know something else thats in the tos and eula. They can boot you out any time they feel like it: Quote: CCP reserves the right to close, temporarily or permanently, any userGÇÖs account without advance notice as we deem necessary. Furthermore, we reserve the right to delete all user accounts or inventory of characters as warranted. We reserve the right to ban any user from the game without refund or compensation. Thats the catch all for removing anyone they want regardless of barrackroom laywers trying to slide between the spaces. Bottom line. CCP can delete his accounts and IP ban him any time they like and there is no legal comeback. Just like any other player. The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!

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