Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 .. 20 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 35 post(s) |
DoctorABC
Blob Job
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:38:00 -
[181] - Quote
Dear CCP Affinity,
Should drones will not drop alloys anymore and will not drop modules, why to change the ss of systems? How can drones affect the minerals' market if they will produce nothing that can be converted to minerals?
Did you ever consider the effect that ss decrease will have on planetary resources in dronregs?
Are there any plans to make changes to drone anomalies the way you changed other anomalies, to make not only 2 top, but some other relatively equal in terms of income? |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
40
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:38:00 -
[182] - Quote
gfldex wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:With the changes to rogue drones going in, we're already committing to a mineral supply "shock" in this patch, so we decided when planning this release to roll in the Meta 0 removal at the same time so we only have to go through this process once. I give this post a 10 on the Grey Scale of insanity. /me chuckles
Greyscale, More like Greenscale am I rite? |
|
CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
1135
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:40:00 -
[183] - Quote
EvilweaselFinance wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Neddy Fox wrote:Quote: he added 3 more deadspace sites, bringing us to a point where we now have all 1/10 to 10/10 pirate deadspace sites in game
Sansha 9/10 doesn't exist.. Looking into this one as well Let me save you some time: you consider the fleet staging points the 9/10 though they're not labeled as such. There are no labeled "9/10s" but the fleet staging point is guaranteed to escalate and drops a-type loot.
Correct on all points, this is working mostly as intended, good knowledge |
|
Einar Matveinen
nXo Intrepid Crossing
10
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:40:00 -
[184] - Quote
Great, we will have now half-rats. |
Andrea Griffin
238
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:41:00 -
[185] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:St Mio wrote:2. Are you guys aware that the new DED 3/10s have the same initial signal strength as the DED 4/10s? 2) The Sansha and Serpentis ones are actually correct, but the other three have the wrong values set. Good catch, I'll fix it as soon as I finish replying here Now THAT is service! GÖÑGÖÑGÖÑ Greyscale GÖÑGÖÑGÖÑ
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Lifelongnoob
The Motley Crew Reborn Tribal Dragons
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:42:00 -
[186] - Quote
with mineral prices set to increase supercap pilots will be very nervous about losing them... a good thing imo
200bil isk titan hull will become the norm |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:43:00 -
[187] - Quote
Einar Matveinen wrote: Great, we will have now half-rats.
halfrats for halfmen |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
15
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:43:00 -
[188] - Quote
Jas Dor wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Jas Dor wrote:Nerfing the drone regions is pushing inflation in minerals found in addition to Zyde, Mega and Morphite in drone poo. What are you going to do about the shortage/rampant inflation of minerals found in high sec rocks?
Please also keep in mind that at 300m for a hulk and assuming a suicide gank every 10 hours of mining, the floor price of veld is 30m. Plugging this formula into a spreadsheet =30000000/60/((1600/33.3)*1000), gives a minimum trit price of around 10.0 for break even.
Something needs to give. while we work hard, we have yet to reach that level of gankination Your alliance, probably not. I'd like to see some info on the average life expectancy of a non-bot player mining within a reasonable distance of a market hub is.
Not sure about average, but I ran a HS mining business under various corp flags since 2008. Just went to pvp and PVE a couple months ago. I had 8 accounts at one point and plexed them all continuously - unbotted. Minerals got to be so low priced that it wasn't worth the hassle and I went to ice for the last 12-18 months. Then that wasn't really worth it and I went to PVE/PVP. Now of course everything is rising! LOL Go figure.
I didn't mind mining at all really, would still enjoy it if it wasn't for the fact that you have to find systems that are virtually empty so you can notice when you're about to get ganked. Mining could be a relaxing source of income that I wouldn't mind doing again but I'd only do it again if I could spend time watching movies and reading at the same time. Since the ganking has gotten so frequent that isn't really an option. If you want to stay alive as a miner now days even in high sec you need to be watching local, running dscans and doing rapid research on people who jump in system.
The more they make it difficult to gank in HS the more people will not mind mining there. In low sec and null sec you can do things to stav off ganks but in hs you can't much fly a fleet and kill people as they come in to prevent them from killing you. The advantage is completely in the PVPers hands in HS since they come in knowing they are going to, and willing to die.
|
Nekopyat
Nee-Co
42
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:45:00 -
[189] - Quote
EvilweaselFinance wrote: my spider senses are tingling that all meta0 loot is being removed from npcs
my spider senses are mostly remembering it was already announced though they're not very impressive
*nod* I have heard people talking about it, but since I have not seen an announcement I am considering it rumor.
