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Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:21:00 - [391] Originally by: Momoha I'd find it hard to stay in Kenny as a so-called "grown-up". Besides, don't only little middle-schoolers use that term? Very indicative of your mentality. Maybe when you turn 30 in two decades you'll find that we call them "adults". That was easly one of the most long winded "noU" posts I have seen in a while. Unfortunately the first sentence doesn't make too much sense, but still, good effort. アニメ漫画です
Lizhia Birath Minmatar Rogue Industrial Group The Fifth Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:23:00 - [392] Edited by: Lizhia Birath on 25/03/2009 22:24:28 Originally by: XoPhyte Originally by: Lizhia Birath And since ccp seem to have said no on the renaming goonswarms bob corp for whatever reason, non that has been given yet, bob is free to creat a alliance named whatever they want. Simple as that. If they had been thinking ahead they would have created that alliance from the start, "just in case" coz coming a few months later saying "Guys, we really thought we couldnt lose this thus we didnt prepare for it, so we should get a free namechange to something else insead." does not float. WTB an enter key... The funny thing is, Bob (we) are not really complaining about it. Who cares, CCP changed it, then changed it back. Only thing we wish was they had got the ruling correct in the first place. Or go with your original tinfoil thought, we thought we could bribe CCP, we were only succesful for a couple of days, and now we are loging in our goon alts to complain about it. Btw, I'm darius's alt if you are wondering.... But avon stated you thought it was a clear cut case and thus there was no need to take any other action then to sit back and relax, well here we are and you were wrong. And here is the enter key just for you. -dbp
CrazyTom	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:23:00 - [393] Originally by: Shai 'Hulud Originally by: GM Grimmi We have previously changed names provided a petition was created within a reasonable timeframe and the situation warranted such action. The leadership of KenZoku/Band of Brothers did petition us immediately after they were disbanded and their name was taken. While we worked on the petition for about two months we do not feel that they should suffer because of that. Having them disband and lose sovereignty again was not deemed appropriate in this case. Originally by: GM Grimmi Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. CCP, I refuse to believe that you are this stupid. It seems that rather than actually investigating their request, you spent two months trying to find a way to bend the rules without an incident. Better luck next time. what is the truth ccp?
Vincent Gaines Avis de Captura	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:23:00 - [394] Originally by: Caius Proximus Uh, no, the "moral outrage" was over CCP stepping in to alter things that were in contradiction to game mechanics. You wanted that to be the customer policy, but I guess it wasn't since lmao back to anime alliance isn't the petition system, or GMs there for issues that come in conflict with game mechanics? mind you I'm referring to situations like this, not something like "my cat tripped over my ethernet and I DC'd thus losing my faction fit BS"
XoPhyte Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:23:00 - [395] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Momoha I'd find it hard to stay in Kenny as a so-called "grown-up". Besides, don't only little middle-schoolers use that term? Very indicative of your mentality. Maybe when you turn 30 in two decades you'll find that we call them "adults". That was easly one of the most long winded "noU" posts I have seen in a while. Unfortunately the first sentence doesn't make too much sense, but still, good effort. My math may be a bit fuzzy here, but I'm pretty sure he just called you a 10 year old Avon!
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:23:00 - [396] Originally by: Caius Proximus Uh, no, the "moral outrage" was over CCP stepping in to alter things that were in contradiction to game mechanics. You wanted that to be the customer policy, but I guess it wasn't since lmao back to anime alliance There is no game mechanic for renaming, it is only a customer policy. You are making increasingly less sense the further you backpedal. アニメ漫画です
Momoha GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:24:00 - [397] Edited by: Momoha on 25/03/2009 22:24:23 Originally by: Avon That was easly one of the most long winded "noU" posts I have seen in a while. Unfortunately the first sentence doesn't make too much sense, but still, good effort. Go back to 4chan, idiot. We don't want your memes around here.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:25:00 - [398] Originally by: XoPhyte My math may be a bit fuzzy here, but I'm pretty sure he just called you a 10 year old Avon! Cool, I am the same age as my oldest son. アニメ漫画です
XoPhyte Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:25:00 - [399] Originally by: Momoha Edited by: Momoha on 25/03/2009 22:24:23 Originally by: Avon That was easly one of the most long winded "noU" posts I have seen in a while. Unfortunately the first sentence doesn't make too much sense, but still, good effort. Go back to 4chan, idiot. We don't want your memes around here. Ahh, cmon, thats not nice.
