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Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.03.30 13:35:00 -
[4621] - Quote
Drama aside, do you truly believe a perma banning of one person in Goonswarm will stop the rest? |

Zoo Ologist
United Evian Peace Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 13:50:00 -
[4622] - Quote
Everyone makes jokes, a lot of people make jokes at the expense of others, some even joke about suicide.
Most adults drink alcohol sometimes, a lot of adults get drunk sometimes, a lot of adults get drunk in public, not many (respected) elected representative get drunk in public.
I don't know, offhand, of any elected representative who has gotten drunk in public and proceeded to make jokes about someone commiting suicide (I am sure if you trawl you can find some).
In my opinion it says quite a bit about someone that they are willing to make such heinous suggestions about someone, especially when that person has expressed their possible vulnerabilities to a poor emotional state. Regardless of the person's reaction the comment was unacceptable, as CCP have shown by imposing a ban.
Alex Gianturco has made a greivous error, he admits that much himself and he as a player has been punished by not being allowed to play Eve Online with that account for 30 days. The Mittani was also on that stage and was making those comments as an aspect of Alex Gianturco, is The Mittani representing his constituents when he holds such contempt for at least one of them that he would joke about their death?
This is my first post, I felt so strongly on reading about what Alex/Mittens said that I had to put forward my two cents. Please think before voting in the future. |

Iszi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:24:00 -
[4623] - Quote
Oh please.
You're all arguin about what some guy said about some other guy on tv.
What a bunch of drama llamas you are.
I'll laugh if this game gets watered down and catered to the masses of internet crybabies who can't handle a sandbox game. |

Daylen Drazzi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:42:00 -
[4624] - Quote
Zoo Ologist, your violation of the Eve Online Terms of Service requires that I petition for your account to be banned. I expect CCP to take firm measures to protect The Mittani's personal information and make examples of every individual who violates the Terms of Service, regardless of intent.
"19. You may not communicate, post or publicize any subscriberGÇÖs personal information within the EVE Online game world or website."
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T0R1 BL4CK
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:43:00 -
[4625] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:Drama aside, do you truly believe a perma banning of one person in Goonswarm will stop the rest?
that is irrelevant. dead penalty or any other kind of punishment didn't stop murder, right? shall we now stop criminal investigation and punishment of murder? ofc not.
it is about encouraging people to be dicks in public. making fun of somebody in your own closed group is one thing, preparing a public presentation and stepping over a line is something totally different. 30 days temp ban can only be a joke. |

RogueMind
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:43:00 -
[4626] - Quote
Daylen Drazzi wrote:Zoo Ologist, your violation of the Eve Online Terms of Service requires that I petition for your account to be banned. I expect CCP to take firm measures to protect The Mittani's personal information and make examples of every individual who violates the Terms of Service, regardless of intent.
"19. You may not communicate, post or publicize any subscriberGÇÖs personal information within the EVE Online game world or website."
Damnit beat me to it. |

RogueMind
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:45:00 -
[4627] - Quote
T0R1 BL4CK wrote: that is irrelevant. dead penalty or any other kind of punishment didn't stop murder, right? shall we now stop criminal investigation and punishment of murder? ofc not. it is about encouraging people to be dicks in public. making fun of somebody in your own closed group is one thing, preparing a public presentation and stepping over a line is something totally different. 30 days temp ban can only be a joke.
and repeatedly rezzing a thread that started as a legitimate apology and has morphed into a character assassination as well as repeated violations of TOS by revealing his personal information which has lead to threats against him and his family is equally justified? |

Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH SpaceMonkey's Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:45:00 -
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YOU! Yes You! Pick that stone up. Since you never made a mistake in life! Your all are a bunch of self righteous pricks with your own personal agendas.
Were all humans making mistakes and learning as we go along, doesnGÇÖt matter where you find yourself in the food chain. I never was a Goons or Mittani fan until I got to know them up close and personal. If there is one thing I know, It is that Alex is a good kid and the Mitanni a bastard ,who in every sense earned my respect. He has done way more good for Eve and its player base than this one isolated incident. Yea he fuc*ed up and apologized sincerely, I bet my reputation on it.
Both the miner guy and Mittani are sons of Eve.! Now is the time for CCP and the player base to step up and support them. Resign not an option , why because hes one of our best ! I 07 Mittens ! YouGÇÖre one hell of a Eve player and a guy with a good heart. Now go and do your freeken JOB!
The rest of you GÇ£name sayersGÇ¥ go look in the mirror ..cause thatGÇÖs the root of your reflection GǪand grow a pair of bawls! |

Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
61
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:45:00 -
[4629] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:Drama aside, do you truly believe a perma banning of one person in Goonswarm will stop the rest?
no .. why would we
you guys are good sport beside the skacktalk What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things Its because WE LOVE YOU |

T0R1 BL4CK
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:47:00 -
[4630] - Quote
Daylen Drazzi wrote:Zoo Ologist, your violation of the Eve Online Terms of Service requires that I petition for your account to be banned. I expect CCP to take firm measures to protect The Mittani's personal information and make examples of every individual who violates the Terms of Service, regardless of intent.
"19. You may not communicate, post or publicize any subscriberGÇÖs personal information within the EVE Online game world or website."
seriously? then check this: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Members_of_the_sixth_CSM |
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T0R1 BL4CK
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:49:00 -
[4631] - Quote
RogueMind wrote:T0R1 BL4CK wrote: that is irrelevant. dead penalty or any other kind of punishment didn't stop murder, right? shall we now stop criminal investigation and punishment of murder? ofc not. it is about encouraging people to be dicks in public. making fun of somebody in your own closed group is one thing, preparing a public presentation and stepping over a line is something totally different. 30 days temp ban can only be a joke.
and repeatedly rezzing a thread that started as a legitimate apology and has morphed into a character assassination as well as repeated violations of TOS by revealing his personal information which has lead to threats against him and his family is equally justified?
nice try!
mittani should have considered his name become public knowledge BEFORE he decided to candidate for CSM. |

Sir John Halsey
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:50:00 -
[4632] - Quote
Aryndel Samson wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Yup after seeing the Response of the Goons and Alts and pets.
Ban Alex from the game is the minimum now.
From just step down from CSM to Ban.
They should ban you for spelling Rogue wrong in your name you uneducated mongoloid.
Haha... this is funny :)
1. His name ... Rouge = Red in French 2. I smell racism in your comment ... some might take that as an affront and get you banned for 30 days ..
Just saying ... |

Sir John Halsey
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:50:00 -
[4633] - Quote
... |

SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
395
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:51:00 -
[4634] - Quote
Why is this thread still going on, seriously. Why.
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My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
58
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:52:00 -
[4635] - Quote
This thread makes me want to call my crazy ex-girlfriend and ask her if I can borrow some of her razor blades.... ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:53:00 -
[4636] - Quote
Lt Pizi wrote:Basileus Volkan wrote:Drama aside, do you truly believe a perma banning of one person in Goonswarm will stop the rest? no .. why would we you guys are good sport beside the skacktalk
A lot of people seem to be under the impression the ban has somehow weakened us. Which is of course a silly idea. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
120
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:57:00 -
[4637] - Quote
This thread and the piles like it just need to be let die. Enough is Enough. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
61
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:02:00 -
[4638] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:Lt Pizi wrote:Basileus Volkan wrote:Drama aside, do you truly believe a perma banning of one person in Goonswarm will stop the rest? no .. why would we you guys are good sport beside the skacktalk A lot of people seem to be under the impression that the ban has somehow weakened us. Which is of course a silly idea.
well on the other hand if he decides to cash in and move on like some of your former leaders you will be a bit weaker for sure
not saying hes that type What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things Its because WE LOVE YOU |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
53
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:07:00 -
[4639] - Quote
SMT008 wrote:Why is this thread still going on, seriously. Why.
agreed,, we need a mod to lock this off topic, rant filled, shite talking spam thread.
lock please 
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rouf rouf53
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:20:00 -
[4640] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:... I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain... ... But I am not that character in real life...
No. It does not work that way.
You can't be a cyber bully when in real life you are a caring personality, sharing and helpful to strangers. (perhaps in disorder situations only).
Most probably, when you are cyber bullying, in real life you are either: - a bully, or - a failed bully, meaning that you'd like to bully other people but are bullied instead.
I think that's what happens, you're so much bullied in real life that you take revenge on bullying to strangers in video games to satisfy your hurt ego.
I don't know much about your alliance history, but I think it indicates the same conclusion.
Anyways, CSM should be against bullying anyways. It's supposed to protect the helpless, not support the strong.
And of course, this is not an alt you'll find in game. Bullys like taking revenge against isolated, easy targets, when they can't hurt those that they think that did them wrong. |
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
251
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:22:00 -
[4641] - Quote
The Mittani is a douch... Who knew?!
Lets move on |

Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
146
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:42:00 -
[4642] - Quote
This is a political witch hunt in my opinion.
So many people acting like they 'care' about the 'victim' in this charade just to use this to further their own agenda's, beliefs, dis-contempt for................ (Goons, Mittani, Titan/Supercap nerfing, whatever other agenda you may have against the CSM Chair) <--Fill above space as appropriate.
Bottom line is in the video Mittens was not representing himself as the CSM nor as his own real life personna. He was representing his in-game persona. That persona is clear to anyone that understands the goons philosophy.
Did he cross a line?
Yes he did. But in all honesty so did most of the previous speakers at that forum in some form or another. Also heavy drinking and crossing the line go hand in hand.
Bring a bunch of people to a stage, have cameras rolling, allow heavy drinking of speakers while they speak publicly. What could possibly go wrong?
A good portion of the EVE community glorifies 'tears' or other peoples rage/sadness reactions to in game actions. It was only a matter of time before someone crossed the line the be part of that 'cool kid' club.
Many people have/had an agenda in seeing Mittens leave the CSM. This is a fact. But to these people I say to use some other persons real life mental state (the Mackinaw pilot) as ammunition and a way to further your agenda (seeing The Mittani removed from CSM) in my opinion makes you just as guilty as the person that crossed the line during the forum. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
120
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:45:00 -
[4643] - Quote
Move along nothing to see here. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
66
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:45:00 -
[4644] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:This is a political witch hunt in my opinion.
So many people acting like they 'care' about the 'victim' in this charade just to use this to further their own agenda's, beliefs, dis-contempt for................ (Goons, Mittani, Titan/Supercap nerfing, whatever other agenda you may have against the CSM Chair) <--Fill above space as appropriate.
Bottom line is in the video Mittens was not representing himself as the CSM nor as his own real life personna. He was representing his in-game persona. That persona is clear to anyone that understands the goons philosophy.
Did he cross a line?
Yes he did. But in all honesty so did most of the previous speakers at that forum in some form or another. Also heavy drinking and crossing the line go hand in hand.
Bring a bunch of people to a stage, have cameras rolling, allow heavy drinking of speakers while they speak publicly. What could possibly go wrong?
A good portion of the EVE community glorifies 'tears' or other peoples rage/sadness reactions to in game actions. It was only a matter of time before someone crossed the line the be part of that 'cool kid' club.
Many people have/had an agenda in seeing Mittens leave the CSM. This is a fact. But to these people I say to use some other persons real life mental state (the Mackinaw pilot) as ammunition and a way to further your agenda (seeing The Mittani removed from CSM) in my opinion makes you just as guilty as the person that crossed the line during the forum.
This entire situation is a witch hunt. It has been since day 1. Everyone who didnt vote for mittens got mad he won, and he mistakenly gave them a reason to complain. And what he did was big enough and public enough that they had enough leverage to cause a huge stink about it, and they did. Effectively conquering the CSM. It was actually a pretty tactful power play. Although I disagree with it, it was cunning. They are allowed to do this, because this is EVE.
Thus is the sandbox we all pay to be a part of. I'll be burning Jita with the best of them.
...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |

