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Bylok	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:24:00 - [1] Cloaking currently is great for griefers. There should be a limit on the time duration. Use current game mechanics to limit the time cap use or soemthing. I can see a claok duration of say a hour or two but unlimited cloaking is dumb and only usefull to griefers when its for that duration. There should be a counter skill perhaps let skilled probers at least have a chance at findign a cloaked ship. Either a counter skill or a limit for the duration/frequency of cloak I feel is needed
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:25:00 - [2] Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:25:00 - [3] Originally by: Bylok Cloaking currently is great for griefers. There should be a limit on the time duration. Use current game mechanics to limit the time cap use or soemthing. I can see a claok duration of say a hour or two but unlimited cloaking is dumb and only usefull to griefers when its for that duration. There should be a counter skill perhaps let skilled probers at least have a chance at findign a cloaked ship. Either a counter skill or a limit for the duration/frequency of cloak I feel is needed How about, no? The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch..
MyOwnSling Gallente RONA Corporation RONA Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:26:00 - [4] How do I grief you if you can't see me ------------- Stop whining. Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:27:00 - [5] Trinity Corporate Services
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:27:00 - [6] Originally by: MyOwnSling How do I grief you if you can't see me Maybe if your Avatar is too ugly? The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch..
MyOwnSling Gallente RONA Corporation RONA Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:28:00 - [7] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Originally by: MyOwnSling How do I grief you if you can't see me Maybe if your Avatar is too ugly? Oh. K, nerf ------------- Stop whining. Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:29:00 - [8] Features and Ideas forum is the best place for this topic. That being said I can not, with the little experiance I have, say that I disagree with the concept of a skill that would allow for probing of cloak device pulses or something of the such. But it is something that should be skill intensive and not easy to perform even with maxed skills. Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
InSession Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:35:00 - [9] Yeah, I'm sick of those Raven's who warp to safes and cloak. Now my probe alt is completely useless because everyone in a ratting BS fits a cloak these days. Nerf the cloaks! Although I think the OP is complaining about cloakers in his ratting system, not what I'm talking about
MidnightTrader	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:35:00 - [10] ITT dumb ideas.

baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:35:00 - [11]
StealthGerbils	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:39:00 - [12] Why not add probes to detect cloaked players.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War Exalted.	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Bylok Cloaking currently is great for griefers. There should be a limit on the time duration. Use current game mechanics to limit the time cap use or soemthing. I can see a claok duration of say a hour or two but unlimited cloaking is dumb and only usefull to griefers when its for that duration. There should be a counter skill perhaps let skilled probers at least have a chance at findign a cloaked ship. Either a counter skill or a limit for the duration/frequency of cloak I feel is needed YOU are out of hand!
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:42:00 - [14] Edited by: Haradgrim on 16/10/2008 21:42:06 Originally by: baltec1 This. Learn to deal people; stay aligned, pay attention, fit your own cloak. All the counters are there if you want them.... As for people trying to probe cloakers.... if you aren't succeeding; your doing it wrong. Not to mention if there were no counter to being probed....well.... -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:44:00 - [15] Edited by: DubanFP on 16/10/2008 21:45:48 Would you say the Op is a "Waz dis?" or would stick with calling him an "Ooon' Fair"? _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't mater to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:46:00 - [16] eve forums: trolls trolling trolls about being trolled. -- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Ashla Chifis	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:47:00 - [17] Im out of hand? Great come back so smart. Fact is there should be no skill that does not have a counter skill. Oh and how do you grief if your cloaked easy, if in 0.0 stay cloaked and just act as a spy for reds in the area. When done for days and days straight its for sure a grief tactic not game play.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Ashla Chifis Edited by: Ashla Chifis on 16/10/2008 21:50:05 Edited by: Ashla Chifis on 16/10/2008 21:47:29 Your out of hand? Great come back so smart. Fact is there should be no skill that does not have a counter skill. Oh and how do you grief if your cloaked, easy (if in 0.0 stay cloaked) and just act as a spy for reds in the area. When done for days and days straight its for sure a grief tactic not game play. This is why I love my bomber. Im only the size of a frigate but I can lock down a system for hours at a time even if I dont kill anything!
Bazman Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:53:00 - [19] God damn those Ghost ships -----
whisk Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:57:00 - [20] you had something in your hand and it got out? so you used the now free hand to make this stupid thread? put your hand back in there so we dont see more of this crap Adapt or Die