Vincent Gaines Avis de Captura	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:26:00 - [400] Originally by: Momoha Go back to 4chan, idiot. We don't want your memes around here. you sir, are on the ball!
Momoha GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:26:00 - [401] Originally by: Avon Cool, I am the same age as my oldest son. This has to be child abuse. I'm calling the police. Hopefully they won't side with BoB on this one initially.
elohllird Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:27:00 - [402] Avon wishes he was thirty still, i tell you
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:27:00 - [403] Originally by: Momoha Originally by: Avon Cool, I am the same age as my oldest son. This has to be child abuse. I'm calling the police. Hopefully they won't side with BoB on this one initially. Why would they side with a corp in Goonswarm? アニメ漫画です
XoPhyte Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:27:00 - [404] Originally by: Caius Proximus Uh, no, the "moral outrage" was over CCP stepping in to alter things that were in contradiction to game mechanics. You wanted that to be the customer policy, but I guess it wasn't since lmao back to anime alliance I've been looking for that "change alliance name" button that you are refering to, since we are talking about "game mechanics". Sadly I cannot find it, could you kindly point me in the right direction? Thx in advance!
Vincent Gaines Avis de Captura	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:27:00 - [405] Originally by: Momoha Originally by: Avon Cool, I am the same age as my oldest son. This has to be child abuse. I'm calling the police. Hopefully they won't side with BoB on this one initially. be sure to flood the 911 lines for 2 days straight, to complain.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:28:00 - [406] Originally by: elohllird Avon wishes he was thirty still, i tell you I'd settle for being the right side of 35 tbh. アニメ漫画です
Resipsa Loquitor Black Eclipse Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:28:00 - [407] Hey, what's going on in here? Anyone got a tl;dnr summary? I vote for pizza if that's what the discussion is about.
elohllird Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:28:00 - [408] Originally by: Avon Originally by: elohllird Avon wishes he was thirty still, i tell you I'd settle for being the right side of 35 tbh. aye me too
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:29:00 - [409] Originally by: Resipsa Loquitor Hey, what's going on in here? Anyone got a tl;dnr summary? I vote for pizza if that's what the discussion is about. tl;dr: I don't have to change my sig after all! アニメ漫画です
NereSky Gallente Domination. PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:29:00 - [410] Suppose this will be the case get enough goons to cry and stamp their feet like spoiled bratz then ike parents CCP will cave, Shame CCP looks like you are being run by Goons now
Caius Proximus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:29:00 - [411] Originally by: Vincent Gaines Originally by: Lizhia Birath but BoBR was free for them to take at that time so there was no need to petition for the change. They claim they would have disbanded again on the spot and created a new alliance called BoB had they been given the chance, so if BoBR was the name they wanted and it was free they should have created the allaince just as easily. they didn't want BoBr, they wanted BoB back. By what I've read, they had a choice- petition it and create a new alliance, starting at sov 0, or petition it, join an alt-alliance, and start at sov 1 tactically they made the right decision, and anyone else in the same situation would have done just that. for some reason, they didn't get BoB, they got perhaps a #2 choice? I don't know as I'm not in BoB I don't think "anyone in the same position" would have petitioned to get their name back like a bunch of *****es when they knew they lost it legit (and if you want to trump out precedent then the current precedent is Lotka Volterra and not Cult of War). For example when we were getting remote doomsdayed left and right, we didn't petition to get the titans banned in case the remote doomsdays happened to be a bug in the game mechanics. We took it and in the meantime campaigned to get the mechanic changed by pointing out how ridiculous it was, and eventually it was fixed. Nothing from that was retro-actively replaced by CCP.
Will Hunter GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:29:00 - [412] Originally by: **sock Alarmclock Originally by:** XoPhyte Don't you guys get tired of the tinfoil? haargoth sure did booooooosh
Momoha GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:30:00 - [413] Originally by: NereSky Suppose this will be the case get enough goons to cry and stamp their feet like spoiled bratz then ike parents CCP will cave, Shame CCP looks like you are being run by Goons now Yeah, let me call up CCP's CEO and get two more titans for myself.
XoPhyte Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:31:00 - [414] Originally by: Will Hunter Originally by: **sock Alarmclock Originally by:** XoPhyte Don't you guys get tired of the tinfoil? haargoth sure did booooooosh Wait, I think I know how this works... 2 decades from now you will be 30.... Man I hope thats right...
ThorTheGreat Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:31:00 - [415] Originally by: XoPhyte Originally by: Caius Proximus Uh, no, the "moral outrage" was over CCP stepping in to alter things that were in contradiction to game mechanics. You wanted that to be the customer policy, but I guess it wasn't since lmao back to anime alliance I've been looking for that "change alliance name" button that you are refering to, since we are talking about "game mechanics". Sadly I cannot find it, could you kindly point me in the right direction? Thx in advance! The fact that there isn't one should clue you in to their stance on the matter... Take your time. It'll come.
elohllird Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:31:00 - [416] i was liking my new sig now its gone sad panda face
XoPhyte Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:32:00 - [417] Originally by: ThorTheGreat Originally by: XoPhyte Originally by: Caius Proximus Uh, no, the "moral outrage" was over CCP stepping in to alter things that were in contradiction to game mechanics. You wanted that to be the customer policy, but I guess it wasn't since lmao back to anime alliance I've been looking for that "change alliance name" button that you are refering to, since we are talking about "game mechanics". Sadly I cannot find it, could you kindly point me in the right direction? Thx in advance! The fact that there isn't one should clue you in to their stance on the matter... Take your time. It'll come. I also keep looking for the unbug capital ship arrays, or the reimburse dreadnaught button. But darn it to all I just cannot locate them. Perhaps CCP should just remove the "petition" button instead?
Momoha GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:33:00 - [418] Originally by: XoPhyte Wait, I think I know how this works... 2 decades from now you will be 30.... Man I hope thats right... Ellipses look really cool...........................................................................................................................................................
Vincent Gaines Avis de Captura	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:33:00 - [419] Originally by: Caius Proximus I don't think "anyone in the same position" would have petitioned to get their name back like a bunch of *****es when they knew they lost it legit (and if you want to trump out precedent then the current precedent is Lotka Volterra and not Cult of War). For example when we were getting remote doomsdayed left and right, we didn't petition to get the titans banned in case the remote doomsdays happened to be a bug in the game mechanics. We took it and in the meantime campaigned to get the mechanic changed by pointing out how ridiculous it was, and eventually it was fixed. Nothing from that was retro-actively replaced by CCP. LV dissolved, it was not done by the actions of a largely-inactive director who did it on a whim. and your example of not petitioning a remote DD- which was an intentional feature, i.e. placed in the game to do that... don't compare it to what boils down to an overlooked loophole in alliance security.
Caius Proximus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 22:33:00 - [420] Originally by: XoPhyte Originally by: Caius Proximus Uh, no, the "moral outrage" was over CCP stepping in to alter things that were in contradiction to game mechanics. You wanted that to be the customer policy, but I guess it wasn't since lmao back to anime alliance I've been looking for that "change alliance name" button that you are refering to, since we are talking about "game mechanics". Sadly I cannot find it, could you kindly point me in the right direction? Thx in advance! You can disband your alliance and make a new one and if you've been wardecced then make a holding corp and create a new one using that. Yes it will cost you something unlike petitioning for a change but that is the entire point.

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