(never mind, someone posted a link to official features, so I have been a bit out of the loop) |
Atum
Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
30
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:45:00 -
[190] - Quote
CopyCatz wrote:- If you keep allowing hulkageddons and similar intimidation, mining will never get any more attractive.. Mining is a carebear trade, and carebears want to be left alone. Hulkageddon is an emergent activity within the sandbox. CCP has nothing to do with it, apart from creating a ship "better able to handle the dangers of deep space" that can't even tank a T1 destroyer long enough for CONCORD to do something about it. I've done null-sec mining, and while yes, it is very much a carebear trade, and yes, I did like being the only one within three systems, you never know when there might be an incoming roam that requires you to either safe up for a time, or swap the mining lasers for missiles to join the counter-attack. |
|
Einar Matveinen
nXo Intrepid Crossing
10
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:47:00 -
[191] - Quote
EvilweaselFinance wrote: halfrats for halfmen
Ok, we go.
Drunk leaders for... --> continue the phrase.
|
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
37
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:49:00 -
[192] - Quote
Atum wrote:CopyCatz wrote:- If you keep allowing hulkageddons and similar intimidation, mining will never get any more attractive.. Mining is a carebear trade, and carebears want to be left alone. Hulkageddon is an emergent activity within the sandbox. CCP has nothing to do with it, apart from creating a ship " better able to handle the dangers of deep space" that can't even tank a T1 destroyer long enough for CONCORD to do something about it. I've done null-sec mining, and while yes, it is very much a carebear trade, and yes, I did like being the only one within three systems, you never know when there might be an incoming roam that requires you to either safe up for a time, or swap the mining lasers for missiles to join the counter-attack. You can put missles on a hulk? |
Skye Aurorae
Viziam Amarr Empire
234
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:49:00 -
[193] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote: ** We have a chance of picking from a given loot table, and then ratios for each type within the table. If we just removed the Meta 0 stuff, we'd end up dropping WAY more Meta 1-4, which isn't desirable, and the only way to resolve this is to alter the table pick rates, which are authored on a per-NPC basis, which would mean recalculating and adjusting every NPC in the game. This isn't really viable within the scope of this release, and we don't want to push this change back because it means doing a "double shock" to mineral prices; hence the metal scraps.
So it'll be a lot easier to loot wrecks :)
So are the scrap drops going to be in piles to reflect that this loot entry 1 corresponds with a mining laser and loot entry 2 corresponds with a 425mm railgun - will the second entry get more metal scraps?
Also, what about Civilian shield boosters that drop - those have BPOs - are those going to be replaced with scraps too.
Ammunition - are ammo drops going away too?
Focused Medium Pulse lasers (or whatever they're going to be called) - I haven't seen a meta 1-4 drop for these in an age - can we check the loot table for these items? Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so..
|
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
43
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:50:00 -
[194] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Neddy Fox wrote:Quote: he added 3 more deadspace sites, bringing us to a point where we now have all 1/10 to 10/10 pirate deadspace sites in game
Sansha 9/10 doesn't exist.. Looking into this one as well Let me save you some time: you consider the fleet staging points the 9/10 though they're not labeled as such. There are no labeled "9/10s" but the fleet staging point is guaranteed to escalate and drops a-type loot. Correct on all points, this is working mostly as intended, good knowledge
???
Can we not have REAL 9/10s then? Fleet staging point sucks with the multiple escalations. Why do we have to fly all over to get a chance at a-type loot but can go to 1 place and get X-type?
|
Lifelongnoob
The Motley Crew Reborn Tribal Dragons
8
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:53:00 -
[195] - Quote
Astroniomix wrote:Atum wrote:CopyCatz wrote:- If you keep allowing hulkageddons and similar intimidation, mining will never get any more attractive.. Mining is a carebear trade, and carebears want to be left alone. Hulkageddon is an emergent activity within the sandbox. CCP has nothing to do with it, apart from creating a ship " better able to handle the dangers of deep space" that can't even tank a T1 destroyer long enough for CONCORD to do something about it. I've done null-sec mining, and while yes, it is very much a carebear trade, and yes, I did like being the only one within three systems, you never know when there might be an incoming roam that requires you to either safe up for a time, or swap the mining lasers for missiles to join the counter-attack. You can put missles on a hulk?
no but u can swap to a drake which most miners use to tank the rats while they mine in null |
Foreman Waters
IBM Weapons Division
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:55:00 -
[196] - Quote
So why nerf the sec status if the desire is to promote mining as a profession?
