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DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:01:00 -
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Excellent changes! |
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
135
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:08:00 -
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Alec Freeman wrote:Hm. Wonder how long it is too 500m battleships and we all start fighting in T1 cruisers / frigs like the good old days. This would actually not be a bad thing. "Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."
"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka |
Katy Ling
Crimnson Concept Flame Flaming Nebula
6
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:10:00 -
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-10% on the pay out of vangs are not so bad but Assaults would still need a boost, maybe of 10% on the pay out.
the bigger dificulty from Assaults to vangs, isn't actually the site, but the need for more people to remain for the duration of the sites, managing 20 people instead of 10, gives +10 chances to have to stop for replace grid spots. especially with that assault Nation Consolidation Network, where you have a bunch of rooms and makes it take so long (and those sites spawn more often) it ends up being a terrible boredom task, compared with other sites.
Rogue Drones Bounty ... makes perfectly sense as they are a big threat to everyone in the game lore, and they had a bounty at some point (bounty of 0), but was removed ... but what will they drop ? someone suggested components for T2 drones ... it's interesting, but i don't think they should be the only way to get those components, after all, rogue drones are infected normal drones.
drones compound nerf ... rats loot nerf ... why isn't a solution to make shooting and looting npc's in to something fun and profitable, without colliding with mining, and still be at the level of other activity's ? consider droop loot of useful things, that players can be happy to find.
i remember watching a video of a free online RPG game where an adventurer would proceed on the field vanquishing NPC's and one dropped the axe and the adventurer catch the axe and equipped it, because it was a better gun. at that point, my first feeling was : "Me has to have Axe !" - then i realised i didn't even liked the game, to start with. - my point with this little example ? - it is very fun to loot useful things from npc's, that can improve you're combat performance (weapon / ammo / booster/ nanite paste)
yet, in eve, npc's tend to drop useless modules, that you only refine and remove some of the minerals needed
why some of those npc's don't drop some boosters that increase you're "damage" by +1% for 10 - 30 minutes, for example ? or something else useful ?
because, until now, i only noticed solutions that included nerfing the bountys and drops of npc's until it was no longer fun or profitable, to waste time shooting and looting npc's.
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Amaya Ishii
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:10:00 -
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Will the alloys be gone for good (i. e., no chance of drop whatsoever)? Will you remove all the alloys from the game when the Escalation patch rolls out? |
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
135
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:11:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:Chalk Inferno up as a failure, CCP will change too much too quickly. Unless... they add something that completely fixes the stuff they're about to **** over. Your tears. They are glorious. "Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."
"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka |
Paddlefoot Aeon
Montreal Irishmen
0
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:11:00 -
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I remember a time, quite a while ago, actually, before the drone regions existed.
I was a much younger pilot then, happy to have just qualified for a covetor, yet unable to afford the 550mil price tag for a hulk.
I was living in Dekline at the time, and my corp/alliance was using the Crokite in the area to help pay the bills. Zydrine was at 3400/unit, and once the corp took its 15% refining cut, anything you mined was yours.
I remember jumping into my brand new Helios, packing it full of Zydrine, and running it down to Jita. I made over $150 million per trip, which was big money back then.
The the drone regions came out, and the prices of Zydrine and Megacyte went into the toilet.
I fully support the drone region changes... just as fully as I DESPISED their initial addition. CCP destroyed the high-ends market years ago, and I'm glad to see they are fixing it now! |
fenistil
PVP CORP
2
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:11:00 -
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CCP Affinity,
What predictions do you think it will have on mineral prices? There are a lot of minerals coming from drone regions to empire. If drone regions will not supply the minerals any longer, and the demand stays the same, I guess it is safe to assume the mineral prices will increase? It would be an interesting thing to know what % of all minerals are being supplied by drone regions now. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
524
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:12:00 -
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Ancy Denaries wrote:Alec Freeman wrote:Hm. Wonder how long it is too 500m battleships and we all start fighting in T1 cruisers / frigs like the good old days. This would actually not be a bad thing.
In fact this is a GREAT boost to newbies.
CCP can go advertise around how even in their 9 years old MMO a new player can get up to competitive levels instead of being doomed to be grinded by grandpa aged pilots. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
64
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:13:00 -
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Dev Blog wrote:In 2011, CCP Bettik decided to make it his personal mission to fill in the gaps in deadspace content. In Crucible 1.5, released on 13th March 2012, he added 3 more deadspace sites, bringing us to a point where we now have all 1/10 to 10/10 pirate deadspace sites in game, bringing this project close to completion.
Emphasis mine. I have yet to see a Serpentis 6/10 complex, can you please confirm that they exist. |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
198
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:15:00 -
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Visreae wrote:Oh and thanks for not answering peoples question in the forums, I think its swell that you can start a thread and then ignore the conversation that arises, really.
