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Xaen Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:09:00 - [121] Oh my god, you ~~killed~~ resurrected kenny! - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
i hatechosingnames Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:09:00 - [122] well there goes my chance of getting my characters name changed :(
Leaving Eve Boo Hoo Federation	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:09:00 - [123] Just as a note, I created a corp with another char. An hour after creation, one of my mates informed me I'd typo'd the name. A quick petition and the name was corrected. This was however a) A typo, not a name change b) Within hours of the creation So I did get a name change myself, but I think a & b above are mitigating factors. If I'd have left it a week or so, then I wouldn't expect the same helpfulness. Well done, CCP. I fully support Cat4CSM.
Zeph1rus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:10:00 - [124] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance. GUYS GUYS GUYS LOOK AT ME GUYS GUYS I'M STILL HERE GUYS GUYS C'MON GUYS .. GUYS?
Poopsock Alarmclock Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:10:00 - [125] Originally by: Jade Constantine GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? GM Grimmi while we're at it, can I get Lotka Volterra back? I understand someone stole it right out from under me. :(
Rick Thwaites Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:10:00 - [126] Originally by: Xaen Oh my god, you ~~killed~~ resurrected kenny! <3. --
Johnny Gurkha Maleficus Cruentus Interfeci	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:11:00 - [127] CCP Condom
Liz Laser School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:11:00 - [128] The concern goes way beyond Goon tears. Many many more of us have future ambitions of conquering the galaxy one day, and a level playing field is essential for those dreams to ever be realized. Admittedly, about 239,000 of those dreams won't be realized, anyway. But dashing those dreams with blatant favoritism is terribly unwise.
Xianbei	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:11:00 - [129] Edited by: Xianbei on 25/03/2009 19:13:02 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance. why ? it was done using normal in game mechanics. what rule was broken by goonies when they made that corp name ? edit: fail at quoting
Captain Thunk Sniggerdly	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:11:00 - [130] Thank-you CCP.
Vladic Ka Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:11:00 - [131] Originally by: Xaen Oh my god, you ~~killed~~ resurrected kenny! Thats my line.
Mrs Trzzbk GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:12:00 - [132] Edited by: Mrs Trzzbk on 25/03/2009 19:12:46 Originally by: Scatim Helicon Originally by: Asestorian CCP on the side of the Goons again I see. Utterly disgraceful. We control your game now. More like "we control your name now" lolololololol (Source: gf.com some poster whose name i can't be assed to look up.)
Merita	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:12:00 - [133] Thanks CCP.
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:12:00 - [134] Small matter; yet feels important to handle this along bigger things. -Lasse with renewed faith in small northern company
Flaming Lemming Caldari Puppeteer Press	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:12:00 - [135] Edited by: Flaming Lemming on 25/03/2009 19:14:06 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance. If the CoW precedent has been set, I would not have a problem with this. edit : By paying 1 billion ISK, and sacrificing SOV by joining the 'new' BOB alliance I mean, not just 1 billion for a name change. Looks like this is appropriate again...
Iva Soreass Blind Violence	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:12:00 - [136] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance. This. Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
Xaen Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:13:00 - [137] Originally by: Vladic Ka Originally by: Xaen Oh my god, you ~~killed~~ resurrected kenny! Thats my line. Yeah, but I can say it louder, if not better. :D - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:14:00 - [138] Originally by: Rick Thwaites Originally by: Xaen Oh my god, you ~~killed~~ resurrected kenny! <3. The the the hmmm hang on a mo the legitimate children.
Wang Ping	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:14:00 - [139] ELECTRIC JUSTICE!!!
Berious Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:14:00 - [140] Thanks for listening CCP. Seriously, good job.
Xianbei	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:15:00 - [141] Originally by: Iva Soreass Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance. This. this what ? their name "band of brothers" was taken using allowed, in game mechanics. you are asking for blatant favoritism. at least blush a little you shill.
SFShootme Reikoku KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:15:00 - [142] /spine [VIDEO] Paroxysm
Vincent Gaines Avis de Captura	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:15:00 - [143] Originally by: Xianbei why ? it was done using normal in game mechanics. what rule was broken by goonies when they made that corp name ? edit: fail at quoting precedent, same as the reason this decision was reversed.
Kheldon Fel	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:15:00 - [144] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance. Spoils of war my good man(?) Spoils of war.
NRCom Gemini Sun	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:15:00 - [145] Thanks CCP I believe you made the correct decision (eventually). Perhaps more care should be taken in the future with rule testing decisions particularly when allegations of favouritism, whether founded or not could be made. Thanks to the Goons for ThreadNaughting this and helping to bring it to a just conclusion.
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:16:00 - [146] Originally by: SFShootme /spine /rules Sig locked, please mail [email protected] with a new sig to be considered for use - Mitnal.
Davor Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:16:00 - [147] Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: SFShootme hahahahahhahaha
New ones Caldari Koln united	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:16:00 - [148] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies. Best post here in a loong time GM Grimmi. Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? I understand there is precedent for this process (see Cult of War) and would you agree with me that allowing Band of Brothers leadership their alliance identity back with zero sovereignty and the appropriate alliance formation payment would be the appropriate and fair resolution of this case? I think you have correctly reached the conclusion that one part of this resolution (kenzoku into band of brothers reloaded) was incorrectly handled. Will you now ensure that the other part of the resolution (failing to remove/rename the goonswarm identity blocking corp) will also now be rectified. Thanks in advance.
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:16:00 - [149] Originally by: Bullitnutz Originally by: Jade Constantine Will you be renaming the Band of Brothers alt-corp currently controlled by the Goonswarm alliance and allowing the original Band of Brothers leadership to re-establish their alliance name by paying 1billion isk? Well, that was fast. Seems that worthless piece of ... whatever has a point though.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:17:00 - [150] Thanks CCP, I appreciate you realizing you made a mistake in this case and fixing it. Same rules for everyone and all that.

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