Its not like drones sites ( which are truly truly bad ) are worth doing now so with the removal of the alloys it comes down to mining to build anything in this region. In other regions you can salvage and reprocess and provides a sizable amount of mineral content for players to sell to building types like myself. So with no sites to run to provide chunky income as can be found in sites across the rest of eve ( ship prints and other modules along with officer spawns ) and no real answer about drone drops mining is the only answer.
That makes me actually rather happy I have trained hard into industry. But since the space is honestly otherwise worthless crushing the sec status and thru it the belts make ZERO sense. Looking at your chart you have turned much of drone space into crap.
Most of these changes I am 100% on board with, the sweeping sec changes tho should be going the other way if all things remain the same with drone land income faucets post alloys.
|
SamGromoff
Padded Helmets
25
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:55:00 -
[197] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Can we not have REAL 9/10s then? Fleet staging point sucks with the multiple escalations. Why do we have to fly all over to get a chance at a-type loot but can go to 1 place and get X-type?
There is a second source of X-type that does require you to fly all over the place. 'Real' 9/10's would be nice anyway, though.
Honestly, though, with this set of changes DED plexes will be fine. It's the mag/hacking sites that really need attention now. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
43
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:56:00 -
[198] - Quote
As for the rest, I can already tell, Drones are going to need to be "fleshed out" some. bounties are only a part of anoms. The faction/commander spawns, the escalations to expeditions and a slim chance at epic loot is the other parts. Unless the bounties are better than other pirates, there is no draw to going after drone space for ratting grounds.
While it's not really that high up there (fix TECH dang it), procuring ratting grounds for alliance members (or attracting renters, thus income) is a conflict driver. Crappy drones giving nothing much but bounties makes drone regions must less attractive, and I thought the overall goal was more conflict in eve, not less. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
564
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:57:00 -
[199] - Quote
Blakslabeth wrote:So the summary is:
#1 More expensive ships #2 Less ability to make isk in incursions #3 If you live in the drone region your true sec now sucks.
Hard to get excited about 3 nerfs in one blog.
1 - Not necessarily. The mins get to the market one way or another. If people are not Drone mining they may switch to normal mining. If the market is efficient (and it is) prices should stay pretty close to what they are now, it's game behavior that will change to accommodate the market not the other way around.
2- ...if by less you mean 10%. Oh well.
3 - move somewhere else. maybe this will spark a war.
|
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
575
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:57:00 -
[200] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote: ... would have somewhat defeated a large portion of ...
... my net worth. |
|
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:57:00 -
[201] - Quote
Skye Aurorae wrote: So are the scrap drops going to be in piles to reflect that this loot entry 1 corresponds with a mining laser and loot entry 2 corresponds with a 425mm railgun - will the second entry get more metal scraps?
any t1 mod drop is a single unit of metal scraps, no variation, per an earlier clarification |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
43
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:57:00 -
[202] - Quote
SamGromoff wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Can we not have REAL 9/10s then? Fleet staging point sucks with the multiple escalations. Why do we have to fly all over to get a chance at a-type loot but can go to 1 place and get X-type?
There is a second source of X-type that does require you to fly all over the place. 'Real' 9/10's would be nice anyway, though. Honestly, though, with this set of changes DED plexes will be fine. It's the mag/hacking sites that really need attention now.
Yea I know, I just hate that Named hubs escalate to Fleet Staging points instead of 9/10s. I either sell Fleet Staging points or let them die, not worth it.
|
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:58:00 -
[203] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote: Can we not have REAL 9/10s then? Fleet staging point sucks with the multiple escalations. Why do we have to fly all over to get a chance at a-type loot but can go to 1 place and get X-type?
You can drop a dread on the fleet staging point it doesn't get much better than that. |
Sarmatiko
666
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:59:00 -
[204] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:St Mio wrote: 3. Are you guys aware that when you added deadspace Invulnerability fields, Angel Cartel became the only faction dropping cruiser A-type loot in highsec?
