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ShunToch
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Posted - 2004.11.25 20:02:00 -
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Prior to installing exodus the game worked great on my laptop afterwards I have a problem where when I leave a station the game will freeze. I have left the game running for up to 20 mins to see if it is a lag problem but it is still frozen. I have to exit the game via ctrl+alt+del. Anyone have a idea what it is that is causing this? I have installed updated vid drivers for the ATI Radeon Mobile 9200 in this laptop and same thing. I want to note all else in the game works good so far. Ohh one more thing, keep in mind I have Windows service pack 2 installed as well if that helps or hurts any. |
ShunToch
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Posted - 2004.11.25 20:02:00 -
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Prior to installing exodus the game worked great on my laptop afterwards I have a problem where when I leave a station the game will freeze. I have left the game running for up to 20 mins to see if it is a lag problem but it is still frozen. I have to exit the game via ctrl+alt+del. Anyone have a idea what it is that is causing this? I have installed updated vid drivers for the ATI Radeon Mobile 9200 in this laptop and same thing. I want to note all else in the game works good so far. Ohh one more thing, keep in mind I have Windows service pack 2 installed as well if that helps or hurts any. |
Kagetora
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Posted - 2004.11.25 20:58:00 -
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I can't really help, but only comment that the same thing happens to me. It's very frustrating.
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Kagetora
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Posted - 2004.11.25 20:58:00 -
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I can't really help, but only comment that the same thing happens to me. It's very frustrating.
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.25 21:35:00 -
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 Originally by: ShunToch
Prior to installing exodus the game worked great on my laptop afterwards I have a problem where when I leave a station the game will freeze. I have left the game running for up to 20 mins to see if it is a lag problem but it is still frozen. I have to exit the game via ctrl+alt+del. Anyone have a idea what it is that is causing this? I have installed updated vid drivers for the ATI Radeon Mobile 9200 in this laptop and same thing. I want to note all else in the game works good so far. Ohh one more thing, keep in mind I have Windows service pack 2 installed as well if that helps or hurts any.
Hmmm exactly the same story for me aswell, fine b4 shiva but now the laptop on exiting stations it just freezes. :(
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.25 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: ShunToch
Prior to installing exodus the game worked great on my laptop afterwards I have a problem where when I leave a station the game will freeze. I have left the game running for up to 20 mins to see if it is a lag problem but it is still frozen. I have to exit the game via ctrl+alt+del. Anyone have a idea what it is that is causing this? I have installed updated vid drivers for the ATI Radeon Mobile 9200 in this laptop and same thing. I want to note all else in the game works good so far. Ohh one more thing, keep in mind I have Windows service pack 2 installed as well if that helps or hurts any.
Hmmm exactly the same story for me aswell, fine b4 shiva but now the laptop on exiting stations it just freezes. :(
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www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
Naomi Venture
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Posted - 2004.11.25 21:45:00 -
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I'm not playing on a laptop, but I get this bug too. Happens about 50-75 percent of station departures. I can't even Ctrl-Alt-Del. I have to reset my computer.
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Naomi Venture
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Posted - 2004.11.25 21:45:00 -
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I'm not playing on a laptop, but I get this bug too. Happens about 50-75 percent of station departures. I can't even Ctrl-Alt-Del. I have to reset my computer.
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Nicolai Ivanovich
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Posted - 2004.11.25 22:41:00 -
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I get the same bug too.
Since I run in windowed mode, I can see from the Performance Monitor that the CPU is 100% used - so the code has got itself into an infinite loop, rather than it stuck waiting for something.
For what its worth, I am also running on a laptop, with XP SP2 installed, and an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 graphics card.
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Nicolai Ivanovich
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Posted - 2004.11.25 22:41:00 -
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I get the same bug too.
Since I run in windowed mode, I can see from the Performance Monitor that the CPU is 100% used - so the code has got itself into an infinite loop, rather than it stuck waiting for something.
For what its worth, I am also running on a laptop, with XP SP2 installed, and an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 graphics card.
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Naomi Venture
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Posted - 2004.11.25 22:47:00 -
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Hum. ATI Raedon 9000 Sapphire here. Wonder if it's the video card?
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Naomi Venture
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Posted - 2004.11.25 22:47:00 -
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Hum. ATI Raedon 9000 Sapphire here. Wonder if it's the video card?
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.25 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Venture
Hum. ATI Raedon 9000 Sapphire here. Wonder if it's the video card?
ATI Radeon 9000 mobility here, and same problem as i said above.
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www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.25 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Venture
Hum. ATI Raedon 9000 Sapphire here. Wonder if it's the video card?
ATI Radeon 9000 mobility here, and same problem as i said above.
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www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.11.26 00:31:00 -
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same problem here. Except that the freeze seems to happen when i exit staiton and try to warp anywhere. Game freezes and most of the time i have to restart the laptop. Also running ati mobility 9000.
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[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.11.26 00:31:00 -
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same problem here. Except that the freeze seems to happen when i exit staiton and try to warp anywhere. Game freezes and most of the time i have to restart the laptop. Also running ati mobility 9000.
