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sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:06:00 - [511] Originally by: NightmareX same rant about omni tanks and dmg types (that only matter in 1 v 1 fights not BS gang combat).....different post You bleat on about the same 1 v 1 stat crap every few pages and you get shot down the same way every few pages, then you wait a while and start preaching the same drivel all over again like its some sort of revaluation and the answers to it have not already been given. You are a repetitive troll with no clue about gang combat on TQ. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
Traderboz	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:07:00 - [512] Wow. I'm sure the mods love you guys if you're actually spamming them with all these useless reports.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:08:00 - [513] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:23:15 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: NightmareX same rant about omni tanks and dmg types (that only matter in 1 v 1 fights not BS gang combat).....different post You bleat on about the same 1 v 1 stat crap every few pages and you get shot down the same way every few pages, then you wait a while and start preaching the same drivel all over again like its some sort of revaluation and the answers to it have not already been given. You are a repetitive troll with no clue about gang combat on TQ. Reported again for taking the topic off topic again. And because you reply with something that doesn't have anything to do with what i asked about. I asked about resists and EHP in general, not 1 vs 1 dude. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:10:00 - [514] Originally by: NightmareX troll Reported for trolling/harrasment ect ect My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:13:00 - [515] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:15:09 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: NightmareX troll Reported for trolling/harrasment ect ect , omg scary propaganda. Do you gonna answer me the questions i asked HERE?. Or wait, i said that you was not included to answer me there, nvm. Or are you still gonna do off topic replies and lie so you get reported all the time?. Don't you have had enough temp bans on the forum now?. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:15:00 - [516] The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain MORONS may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:15:00 - [517] Originally by: NightmareX troll Reported for trolling/harassment. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:15:00 - [518] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain MORONS may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. Reported Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:17:00 - [519] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:18:01 Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain MORONS may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. Reported So much for answering on topic... Reported for harrasment ect ect. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:20:00 - [520] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:21:42 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:18:01 Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain MORONS may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. Reported So much for answering on topic... Reported for harrasment ect ect. Yeah, report me dude, your gonna be suprised to see who's the one whos getting a few weeks ban from the forum now But yeah, you are reported again for telling ME to be on topic when your not doing that your self. Oh by the way, what's your point by doing this really?. Do you like to be banned from the forum?. You wont get ANYWAY by doing this, you wont change anythng for me other than that i'm reporting you for taking this topic way off topic. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise

sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:21:00 - [521] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:25:00 Originally by: NightmareX ranting troll as per usual /ignore troll. The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain sissi heroes may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:25:00 - [522] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:26:26 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:25:00 Originally by: NightmareX ranting troll as per usual /ignore troll. The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain sissi heroes may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. Yeah just ignore me. That's all you can do when you face the fact from me. Reported again for going off topic. Hmmm, 7-8 reports on you now. Mmmmmm gonna be sweet when the forum mods see this. Hahah i'm gonna love this. Now i'm gonna ignore you, hah. Tell whatever bull**** you want. But i'm not gonna make this toic go more off topic because one troll is taking it off topic. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:26:00 - [523] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:28:14 Originally by: NightmareX MORE ranting troll as per usual /ignore troll.+ reported for foul/abusive language. The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain sissi heroes may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:31:00 - [524] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:33:26 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Epic whine and troll Do you think i care about your epic noob whines?. Give me some facts about what i asked about and i'm gonna listen to you. You won't get any more replies from me now. The more you reply with this crap, the more you get reported. And i will do it without even replying here. But comeon, one more copy pasta reply, i know you can do it. Your awesome if you do, don't disapoint me now. Don't expect me to reply to your copy pasta whines. I think i have replies enough to them alrady. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:32:00 - [525] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:33:10 Originally by: NightmareX Yet more troll /ignore troll+ reported for harassment ect. The problem with blasters is there effectiveness in the ranges they already have not that they need longer ranges. And while certain sissi heroes may continue to preach about omni tanks and dmg types the fact is that in gang combat those things are considerably less important than a 1 v 1 sissi warrior with no clue about gang pvp on TQ may think. A boost to dmg in the ranges they already have will help them be better in gang combat while taking nothing away from lasers ect. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:36:00 - [526] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:36:43 My last reply. Goddamnit, i need more popcorn. This is going to be fun. Anyways, afk. Dinner time. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