3) I don't know what's up with this one, sorry
CCP Spitfire stated in this thread almost 2 months ago that this is known problem and fix is underway and you still "dont know what's up"? Anyone who can open contracts on TQ will not find any Gistum C-Type Invulnerability Field module. But there are tons of A-type because you put them in 4/10 sites.
Also is there any reason why I can enter in Blood Raider Intelligence Collection Point 3/10 site on Command ship but Sansha's Command Relay Outpost 3/10 is closed? If plexing 3/10 on Command ships is considered as overkill then why these sites are open for Strategic cruisers? |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
575
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 17:59:00 -
[205] - Quote
Foreman Waters wrote:So why nerf the sec status if the desire is to promote mining as a profession?
Unless I am mistaken, one can upgrade space, or do I misunderstand the system as it stands now? |
Skye Aurorae
Viziam Amarr Empire
234
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 18:03:00 -
[206] - Quote
EvilweaselFinance wrote:Skye Aurorae wrote: So are the scrap drops going to be in piles to reflect that this loot entry 1 corresponds with a mining laser and loot entry 2 corresponds with a 425mm railgun - will the second entry get more metal scraps?
any t1 mod drop is a single unit of metal scraps, no variation, per an earlier clarification
There are rats that drop piles of items - look at the hauler spawns for example either the pirate belt spawns or the couriers leaving stations. Clearly the functionality exists. Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so..
|
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
93
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 18:04:00 -
[207] - Quote
Lyrrashae wrote:Alx Warlord wrote:
[...]
Now we just need a cloak hunter ship to prevent people from ruining the industrial level of the systems by staying there cloaked until it reaches 0...
[...]
THX CCP! You are doing a wonderful work!
Oh for ****'s sakes... This over-entitled whinging crap again... No, you don't.Team up and make the effort to secure your space to the point that the big, bad, scawwy cloakie knows he practically can't decloak without getting insta-popped. And if you refuse to do that, then you deserve to lose the benefits of your space.
Does a good hotdop worth losing a tec2 frigate? yes.
Does a mining barge fleet risk going to a belt in a system is filed with neutrals in local? no.
People olny mine when it is profitable, risking to lose a Hulk is not, so or ccp makes it and gives a way to fight cloaked ships and remove them from system, or the economy will have a hard time ahead.
The problem of afk cloakers are that you can't do nothing to remove them once they are there. and yes, it kills the system economy, no matter how fortified is the system defenses! once the afk cloaker spots a miinning barge fleet, it just needs to open um a cyno and spike the local and maybe kill 1 ship to ruin the operation for the day and the economy of the system.. |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
8
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 18:06:00 -
[208] - Quote
Skye Aurorae wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Skye Aurorae wrote: So are the scrap drops going to be in piles to reflect that this loot entry 1 corresponds with a mining laser and loot entry 2 corresponds with a 425mm railgun - will the second entry get more metal scraps?
any t1 mod drop is a single unit of metal scraps, no variation, per an earlier clarification There are rats that drop piles of items - look at the hauler spawns for example either the pirate belt spawns or the couriers leaving stations. Clearly the functionality exists. right, but greyscale has confirmed it's going to work the way I said |
gfldex
456
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 18:06:00 -
[209] - Quote
Adunh Slavy wrote:Unless I am mistaken, one can upgrade space, or do I misunderstand the system as it stands now?
You can but it's a pain in the rear. You have to mine crap to be able to upgrade. If you stop mining, you will have to mine crap again. When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages. |
|
CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
1140
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 18:07:00 -
[210] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:St Mio wrote: 3. Are you guys aware that when you added deadspace Invulnerability fields, Angel Cartel became the only faction dropping cruiser A-type loot in highsec?
3) I don't know what's up with this one, sorry CCP Spitfire stated in this thread almost 2 months ago that this is known problem and fix is underway and you still "dont know what's up"? Anyone who can open contracts on TQ will not find any Gistum C-Type Invulnerability Field module. But there are tons of A-type because you put them in 4/10 sites.
Sorry, I should've been clearer: *I* don't know what's up with this, because it's not something that I, personally, have looked into or indeed know all that much about. I only replied to the question because it'd be rude to reply to 1 and 2 but not 3. If there's already been an official statement about this then I defer to whatever that statement said
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 .. 20 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |