Only in that Dust is on Sisi. Apparently there is something called the Event Horizon Lounge the dust players enter. In there are other avatars and even an NPC in it that looks like an Eve avatar that is wearing the same top-outer my avatar has.

I believe the Incarna engine IS the Unreal Engine, albeit modified. It would be pretty cool if they were able to port the Dust engine into Eve for Walking/Fighting in Stations.

Many good arguments both for and against wis here. I just want to set up my little tobacco shop down by the exhaust pipes.
All the way down, under the ship deck.

Maybe sell some boosters on the side? On ocation i would even stop by the casino on the top floor. This would be awesome sauce imo. Too bad it will probably never happen..

Are you trolling or they've finished the server updates since shutting down SiSi on Aug. 17th

I would not serve you any boosters unless you gave me some cookies from the NPC marketplace.

Or maybe you could get a better contract (a private contract) in exhcange for something you could do as an avatar.

Players could ask little errands form other players -or big tasks, face to face. Privately.

Noobs could earn their first ISK dealing with veteran playrs in shops. Or paying to attend private lessons in corporate schoolrooms.

You know, "barbies emoting each other" as the Goontrolls use to parrot in this thread...

Here's a good argument against WiS. Look at my sig. When I quit playing in Eve, they were talking about the new Walking in Stations stuff. That was 4 friggin years ago....... swallow that bit, 4 years ago. Walking in Stations was the bit they were bragging about for the expansion that was to be released shortly after I quit playing. I come back and WiS is a room and a walkway.


A room and a walkway. That's it. Many games get conceptualized, developed and release in that amount of time. In the same amount of time, we got a room. I did an entire stint in the US Army during my hiatus, and this is what we have.

They are not done, but according to the Eve-online status monitor site, Sisi has been up with over 1000 players on it. I can only assume they are Dust players as we cannot get on it. Most likely some are Devs on the Eve side seeing what happens when Dust and Eve share one server with a linked database, and fixing issues.

I do not know how the Even Horizon Lounge fits in. On the You-tube video you can see an Eve like avatar for an NPC, a window looking at a planet, and a room that contains the game Slay. The video was showing "how to get your Dust code" so its not clear from it if once you get your code if you can ever return to the lounge. But if you cannot you are locked out of the game Slay, which supposedly if you win you get a free drop suit. That makes me think there is a way to get back there.

Once you are in Dust there is some sort of staging room that your team forms up in before starting a fight. That's in a station, so it is multiple avatars walking in station, on Sisi, right now.

Spaceships are not needed for a spaceship game either. When I was at CalTech we had multi-player spaceship combat games which were all text. No graphics of ships, no textures, no engine trails, and so on. Just tables of numbers.

Graphics of spaceships are not needed for space combat. We can do with just windows of text. But the game is far better with those graphics.

In the same way, avatars are not needed for personal interaction between players. We could do with just windows of text. But I think the game would be far better with those graphics.

Spaceships are not needed for a spaceship game either. When I was at CalTech we had multi-player spaceship combat games which were all text. No graphics of ships, no textures, no engine trails, and so on. Just tables of numbers.

Graphics of spaceships are not needed for space combat. We can do with just windows of text. But the game is far better with those graphics.

In the same way, avatars are not needed for personal interaction between players. We could do with just windows of text. But I think the game would be far better with those graphics.

Edit: In a couple of days when we get Sisi back I'd be stunned if the door is anything but locked. I see it being open as a possibility, but quite unlikely.

The emote room concept people keep pushing for here is a waste of resources that could be better used on FIS or Team Avatar's dungeons.

ALL I WANNA KNOW IS:

WHEN CAN I /DANCE???

This is still en-route and I'm currently trying to unclog the pipes that are holding the dev blog up. It's been delayed for so long now I'm going to update the pictures on it to something that's more representative of the current state of things!

You're correct though the gameplay we've been prototyping is based around cooperative gameplay in a hazardous environment. You'd be cooperating both in space and in the structure you were all walking around in though and there would still be the potential for conflict with other people in the structures you are exploring.

We're pretty excited about what we've come up with internally.

This sounds so fantastic I'm having a glorious stiffy.

Are you trolling or they've finished the server updates since shutting down SiSi on Aug. 17th

Sisi only went down for a day. (The 17th). It's being tested with only dust players for the time being.

It might benefit you to actually read the dust forums.

To clear things up:
Event Horizon is on PS home. It's unrelated to EVE and DUST universes. It uses the PS home avatar system.

DUST does have it's own WiS and CQ, which are currently on SiSi, but we don't know how visible it will be to Eve players, if at all.

Anyone notice the screenshots of building interiors on the Dust514 website? It got me thinking that it would make a lot of sense for CCP to reuse these art assets in EVE as it would both ease the burden on the art department (since these assets have been done by the Dust team) and it also makes sense since when we are in stations we will be in the same environment anyway.

It's not that easy. Albeit they could import the geometry, the tough work is with texture, lighting and effects, and all those are related to the engine and can't be exported from DUST to EVE or vice versa.

Actually, one of the moot points with having en engine for DUST and another for EVE is that building the same stuff in both games would require 180% of the work of building it for only one of them. It's not like doing everything twice, but almost.

In a sense, EVE is too good for its own good, as if EVE used DUST's off-the-shelve engine, developing WiS for EVE would be quite faster and easier. Put bluntly, you need top notch dvelopers to make EVE, whereas the industry is full of people who can do a great work with standard engines, for a fraction of the cost, and in places like Shanghai. Standing on the shoulder of giants it's easier than being a giant yourself.

It's not that easy. Albeit they could import the geometry, the tough work is with texture, lighting and effects, and all those are related to the engine and can't be exported from DUST to EVE or vice versa.

Actually, one of the moot points with having en engine for DUST and another for EVE is that building the same stuff in both games would require 180% of the work of building it for only one of them. It's not like doing everything twice, but almost.

In a sense, EVE is too good for its own good, as if EVE used DUST's off-the-shelve engine, developing WiS for EVE would be quite faster and easier. Put bluntly, you need top notch dvelopers to make EVE, whereas the industry is full of people who can do a great work with standard engines, for a fraction of the cost, and in places like Shanghai. Standing on the shoulder of giants it's easier than being a giant yourself.

"You feed the two engines the art work and geometry..."

That could be quite easy, or it could be a nightmare. The way the geometry is described might be totally incompatible between the two graphics engines, or quite compatible, or anything in between.

There is an NPC eve-like avatar in the event horizon lounge, one that wears the same top-outer as my avatar wears. So it is possible to migrate art assets from eve to PS3, but was that a one time really difficult dev hack, or was it easy?

I sure hope its easy, as it increases the chance that we get some sort of WiS sooner rather than later.