Traderboz	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:36:00 - [527] I think it's a valid point that most armor tanked ships are more susceptible to blaster damage types than laser damage types. That doesn't mean the argument is over, but it's another point to consider and isn't just a "1 v 1" issue. And while you say that boosting blasters won't affect lasers, that's just sort of silly. Whether something is good or bad in this game depends on how it compares to other things in the game. As a complete hypothetical, if a BB dealt 2k dps, it wouldn't mean much if other ships were dealing 5k dps. Point being, buffing or nerfing any module or ship affects more than just that module/ship. And I think Nightmare has a point when bringing up missiles/projectiles. If you buff blasters, then what about autocannons? How would they compare to buffed blasters? It's easy enough to only argue against lasers and then ask for a buff, but I think you need to consider the other weapons in the game as well and what a blaster buff would do to them. There's some stuff that resembles intelligent discussion in all these posts, but it's few and far between, haha, and even you guys don't seem to consider the other person's points when leaping to conclusions. I can't say I'm surprised though, haha, since you guys can't get past post spamming and "reporting" each other, as if that's such a huge burn or something.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:42:00 - [528] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 12:44:49 Originally by: Traderboz I think it's a valid point that most armor tanked ships are more susceptible to blaster damage types than laser damage types. That doesn't mean the argument is over, but it's another point to consider and isn't just a "1 v 1" issue. Perhaps but in gang combat omni tanks and dmg types are no as big of a issue as they are in 1 v 1. NightmareNOXP has given on many occasions his pest fit that can "tank a laser ship easily "as a example of how things are fine. When the example is so flawed for a gang combat thread its a joke. Originally by: Traderboz And I think Nightmare has a point when bringing up missiles/projectiles. If you buff blasters, then what about autocannons? How would they compare to buffed blasters? It's easy enough to only argue against lasers and then ask for a buff, but I think you need to consider the other weapons in the game as well and what a blaster buff would do to them. If the other systems need a boost to be balanced as well id support it but this is the blaster thread and as such we are discussing the problems with blasters at the moment. PS: And yea nightmareNOXP's introduction of "answer me and il claim its off topic and report you" was rather juvenile but he is a liar and a inexperienced sissi warrior and has been proven to be so many times, so its all he has left to do... My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 12:50:00 - [529] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 12:54:22 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean PS: And yea nightmareNOXP's introduction of "answer me and il claim its off topic and report you" was rather juvenile but he is a liar and a inexperienced sissi warrior and has been proven to be so many times, so its all he has left to do... So yeah, only because i asked a question about something i learned about after 2-3 weeks after i started to play EVE, it doesn't mean i'm a sisi warrior just because i say those things. Almost everyone know the things i have been asking about. And we don't need to do ANYTHING on sisi to just know those few things that i'm asking about. And you should know that. And yeah. This is a Blaster topic, but when someone say boost Blasters, then we can say that this will make the other weapon types underpowered again, and because it's much easier to just nerf Lasers a little to get them in the same line as the 3 other weapon types instead of boosting 3 weapon types to get them inline with one weapn type, then that's a reason that is fully allowed to say. Traderboz, yes, i have a point on what i'm saying about that. Maybe that's the reason someone in this topic can't answer me the questions heh. We can't just say yeah boost Blasters and then doesn't take in all of the other things that a Blaster boost are going to make really broken. Everyone can agree on that. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
Happster Polaris Project	Posted - 2009.03.15 13:41:00 - [530] Originally by: NightmareX I don't get some of the peoples in this topic why they are saying booohooo, Blasters are only do some few % better DPS than Lasers in web range, and it's not worth it today. You still forget the armor omni tanks. When you take the armor omni tanks into the picture, the raw DPS on Blasters will get around 30% better than Lasers have. And it's because of the damage types the different weapons are doing. And Amarr BS'es have got a bit more EHP to counter that up. Seems pretty balanced to me. You cannot change that fact. Anyone wanna prove me wrong about that?. And also, why boost Blasters that are balanced with Autocannons and Missiles?. Boost Blaster and you have to boost Autocannons and Missiles to. A litle off topic but wanted to comment on some of your post. If your argumentation about blaster mega vs amarr lasers boats is dps vs ehp and omni tank. Where would the AC pest fit in this? shouldnt the AC pest get a big boost then? The dps, omni tank and ehp on a pest vs a blaster mega cant even come close. Does this mean the pest needs a big boost? Same is if compare ac pest vs laser boat. On other side, i kind of agree with last part of your post where you say why boost 3 weapons instead of just nerfing one. Ref my earlier post about tracking nerf on lasers, and a small boost on optimal on emp and hail. If this was implented i would find all guns and ship as balanced as it can be...

NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 13:58:00 - [531] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 14:06:28 Originally by: Happster Originally by: NightmareX I don't get some of the peoples in this topic why they are saying booohooo, Blasters are only do some few % better DPS than Lasers in web range, and it's not worth it today. You still forget the armor omni tanks. When you take the armor omni tanks into the picture, the raw DPS on Blasters will get around 30% better than Lasers have. And it's because of the damage types the different weapons are doing. And Amarr BS'es have got a bit more EHP to counter that up. Seems pretty balanced to me. You cannot change that fact. Anyone wanna prove me wrong about that?. And also, why boost Blasters that are balanced with Autocannons and Missiles?. Boost Blaster and you have to boost Autocannons and Missiles to. A litle off topic but wanted to comment on some of your post. If your argumentation about blaster mega vs amarr lasers boats is dps vs ehp and omni tank. Where would the AC pest fit in this? shouldnt the AC pest get a big boost then? The dps, omni tank and ehp on a pest vs a blaster mega cant even come close. Does this mean the pest needs a big boost? Same is if compare ac pest vs laser boat. On other side, i kind of agree with last part of your post where you say why boost 3 weapons instead of just nerfing one. Ref my earlier post about tracking nerf on lasers, and a small boost on optimal on emp and hail. If this was implented i would find all guns and ship as balanced as it can be... Yeah, an AC fitted Tempest isn't as strong as a Blaster Mega and an Abaddon. I agree on that. But, because the Tempest is more versatile than any of those 2 BS'es, and because you can have utility slots to use for EW and Neuts / NOS etc. Then i will say that those things can make it up to the Blaster Mega and Abaddon. Personally i have seen a Tempest that have both neuts and ECM that have totally screwed up both a Blaster Mega and an Abaddon without any problems. The thing with ECM though is just about being lucky to get jam cycles. If you get jam cycles it gives you some few things that you can decide in the 20 secs they are jammed. If you have one target scrambling you and you see that your getting locked by many others that we are fighting, if you are a bit away from the BS'es and that. Then you can actually just jam the scrambling frig and hope to get a jam cycle and run away if needed. Or it can buy you some time to take more damage to the target so the chance to kill one is higher. Ofc, if your prmaried and scrambled by a frig and don't get a jam cycle on the frig so you can't get out, your not going to survive though. But that's how EVE is, you cannot win all the time. Personally i have been up to the situation where i have been tackled by 2 frigs while the main gang is on the way to me to kill me. And i knew that if i couldn't get out now, i would be toast within seconds. So what i did was to jam one of the frig, and i did, but i still had the 2nd frigs on me that was scrambling me. And i was just praying that right after the jam on the first frig was over, i would jam the 2nd frig right after. And guess what, it did. So at this moment, no one had me scrambled, and because i was aligned, i managed to get out before the first frig got a lock on me again. And before the rest of the gang jumped in. Yes this happened on TQ like 4-5 months ago. This is just one example on what you can do with a Tempest. You would never be able to do that in a Megathron or an Abaddon if you want to use the normal PVP setups. And those things is what make a Tempest really nice and fun to use. And just remember, i only fit ECM and Neuts to a close range AC Tempest. That's the reason i like it so much. The Tempest is still not as strong as Blaster Mega and an Abaddon with Pulse Lasers. But what you can do with a Tempest is making up for it a bit. I hope this gives you some answers though. See, if you ask good questions, you get good answers back. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
Gevic	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:09:00 - [532] Edited by: Gevic on 15/03/2009 14:09:58 Make the pain stop, please make it stop. I have my own opinions about blasterboats, but who cares its going to buried under the two srs bsns forum worriarzz!!! For the love of god take it to another topic where you two can flame the crap out of one another. Or better yet, get your respective corps to wardec each other to determine who is the l33t p0aster. Just stop **ting up this thread. Some of us actually, you know, actually want to read or participate in a non ****ed discussion about the viability of blasters and the platforms that use them.