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Irya Boone
Escadron leader
33
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Posted - 2012.08.12 11:22:00 -
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because they don't want to make pleople cry !! Official announce : all team of ccp are working Hard on FiS features .....
Whormoles are working as Intended .. so don't Touch my Hole CCP !!!
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
658
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Posted - 2012.08.12 11:25:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:because they don't want to make pleople cry !! Official announce : all team of ccp are working Hard on FiS features .....
Official announce : All of CCP are working hard on the DUST beta
Team Avatar was made to work on the avatar system ,get over it LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!-á |

Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
178
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:21:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Irya Boone wrote:because they don't want to make pleople cry !! Official announce : all team of ccp are working Hard on FiS features .....
Official announce : All of CCP are working hard on the DUST beta Team Avatar was made to work on the avatar system ,get over it Sadly I suspect we will get an announcement very soon that Team Avatar is being disbanded. If WiS isn't coming for a couple more years, I don't see what it is they could possibly be doing during that time., Heck, with todays off the shelf technology, I bet a team of five could release an entire MMO in 2-3 years.
Team Avatar was a smoke screen. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:52:00 -
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The complaining, bitter personal sniping, and inflated senses of entitlement demonstrated in this thread goes a long way towards explaining why CCP aren't willing to put out any more information about WiS. If you were a member of Team Avatar reading the comments, would you be telling yourself what a great bunch of guys these WiS enthusiasts were, and how you'd better give everything you have and go the extra mile to keep them in the loop? Or would you prefer to get on with your work, thinking ''why bother'' with a forum update or devblog because all you'll get in return is sullen whines and accusations of dishonesty and ulterior motives? Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2338
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Posted - 2012.08.12 15:59:00 -
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Right now they are working with basic concepts for game play.
They came up with a reasonable concept and a prototype to test.
The key word being prototype.
They may very well have found that their were some flaw's in the basic concept that require a change... or they may very well have found a way to may the game play even more unique to the EVE universe and don't want to make that information public just yet.
We knew going in this was going to take a while to get right, don't get impatient (and silly) about it now. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
658
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:07:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Right now they are working with basic concepts for game play.
They came up with a reasonable concept and a prototype to test.
The key word being prototype.
They may very well have found that their were some flaw's in the basic concept that require a change... or they may very well have found a way to may the game play even more unique to the EVE universe and don't want to make that information public just yet.
We knew going in this was going to take a while to get right, don't get impatient (and silly) about it now.
your guess is as good as any
Bc of the sudden decision of not allowing the blog TA made by some management pricks without even telling, why .We are left in the dark about it.......again LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!-á |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:36:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Right now they are working with basic concepts for game play.
They came up with a reasonable concept and a prototype to test.
The key word being prototype.
They may very well have found that their were some flaw's in the basic concept that require a change... or they may very well have found a way to may the game play even more unique to the EVE universe and don't want to make that information public just yet.
We knew going in this was going to take a while to get right, don't get impatient (and silly) about it now. your guess is as good as any Bc of the sudden decision of not allowing the blog TA made by some management pricks without even telling, why .We are left in the dark about it.......again There's little point releasing a dev blog about something that isn't going to be even close to a playable release in the next 12 months, and CCP has a poor record when they've done similar 'long term forecasting' in the past. And going by this thread, all they'd get in response is posts about "management pricks" and "ccp lying to us" and "lets shoot statues and unsubscribe in protest". Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Ghazu
27
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:44:00 -
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CCP Unifex: That's a stupid question and I refuse to answer it. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
547
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:58:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Right now they are working with basic concepts for game play.
They came up with a reasonable concept and a prototype to test.
The key word being prototype.
They may very well have found that their were some flaw's in the basic concept that require a change... or they may very well have found a way to may the game play even more unique to the EVE universe and don't want to make that information public just yet.
We knew going in this was going to take a while to get right, don't get impatient (and silly) about it now.
They could implement multiplayer CQs. Not the whole nine yards of WiS with hawezome gameplay and shiny, just make baby steps to keep us content after they pissed on our face with Incarna. Also to keep spending money on WiS so it becomes more and more difficult to justify abandoning it.
Because as we are now, they could plain remove the CQ from the client (they already stopped updating it), say "that was all folks" and call it a day until there is a new chance to implement WiS once DUST makes big bucks and WoD is at full production speed and can share some resources with granny EVE.
Because, you know, we the WiSers are "expendable" customers. Or so they think, and hang me if I know how to prove them wrong.  "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |

Ghazu
27
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:13:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Right now they are working with basic concepts for game play.
They came up with a reasonable concept and a prototype to test.
The key word being prototype.
They may very well have found that their were some flaw's in the basic concept that require a change... or they may very well have found a way to may the game play even more unique to the EVE universe and don't want to make that information public just yet.
We knew going in this was going to take a while to get right, don't get impatient (and silly) about it now. They could implement multiplayer CQs. Not the whole nine yards of WiS with hawezome gameplay and shiny, just make baby steps to keep us content after they pissed on our face with Incarna. Also to keep spending money on WiS so it becomes more and more difficult to justify abandoning it. Because as we are now, they could plain remove the CQ from the client (they already stopped updating it), say "that was all folks" and call it a day until there is a new chance to implement WiS once DUST makes big bucks and WoD is at full production speed and can share some resources with granny EVE.Because, you know, we the WiSers are "expendable" customers. Or so they think, and hang me if I know how to prove them wrong. 
Actually seems like the best course of action.
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Marcus Licinius Crassus
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:17:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:CCP Bayesian wrote:Keep on being vocal about what you want to see happening in EVE.
We're not stopping work on anything, just not allowed to talk as openly as we have been and would like to about what we have been working on. I appreciate that's frustrating to everyone but we are going to continue working with everyone here at CCP to get something out there that shows you what we've been up to. It's important to me and the rest of Team Avatar too because we are proud of our work, think it's cool and want you guys to see it to demonstrate that we aren't all mouth and no trousers. The year was 2006. We saw this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzZRRPPw_QEthen in 2009 we saw this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18Ain 2011 we got this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eoo8-7bowoit is more than half-way to 2013 - almost 7 years later - 7 years(it takes less time to make a whole new MMO) and we're still waiting on this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzZRRPPw_QE
Think this sums up nicely just how much of a joke this has become. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
658
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:23:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Right now they are working with basic concepts for game play.
They came up with a reasonable concept and a prototype to test.
The key word being prototype.
They may very well have found that their were some flaw's in the basic concept that require a change... or they may very well have found a way to may the game play even more unique to the EVE universe and don't want to make that information public just yet.
We knew going in this was going to take a while to get right, don't get impatient (and silly) about it now. your guess is as good as any Bc of the sudden decision of not allowing the blog TA made by some management pricks without even telling, why .We are left in the dark about it.......again There's little point releasing a dev blog about something that isn't going to be even close to a playable release in the next 12 months, and CCP has a poor record when they've done similar 'long term forecasting' in the past. And going by this thread, all they'd get in response is posts about "management pricks" and "ccp lying to us" and "lets shoot statues and unsubscribe in protest".
i didn,t ask for a forecast of something ask for something that was promised and ready to post LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!-á |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
689
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:46:00 -
[883] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:There's little point releasing a dev blog about something that isn't going to be even close to a playable release in the next 12 months, and CCP has a poor record when they've done similar 'long term forecasting' in the past. And going by this thread, all they'd get in response is posts about "management pricks" and "ccp lying to us" and "lets shoot statues and unsubscribe in protest". i didn,t ask for a forecast, i did ask for something that was promised and ready to post The thing that was promised and ready to post was a forecast.
hth
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
658
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:49:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:There's little point releasing a dev blog about something that isn't going to be even close to a playable release in the next 12 months, and CCP has a poor record when they've done similar 'long term forecasting' in the past. And going by this thread, all they'd get in response is posts about "management pricks" and "ccp lying to us" and "lets shoot statues and unsubscribe in protest". i didn,t ask for a forecast, i did ask for something that was promised and ready to post The thing that was promised and ready to post was a forecast. hth
:) nice one LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!-á |