xhardxcorex	Posted - 2008.10.16 21:57:00 - [21] Originally by: MyOwnSling How do I grief you if you can't see me By sitting in system, mostly AFK, for days on end in a cloaked ship. Its psychological warfare without any sort of equal counter. A cloaked command ship can effectively shutdown mining, logistic and ratting operations in a system for an indefinite period so long as a few basic principles of patience and caution are adhered to. The problem with this is that there's no counter. The cloaked ship can sit AFK for an indefinite period of time. It guerrilla warfare but with no native population to crack down on. Instead the opposition just disappears into thin air. Instead of the guerrilla being hard to find, it's completely impossible. Instead of it being challenging for the guerrilla to stay hidden, its stupidly easy. Just get up and walk away from the computer, leaving the game on. The tactic should remain in game. Logistic harassment is sound and viable strategy. It shouldn't be indefinitely un-counterable. Especially not when it involves sitting AFK in game for 20 hours a day.
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:01:00 - [22] Originally by: Bazman God damn those Ghost ships I see what you did there... Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:04:00 - [23] Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 16/10/2008 22:06:05 Cloaked guy in system = one guy, in a tech2 cruiser, which can easily be ganked for the 5 guys in local who's he's frightening. the worst he can do is watch you and grab you just as a gang is one or two jumps out, and in that case, you'll have seen them coming in your intel channels and have ran away (that's if you were paying attention, or are smart enough to have scouts posted about watching for enemy movements (after all, he took the time to sit in system scouting yous, so you can take the time to have scouts watching for his friends)). He's not gunna AFK a lone guy (afkers camp station systems, and only idiots rat in station systems (higher than average local count; attracts roaming gangs and harder to see people enter local)), because you can just use another system, and if he follows HE'S NOT **ING AFK IS HE? Seriously, it's a cloaked cruiser, grow some balls, set a trap for him, get your mates ready to warp to you and start ratting in some belts and gank the bastard. jesus you guys are weak. --------- I JUST FOUND THE GAME!**
Bylok	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:10:00 - [24] Its not that one guy that does the fighting. Its as the previous post stated. Its just a guy sitting AFK 90% of the time feeding intel to other reds in system. As far as growing balls and getting him thats my point there is no way to get someone cloaked for 3 days how about learn how to read. I do not see how this can possibly as it stands add any value to the game buf for griefers.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:10:00 - [25] the op made the mistake with in 7 word in his first poast greifers... there isnt such a thing in eve as another Desu sig tells The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ
Malcanis RuffRyders	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Bylok Edited by: Bylok on 16/10/2008 21:48:51 Cloaking currently is great for griefers. There should be a limit on the time duration. Use current game mechanics to limit the time cap use or something. I can see a cloak duration of say a hour or two but unlimited cloaking is dumb and only usefull to griefers when its for that long of a duration. There should be a counter skill perhaps let skilled probers at least have a chance at finding a cloaked ship. Either a counter skill or a limit for the duration/frequency of cloak I feel is needed 2007 logged in. It wants it's cloak whine back.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Malcanis 2007 logged in. It wants it's cloak whine back. when new expansion comes into TQ you deserve a medal for that!!!!! The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ
Gonada Priory Of The Lemon	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:26:00 - [28] cloaking does indeed need a counter. those that say its fine are crazy, plain and simple. not the least is the intell gathering methods used by alliances in regars to this. having countless alts, trial accounts strewn across 0.0 or in empire gathering enemy movements without recourse is silly at best. Please, jump into traffic
Malcanis RuffRyders	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:28:00 - [29] Originally by: Gonada cloaking does indeed need a counter. those that say its fine are crazy, plain and simple. not the least is the intell gathering methods used by alliances in regars to this. having countless alts, trial acc null ounts strewn across 0.0 or in empire gathering enemy movements without recourse is silly at best. OK let's make it so that cloaked ships move at -75% speed, and can't target or activate modules, and can't lock until 15-30 seconds after uncloaking.
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.16 22:31:00 - [30] Originally by: Malcanis OK let's make it so that cloaked ships move at -75% speed, and can't target or activate modules, and can't lock until 15-30 seconds after uncloaking. Sounds a bit weak... Lets keep them from warping out too and it should be fair. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't mater to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"



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