Abim Starkiller
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:49:00 -
[4645] - Quote
It was premeditated. You can not blame being drunk, You had power points and everything. You need to be perma band. |

My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
66
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:52:00 -
[4646] - Quote
Abim Starkiller wrote:It was premeditated. You can not blame being drunk, You had power points and everything. You need to be perma band.
You do know that the annual Alliance Panel HAS ALWAYS been a bunch of drunk alliance leaders shitting on each other for lulz right? Go watch the ones from years past. The beloved DARIUS used to do some of the hardest trolling at the panel...Nothing new happened here except for mittens taking it a bit over the top with personal IRL attacks.
The premeditated shitting-on-others has ALWAYS and will ALWAYS be a part, and sort of the main purpose, of the Alliance Panel. ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |

Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
61
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:57:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:This is a political witch hunt in my opinion.
Did he cross a line?
Yes he did.
you should read up witch hunt and evaluate your opinion What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things Its because WE LOVE YOU |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
633
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:08:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:This is a political witch hunt in my opinion.
So many people acting like they 'care' about the 'victim' in this charade just to use this to further their own agenda's, beliefs, dis-contempt for................ (Goons, Mittani, Titan/Supercap nerfing, whatever other agenda you may have against the CSM Chair) <--Fill above space as appropriate.
Bottom line is in the video Mittens was not representing himself as the CSM nor as his own real life personna. He was representing his in-game persona. That persona is clear to anyone that understands the goons philosophy.
Did he cross a line?
Yes he did. But in all honesty so did most of the previous speakers at that forum in some form or another. Also heavy drinking and crossing the line go hand in hand.
Bring a bunch of people to a stage, have cameras rolling, allow heavy drinking of speakers while they speak publicly. What could possibly go wrong?
A good portion of the EVE community glorifies 'tears' or other peoples rage/sadness reactions to in game actions. It was only a matter of time before someone crossed the line the be part of that 'cool kid' club.
Many people have/had an agenda in seeing Mittens leave the CSM. This is a fact. But to these people I say to use some other persons real life mental state (the Mackinaw pilot) as ammunition and a way to further your agenda (seeing The Mittani removed from CSM) in my opinion makes you just as guilty as the person that crossed the line during the forum. This entire situation is a witch hunt. It has been since day 1. Everyone who didnt vote for mittens got mad he won, and he mistakenly gave them a reason to complain. And what he did was big enough and public enough that they had enough leverage to cause a huge stink about it, and they did. Effectively conquering the CSM. It was actually a pretty tactful power play. Although I disagree with it, it was cunning. They are allowed to do this, because this is EVE. Thus is the sandbox we all pay to be a part of. I'll be burning Jita with the best of them.
Keep misusing the term witch hunt. Maybe someone will believe you eventually. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:13:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:Man there are alot of hypocrits, well you know what, I was there as well and I am just as guilty then for laughing as the rest of the people present who did. And do you know why they did it? Because, and I know this is surprising to you all, it wasnt about cyberbulling, it was about Eve Online,Sandbox, Virtual World and the CEOs whose alliances dwell in it, however twisted and awesome they are. And of players who choose to be a prey or become a hunter.
Dont make me /wrists from all this awefull posting. Btw time for lunch
Krutoj's posts in this thread offend me just about as much as the event that sparked this, can we get this moron censured as well? |

Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
146
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:14:00 -
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Lt Pizi wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:This is a political witch hunt in my opinion.
Did he cross a line?
Yes he did. you should read up witch hunt and evaluate your opinion
OK let me rephrase it. He crossed the line as Mittens the in game Goon. Got Banned for it. When did this turn into him needing to leave the CSM?
^^See what I did there?
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