Flamespar
Woof Club
417
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:34:00 -
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Given that the prototype work has already been shown at a number of fan gatherings, and can be found on youtube, I would have thought it would make sense to do a dev blog since it's already been made somewhat public already I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
46
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Posted - 2012.08.12 23:13:00 -
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Its another way to interact, Grumpy Eve players don't want that cause it will give players hiding in a station something to do. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
934
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Posted - 2012.08.12 23:37:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Given that the prototype work has already been shown at a number of fan gatherings, and can be found on youtube, I would have thought it would make sense to do a dev blog since it's already been made somewhat public already Yah... I had a bit of a schadenfreude chuckle at the expense of Team Avatar. I mean, those guys are chomping at the bit to do it. They are so excited about it, and are so creative and through in their design methodology (from what I can tell / imho). I mean I'm disappointed corporate is so out of the loop and impeding progress... but I can't even begin to imagine how disappointed Team Avatar was about getting muzzled. The Devs in general get it and have been doing a great job on EvE of late. Now perhaps it's time for capsuleers to aim their blasters at the pencilneck VC companies that actually own CCP.
I wonder what would happen if a collection of players bought shares of CCP. If they were publicly traded I think the CSM could take on a whole new meaning.
Keep fighting the good fight Team Avatar. I for one would love to see you get your way. 
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Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
179
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Posted - 2012.08.13 03:53:00 -
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Can't get this thought out of my head.
Dust players, new to the EVE universe, are going to be wandering about stations, visiting with each other, making conections, planning battles. They will likely be just socializing too.
So, at what point do they interact with Classic EVE players? Will they have to contact them through the forums?
Will they even bother trying to get to know any Classic EVE players, if they have to use forums or text chat while they themselfs can walk about chatting with voice?
It is going to be a tragic mistake if Classic EVE players and Dust514 players are not able to walk on stations together and connect from day one of the Dust release. So much opportunity will be lost.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
919
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Posted - 2012.08.13 04:03:00 -
[889] - Quote
Soulpirate wrote:Can't get this thought out of my head.
Dust players, new to the EVE universe, are going to be wandering about stations, visiting with each other, making conections, planning battles. They will likely be just socializing too.
So, at what point do they interact with Classic EVE players? Will they have to contact them through the forums?
Will they even bother trying to get to know any Classic EVE players, if they have to use forums or text chat while they themselfs can walk about chatting with voice?
It is going to be a tragic mistake if Classic EVE players and Dust514 players are not able to walk on stations together and connect from day one of the Dust release. So much opportunity will be lost.
Especially as they will supposedly be able to be in the same corps as us (although maybe not right away..) and call us in for orbital strikes. At least we will be sharing chat channels and eve voice.
As a WiS feature, a common "War room" would be nice.
But.. Its not clear if they will see each other anywhere other than the surface of a planet. In station they get quarters much like our CQ. Their door may well be locked too. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
180
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Posted - 2012.08.13 04:10:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:But.. Its not clear if they will see each other anywhere other than the surface of a planet. In station they get quarters much like our CQ. Their door may well be locked too.
They have social areas. 
While we, who have paved the way for them, will need to wait 2-3 more years for such a feature.
It`s such a frustrating load of crap. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
919
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Posted - 2012.08.13 04:19:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:But.. Its not clear if they will see each other anywhere other than the surface of a planet. In station they get quarters much like our CQ. Their door may well be locked too. They have social areas.  While we, who have paved the way for them, will need to wait 2-3 more years for such a feature. It`s such a frustrating load of crap. Really? I hope you did not violate a NDA there....
But maybe getting us into those same areas is going to happen when Dust goes public, and the reason for the dev blog disappearing. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Ghazu
27
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:41:00 -
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Don't get too excited, it's just some playstation home freakshow crap. sony probably threatened ccp to include it. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
556
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:45:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Soulpirate wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:But.. Its not clear if they will see each other anywhere other than the surface of a planet. In station they get quarters much like our CQ. Their door may well be locked too. They have social areas.  While we, who have paved the way for them, will need to wait 2-3 more years for such a feature. It`s such a frustrating load of crap. Really? I hope you did not violate a NDA there.... But maybe getting us into those same areas is going to happen when Dust goes public, and the reason for the dev blog disappearing.
NDA or not, it is public that dust bunnies will get bars to gather and play Slay (that board game CCP showed in Fanfest 2010 Incarna demo) as a part of the PSN content. If i was in the mood to feel any more bitter about WiS, this fact alone would fill a good chunk of my cup. 
Now just tell us that dust bunnies will have a right click menu to swap their clothes as opposed to entering CC, redo their char and redo their avatar to as much as change their shoes, and I may actually become more bitter about WiS...
CCP: "You see, we wanted EVE to be like this, but instead we gave you a prison cell and delivered Incarna to dust bunnies..."  "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |

Flamespar
Woof Club
418
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Posted - 2012.08.13 07:17:00 -
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Its funny, but in one sense, Dust514 makes social areas a certainty, as EVE and Dust players will need to meet somewhere to socialise and create their evil empires.
I'm guessing that this won't happen until the CREST interface is done. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Flamespar
Woof Club
420
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Posted - 2012.08.13 07:50:00 -
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Maybe the Devs should consider doing a Kickstarter fund for Incarna, we donate Aurum to the project (in return for exclusive in game rewards) and if we reach the target goal CCP implements a feature for Incarna. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
595
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Posted - 2012.08.13 07:53:00 -
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Ccp likes threads that get likes so start liking posts that u agree with. The Like button is over there --> and up a lil bit. <3 |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
1862
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Posted - 2012.08.13 07:59:00 -
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You know? I even would support a kickstart for this... "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |

Pipa Porto
700
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Posted - 2012.08.13 08:01:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Maybe the Devs should consider doing a Kickstarter fund for Incarna, we donate Aurum to the project (in return for exclusive in game rewards) and if we reach the target goal CCP implements a feature for Incarna.
Wait, so you donate Aurum (remember, most of that 5500 everyone got is unspent). You get stuff equal in value to that Aurum (exclusivity = High Price). Then CCP spends more money on Incarna for you.
I don't think you're clear on how "Fundraising" works. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Via Shivon
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.08.13 08:02:00 -
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+1
WiS is a biiiig disappointment - waiting for it since i startet eve 2008 :(
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Ghazu
29
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Posted - 2012.08.13 08:04:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Flamespar wrote:Maybe the Devs should consider doing a Kickstarter fund for Incarna, we donate Aurum to the project (in return for exclusive in game rewards) and if we reach the target goal CCP implements a feature for Incarna. Wait, so you donate Aurum (remember, most of that 5500 everyone got is unspent). You get stuff equal in value to that Aurum (exclusivity = High Price). Then CCP spends more money on Incarna for you. I don't think you're clear on how "Fundraising" works. A kickstarter would be fine. But I think you're underestimating how much money it would require to hire a staff to put out more Incarna faster without taking more resources away from FIS.
maybe that's things work in barbie world. |
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