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.11.26 01:46:00 -
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Hi folks,
Same exact problem--fine before Exodus, but now I'm crashing after 90% of undockings (over 20-30 times total thus far).
Using a new laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 as well. In-game is fine and enjoyable... but this bug makes it tough on us mission-runners (hopefully it's a "bug" and resolvable...). Tried windowed/full, drivers, everything I could think of so far...
-T
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.11.26 01:46:00 -
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Hi folks,
Same exact problem--fine before Exodus, but now I'm crashing after 90% of undockings (over 20-30 times total thus far).
Using a new laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 as well. In-game is fine and enjoyable... but this bug makes it tough on us mission-runners (hopefully it's a "bug" and resolvable...). Tried windowed/full, drivers, everything I could think of so far...
-T
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Boltar
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Posted - 2004.11.26 02:21:00 -
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Another one here, not on a laptop but I do do run a radeon 9000 series card and have SP2 installed. I can normaly cntrl-alt-del out and I also see the proc pegged at 100%.
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Boltar
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Posted - 2004.11.26 02:21:00 -
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Another one here, not on a laptop but I do do run a radeon 9000 series card and have SP2 installed. I can normaly cntrl-alt-del out and I also see the proc pegged at 100%.
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Alerus Aegus
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:52:00 -
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Have the same problem. Using Radeon 9200 graphic card.
Enyone found the solution yet? It really makes almost imposible to play.
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Alerus Aegus
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:52:00 -
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Have the same problem. Using Radeon 9200 graphic card.
Enyone found the solution yet? It really makes almost imposible to play.
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Marius Reeve
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Posted - 2004.11.26 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Marius Reeve on 26/11/2004 16:36:02
same story here as well - running a radeon 9200 - makes it really frustrating to do anything except sit in station
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Marius Reeve
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Posted - 2004.11.26 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Marius Reeve on 26/11/2004 16:36:02
same story here as well - running a radeon 9200 - makes it really frustrating to do anything except sit in station
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.11.26 17:51:00 -
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Oh dear
Well I run Eve on a desktop runing Win98SE and a Radeon 9200 chipset card
Begining to look like ATI cards are the weak link here.
1 in 3 undockings (ish) results in a lock up
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.11.26 17:51:00 -
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Oh dear
Well I run Eve on a desktop runing Win98SE and a Radeon 9200 chipset card
Begining to look like ATI cards are the weak link here.
1 in 3 undockings (ish) results in a lock up
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Hmmm I need a Sig |
Boltar
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:13:00 -
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I'm not sure if it is luck or not , but I upgraded to the latest catalyst drivers and so far so good. I've only done about 5 docking/un-dockings & about 30 gates (which i did freeze at before also) and so far so good.
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Boltar
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:13:00 -
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I'm not sure if it is luck or not , but I upgraded to the latest catalyst drivers and so far so good. I've only done about 5 docking/un-dockings & about 30 gates (which i did freeze at before also) and so far so good.
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HaytKir
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Posted - 2004.11.26 23:03:00 -
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I have a Mobility Radeon 9000 with latest drivers (just double checked), WinXP Prof with SP2 and I noticed the same problem when undocking. A further thing I noticed is that it behaves the same way whenever I have a station of any sort on the screen. If when I first undock I have a chance to swing my view off into space so my camera does not show the station then I can dock and undock fine, however, if I am just a little slow then it freezes. Perhaps it is somehow related to the drawing or rendering of stations...
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HaytKir
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Posted - 2004.11.26 23:03:00 -
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I have a Mobility Radeon 9000 with latest drivers (just double checked), WinXP Prof with SP2 and I noticed the same problem when undocking. A further thing I noticed is that it behaves the same way whenever I have a station of any sort on the screen. If when I first undock I have a chance to swing my view off into space so my camera does not show the station then I can dock and undock fine, however, if I am just a little slow then it freezes. Perhaps it is somehow related to the drawing or rendering of stations...
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.27 01:10:00 -
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Im still having the problem :(
Drivers all upto date aswell. As someone said hopefully it will be sorted soon :)
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www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.27 01:10:00 -
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Im still having the problem :(
Drivers all upto date aswell. As someone said hopefully it will be sorted soon :)
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http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site.
www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.11.27 01:19:00 -
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Try this........
Soon as ya exit a station pan the camera so you are looking down.. should free up FPS and than coast like that for a few than try warping or doing whatever.
I exited a station 10 times today and crashed probably 10 times so started tryin that and it seems to be workin better now for me.
Hope that helps
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.11.27 01:19:00 -
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Try this........
Soon as ya exit a station pan the camera so you are looking down.. should free up FPS and than coast like that for a few than try warping or doing whatever.
I exited a station 10 times today and crashed probably 10 times so started tryin that and it seems to be workin better now for me.