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:19:00 - [533] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 14:24:49 Originally by: Gevic Edited by: Gevic on 15/03/2009 14:09:58 Make the pain stop, please make it stop. I have my own opinions about blasterboats, but who cares its going to buried under the two srs bsns forum worriarzz!!! For the love of god take it to another topic where you two can flame the crap out of one another. Or better yet, get your respective corps to wardec each other to determine who is the l33t p0aster. Just stop **ting up this thread. Some of us actually, you know, actually want to read or participate in a non ****ed discussion about the viability of blasters and the platforms that use them. I have made it stop. At lease for now Anyways. As you can see on my last posts here now. I give a full explanation on how things are with the different things in PVP, and about the different ships. And when someone here ask me some pretty good questions about what i was writing about HERE. Then you can see that i actually gives good answers back to. It's not like what sophisticatedlimabean are telling all the time that booohooo, it's only for 1 vs 1 and booohooo it's only from sisi, and then rabble away without giving any explanations. And as a good example on how sophisticatedlimabean is here, just take a look what he have spammed this topic with after this detailed and good explanained post HERE. There is no suprise that this topic get to a spam topic with him here. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:20:00 - [534] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 14:26:11 Originally by: Gevic Make the pain stop, please make it stop. I have my own opinions about blasterboats, but who cares its going to buried under the two srs bsns forum worriarzz!!! For the love of god take it to another topic where you two can flame the crap out of one another. Or better yet, get your respective corps to wardec each other to determine who is the l33t p0aster. Just stop **ting up this thread. Some of us actually, you know, actually want to read or participate in a non **ed discussion about the viability of blasters and the platforms that use them. So other than another rant do you have anything on topic to add?. Preferably not a post about a solo BS fitted with jammers ect vs a frig or two, as this thread is about the usefulness of blaster ships in BS GANG combat and how underpowered they are. Especially considering the fact that GANG PVP is the only pvp really available to BS on TQ. I mean jamming a frig or two 4-5 months ago and running away (if it really happened as the poster is a total liar) is hardly relevant to gang combat or blasters... But "hey look at me in my solo pest on sissi"** is all some ppl can post about.... My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:27:00 - [535] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 14:28:19 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean But "hey look at me in ny solo pest on sissi" is all some ppl can post about.... Reported for trolling again. Are you done soon with the trolling?. And do you think i have to asnwer one that aks about an AC Tempest with something that have to do with Blasters. Dude an AC Tempest don't use Blasters. I have to answer about what the good things is about a Tempest when someone actually ARE asking about a Tempest. Are you really that dense or dumb?. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:28:00 - [536] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 14:29:11 Originally by: NightmareX more ranting troll Reported for off topic comments and harassment ect ect. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:29:00 - [537] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 14:29:46 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 15/03/2009 14:28:12 Originally by: NightmareX troll Reported for off topic comments and harassment ect ect. Oh look, the copy pasta king is back. And also, i know your trying to get this topic locked to, but dude, your not gonna make any sense with a Boost Blaster topic by getting them locled lol. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:30:00 - [538] Originally by: NightmareX off topic trolling ect reported. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.
NightmareX Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:30:00 - [539] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/03/2009 14:31:22 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: NightmareX off topic trolling ect reported. Hmm, i don't see any report mails from CCP. Where are they?. Oh noes, i'm gonna start to cry, someone is telling me that i'm getting reported when in fact i'm not. Check out my new flash web page: Dark Paradise
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:31:00 - [540] Originally by: NightmareX Dude an AC Tempest don't use Blasters. Then reported for off topic comments. Originally by: NightmareX Are you really that dense or dumb?. Reported for off topic comments and insults. My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake.



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