Wait, so you donate Aurum (remember, most of that 5500 everyone got is unspent). You get stuff equal in value to that Aurum (exclusivity = High Price). Then CCP spends more money on Incarna for you.

I don't think you're clear on how "Fundraising" works.

A kickstarter would be fine. But I think you're underestimating how much money it would require to hire a staff to put out more Incarna faster without taking more resources away from FIS.

Here let me make it much simpler for you.

Donate Aurum tokens

That is all.

True, in terms of where we are it is just after the big summer exodus in the office and internally we're marshaling together the plan for the next few months in terms of what we will put together and release. Sleeve tattoos are definitely on the list for consideration with a big star and lots of arrows pointing at it. When we know precisely we'll let you guys know.

I don't really think CCP needes more money to do WiS properly but a fundraiser would certainly make a point in how much the community wants it.

Sometimes, working the forums is not enough.

Remeber "Retake Mass Effect"? Well, I was part of it, and setting up these "child's play" donations really turned a few heads.^^

How do you think that would work if we did something similar in EVE?

Dunno, really... with "retake", we had most of the, very vocal community on our side, so BioWare finally cracked and gave us "the Extended Cut"... sure, I'm not as cocky as to claim they ONLY did it for/bacause of "us"... but it gave the whole matter media attention...

I'd say, it depends on how determined the EVE community is to pull something like that off...

I think the EVE Community showed exactly how determined it can be to make noise... last summer.


Oh...

That's the thing, it seams that the EVE community is pretty divided on that topic...

That's the thing, it seams that the EVE community is pretty divided on that topic...

Pipa is being a bit cheeky, in that she fails to mention that part of the reason for the rage was that we didn't get the Incarna we had be promised for the last 6 years.

Pro-Incarna players were pissed off and were part of those riots as well.

we can talk about as much as we want,but we will be left in the dark about WIS .

CCP policy as is.

And please, please, pretty please, leave the goddamn cash shop out of it. That's the last thing EVE needs more of.

Agreed... that should be taken out of the game... not the shop (well maybe that too) but if anything along a petition fundraiser should happen.

you want to fund something ,even if CCP is so passionately silent about it?

As I stated, it's about media attention... so I would choose something cheritable instead... aside the other reasons why that is a good thing in general.

I've got bad news about the devblog we promised. It's been swallowed by the black hole of corporateness and won't be seeing the light of day for the foreseeable future.

That is a ballsy thing to write.

Hopefully you don't get yourself into any hot water over this public disagreement with your bosses.

I'm impressed with your words and the demo you showed at a Russian player-meet. Exciting stuff.

Just let it go. There will not be any new avatar gameplay added for a long time so if the FIS content isn't good enough to keep you entertained, take a break from eve and stop giving CCP your money. That's the only way you can really send a message.

Just let it go. There will not be any new avatar gameplay added for a long time so if the FIS content isn't good enough to keep you entertained, take a break from eve and stop giving CCP your money. That's the only way you can really send a message.

...I know, people like to say stuff like that, but when has that actually worked the last couple of years?

Last summer.

Unless you're one of those people who believed that CCP were swayed by shooting a statue, and not by the tens of thousands of unsubscriptions.

I think you need to be part of CCPs management to see a subscription curve. All we get is the number of accounts logged in, which has been relatively flat.

PLEX for WiS? I like the idea. But I tried to guess what it would take. 10 Devs for 6 months might be a minimum to push out something, and that would be about 50,000 PLEX, which is 3 to 4 weeks of volume at Jita.

Oh, and given the free giveaway Aurum and Aurum tokens, it would most likely have to be PLEX. Its the only thing in game directly tied to real money.

Edit: If we want to find if we can do this, I suggest Petitions.