Do you think in the future, before you make these changes, you could post your intentions and thoughts and get our feedback BEFORE you wreck an economy?
I'm getting around to the questions ;) patience...
and we did have forum threads, CSM feedback + fanfest feedback CCP Affinity | Team Five 0 |-á @CCP_Affinity |
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Jeicam Mmis
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
48
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:22:00 -
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will killing drones bump security status?
edit, nvm, answered on P4 ("no") |
Katy Ling
Crimnson Concept Flame Flaming Nebula
6
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:23:00 -
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Gizan wrote:CCP Affinity wrote:Blakslabeth wrote:So the summary is:
#1 More expensive ships #2 Less ability to make isk in incursions #3 If you live in the drone region your true sec now sucks.
Hard to get excited about 3 nerfs in one blog.
but.. think of the miners dude! They need love too <3 I recent news, all exhumers have been removed from the market because 99.95% if them have been suicide ganked because they SUCK at tanking anything including ships 1/10000th their cost.
good point ! it is ridiculous such a expensive ship can't tank s**t +1
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
101
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:23:00 -
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Does anybody else find it ironic that IRC will now hold the best space in the Drone Lands? "The best of the worst", as they say... "The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions."
THE MITTANI for CEO of CCP 1-800-273-8255 |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
36
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:24:00 -
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fenistil wrote:CCP Affinity,
What predictions do you think it will have on mineral prices? There are a lot of minerals coming from drone regions to empire. If drone regions will not supply the minerals any longer, and the demand stays the same, I guess it is safe to assume the mineral prices will increase? It would be an interesting thing to know what % of all minerals are being supplied by drone regions now. The beautiful thing about EvE is that as mineral prices riise, more people will start mining because they will notice those jucy buy orders that need filling. |
Kalestra Cable
Faust Industries
2
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:24:00 -
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Jeicam Mmis wrote:will killing drones bump security status?
nope
CCP Affinity wrote:Tsubutai wrote:Does this mean that killing rogue drones will also increase security status now? At the moment rogue drones function exactly as before - so no sec status increase, however, we might look into this at a later point.
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
261
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:24:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:
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Now we just need a cloak hunter ship to prevent people from ruining the industrial level of the systems by staying there cloaked until it reaches 0...
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THX CCP! You are doing a wonderful work!
Oh for ****'s sakes...This over-entitled whinging crap again...
No, you don't.
Team up and make the effort to secure your space to the point that the big, bad, scawwy cloakie knows he practically can't decloak without getting insta-popped. And if you refuse to do that, then you deserve to lose the benefits of your space. The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
97
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:26:00 -
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does this mean that the drones will drop no loot at all? Do the drones then give more isk then other pirates to make up for the lack of faction spawns and meta 4 drops? |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
620
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:28:00 -
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Hello CCP!
Three questions!
Easy "yes we are aware" / "no we are not aware" ones:
Quote:(...) bringing us to a point where we now have all 1/10 to 10/10 pirate deadspace sites in game, bringing this project close to completion. 1. Are you aware that no one in game has seen an Angel Cartel or Serpentis DED 6/10 site?
2. Are you guys aware that the new DED 3/10s have the same initial signal strength as the DED 4/10s? None of the other DED sites share signal strengths. (Example)
3. Are you guys aware that when you added deadspace Invulnerability fields, Angel Cartel became the only faction dropping cruiser A-type loot in highsec? |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
10
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:29:00 -
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Blakslabeth wrote:So the summary is:
#1 More expensive ships #2 Less ability to make isk in incursions #3 If you live in the drone region your true sec now sucks.
Hard to get excited about 3 nerfs in one blog.
LOL. It buffed the miners, I guess your not a miner and it is your turn to supply some tears. :) |
Einar Matveinen
nXo Intrepid Crossing
10
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:38:00 -
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Eva Volkova wrote:So drones will get bounties like any other npc but no tipe of loot?
Will you change anomalies / plexes for drone regoins?
Will drones have officer drops?
Will drones have haulers?
EvA
I think this is important, any clue for these questions?
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Visreae
Iskitution Philanderies Associated
2
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:41:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote:Visreae wrote:Oh and thanks for not answering peoples question in the forums, I think its swell that you can start a thread and then ignore the conversation that arises, really.
Do you think in the future, before you make these changes, you could post your intentions and thoughts and get our feedback BEFORE you wreck an economy?
I'm getting around to the questions ;) patience... and we did have forum threads, CSM feedback + fanfest feedback
Patience is waiting 8 years for a Missile turret. Asking question only to be ignored and ugly shoes thrown in my face is Sainthood. |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
11
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:42:00 -
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J'Rela wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Read this dev blog by CCP Affinity from Team Five 0 and learn everything you always wanted to know about 'carebearing 2.0' (but were afraid to ask)! tl;dr: CCP swings the nerfbat around like a blind drunk in a fog, removing everything unique and interesting about the Drone Regions in the process. Please, CCP, stop trying to alter player behavior. You can't change what you don't understand. I know we've never actually done the "Sandbox" and "Big and Uneven" things you always talk about. Could we maybe try those, instead of making everything more prescriptive and more like everything else with every new patch?
As a reformed miner I still love all these tears. |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
11
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:42:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:First you remove my alloys, risking the possibility of destroying our economy for a long period of time. Then you keep Mining so ******* boring that most people can only bear doing it by Botting. But then you crack down on bots. THEN, you **** up my trusec.
I've been very understanding of you, CCP, but this is a step too far. Thanks for destroying the value of my home.
lol |
Chris Wheeler
Massively Motivated
1
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:44:00 -
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I'm assuming that the alloys I currently have will remain as they are after this change and I won't have to run and log in quick to refine them before the patch rolls? |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
201
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:45:00 -
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DaDutchDude wrote:Interesting changes which are already shaping EVE mineral markets today.
So a couple of questions: 1) Will Rogue Drones start dropping normal loot? 2) Will Rogue Drones salvage be increased? It seems today their salvage is quite below par. 3) Will you look into Rogue Drone exploration sites and escalations? Currently, their value is very low (who really wants 'augmented' or 'Integrated' drones?) and could use some new modules / blue prints / etc to be as interesting as the pirate faction drops. 4) How long will it take for the insurance values to adjust to the change in mineral prices? Already, the mineral prices have shot up significantly, and I assume the market will take months after this (if not longer) to adjust to the new realities. It seems a bit unfair if the insurance value for T1 ships lags so far behind players don't get compensated for these drastic changes. 5) Your blog doesn't mention this, but there's also talk about eliminating all T1 module drops from all NPCs. Can you confirm? And does that mean less loot, or will the entire loot drop table be revised to replace T1 drops with meta modules, and thereby reducing the chance for meta 4 modules?
1. No - Commander groups have loot tables, regular deadspace rogue drones don't 2. at the moment we have no plans to do this - but who knows! 3. We will definitely look into this :) not confirming we will do anything about it right away but it's definitely on our list of things to investigate 4. Pretty impossible for me to answer that and I am definitely not the person to be doing so - would need to be someone from research and statistics 5. confirmed - they will be replaced with metal scraps CCP Affinity | Team Five 0 |-á @CCP_Affinity |
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
261
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:46:00 -
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Visreae wrote:
You do not have my permission to do this. Please consult with me in the future before you make more mistakes. Thank you.
To be clear drones will be worth even less than any other pirate, which they already were, in order to make mining look more attractive. Are you kidding me? No loot, and worst salvage, and you think "Hey drones are OP, lets nerf them for the miners!" Please stop huffing the dry erase markers.
I can haz ur stuffs? The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
261
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:48:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:First you remove my alloys, risking the possibility of destroying our economy for a long period of time. Then you keep Mining so ******* boring that most people can only bear doing it by Botting. But then you crack down on bots. THEN, you **** up my trusec.
I've been very understanding of you, CCP, but this is a step too far. Thanks for destroying the value of my home.
I love whinging from monocle-wearing chavs.
Ur stuffs, can I haz?
The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
201
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:48:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:Giving drones with bounties, but then no sec status increase doesn't make sense. ATM, Rogue Drones replicate themselves, thus CONCORD has no idea that they exist unless killing them sends a signal that the NPC has died, and that it had to exist in order to die. CONCORD acknowledges that the NPC died, awards bounty but no sec status increase? In order for BOUNTIES to work you must be WANTED by CONCORD. I'm really disappointed in the Devs that tackled the Drone Region problem.
As I stated before, at the moment they don't... but it's something we will be looking into CCP Affinity | Team Five 0 |-á @CCP_Affinity |
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BlindFury
Genbuku.
7
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:49:00 -
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So, once these changes are done, will there be any way in game to receive drone alloys? |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
12
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:49:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:TheButcherPete wrote:Chalk Inferno up as a failure, CCP will change too much too quickly. Unless... they add something that completely fixes the stuff they're about to **** over. This change was pointed by CSM in the last meeting, so it is the community voice that is supporting this changes. It was needed... I'm really sorry for you living in the drone region, now you will rat for isk, not for minerals, so you will buy minerals with isk, from the miners... and the game will be to you as it is for everyone else... so give them some love... the more miners there is the less isk you will need to pay for your minerals...
I love this concept as a reformed miner. Wanna-be PVPers (you know the ones that like to shoot stuff that can't shoot back the most) don't realize that now when they start killing miners, they are actually going to start pushing up the prices of minerals.
Now if industrialists could just get the ****** industrialists with the economical sense of Obama to stop building crap for less than you can buy the minerals required for it off the market. The "It didn't cost me nothing to mine it" is such an uneducated look at economy. Of course those are probably the same people that are willing to work for less than minimum wage. |
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