Hope that helps
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.27 09:12:00 -
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Been trying that in a way, i left it to move away from station for 30 seconds and ive been fine. Fingers crossed it carrys on :)
Cheers m8
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http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site.
www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.11.27 09:12:00 -
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Been trying that in a way, i left it to move away from station for 30 seconds and ive been fine. Fingers crossed it carrys on :)
Cheers m8
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http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site.
www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history. |
WindShadow
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Posted - 2004.11.27 10:40:00 -
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I'm having the same problem. I have a Radeon 9200.
I noticed that the game just crashes to the desktop instead of freezing when in full-screen mode. That makes it a lot easier to log back in.
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WindShadow
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Posted - 2004.11.27 10:40:00 -
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I'm having the same problem. I have a Radeon 9200.
I noticed that the game just crashes to the desktop instead of freezing when in full-screen mode. That makes it a lot easier to log back in.
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Barek Ironfist
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Posted - 2004.11.27 12:33:00 -
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I'm having the same problem to on my laptop, running a 9000 igp graphics card.
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Barek Ironfist
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Posted - 2004.11.27 12:33:00 -
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I'm having the same problem to on my laptop, running a 9000 igp graphics card.
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2004.11.27 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Wuubaa on 27/11/2004 12:44:05
Yep same problem here. Running ATI 9000 mobility. Up to date drivers. Usually happens when i go to warp after exiting station.
Tho i did start trying the "letting it fly for a bit" trick and it seemed to not crash. Only undocked twice tho.
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2004.11.27 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Wuubaa on 27/11/2004 12:44:05
Yep same problem here. Running ATI 9000 mobility. Up to date drivers. Usually happens when i go to warp after exiting station.
Tho i did start trying the "letting it fly for a bit" trick and it seemed to not crash. Only undocked twice tho.
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Demetrius Maura
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Posted - 2004.11.27 12:42:00 -
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same problem here also only just strated happening to was working yesterday
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Demetrius Maura
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Posted - 2004.11.27 12:42:00 -
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same problem here also only just strated happening to was working yesterday
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GM Rendo
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:59:00 -
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This seems to be driver related to me. Since most of you have ATi cards running on labtops and we all know how often laptop manufacturers upgrade their drivers I would like you to try out the drivers available here
<http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv%20mobility.htm>. These drivers are modded specifically for the mobility cards so they might help.
/Cheers
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GM Rendo
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:59:00 -
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This seems to be driver related to me. Since most of you have ATi cards running on labtops and we all know how often laptop manufacturers upgrade their drivers I would like you to try out the drivers available here
<http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv%20mobility.htm>. These drivers are modded specifically for the mobility cards so they might help.
/Cheers
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Weavers
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Posted - 2004.11.27 20:58:00 -
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yep ditto--game frozen at gates, in space, transistion scenes, undocking, ect. no responce to mouse or keyboard commands. Ah well... they'll get it fixed. Enjoying the new scenes alot good job ccp -- luck on the debugging
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Weavers
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Posted - 2004.11.27 20:58:00 -
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yep ditto--game frozen at gates, in space, transistion scenes, undocking, ect. no responce to mouse or keyboard commands. Ah well... they'll get it fixed. Enjoying the new scenes alot good job ccp -- luck on the debugging
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lolllll
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Posted - 2004.11.27 21:06:00 -
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Yup exaclty the same prob here. This is sooooo ****ing me off.
/emote hopes that ccp will deploy another hotfix patch wich will solve this.
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lolllll
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Posted - 2004.11.27 21:06:00 -
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Yup exaclty the same prob here. This is sooooo ****ing me off.
/emote hopes that ccp will deploy another hotfix patch wich will solve this.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.27 21:19:00 -
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Hi,
i'm having the same problem and my laptop manifacturer (Acer) only has the driver I use now for download and i'm not sure i want to risk downloading 3rd party drivers..too risky :)
Well, i hope it gets fixed, as i like the game and dont want to leave it over this :(
CU,
Nevyn
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.27 21:19:00 -
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Hi,
i'm having the same problem and my laptop manifacturer (Acer) only has the driver I use now for download and i'm not sure i want to risk downloading 3rd party drivers..too risky :)
Well, i hope it gets fixed, as i like the game and dont want to leave it over this :(
CU,
Nevyn
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WindShadow
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Posted - 2004.11.27 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: GM Rendo
This seems to be driver related to me. Since most of you have ATi cards running on labtops and we all know how often laptop manufacturers upgrade their drivers I would like you to try out the drivers available here
<http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv%20mobility.htm>. These drivers are modded specifically for the mobility cards so they might help.
/Cheers
Do you have a solution for those of us who aren't using laptops? |
WindShadow
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Posted - 2004.11.27 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: GM Rendo
This seems to be driver related to me. Since most of you have ATi cards running on labtops and we all know how often laptop manufacturers upgrade their drivers I would like you to try out the drivers available here
<http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv%20mobility.htm>. These drivers are modded specifically for the mobility cards so they might help.
/Cheers
Do you have a solution for those of us who aren't using laptops? |
Konshu
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Posted - 2004.11.28 00:15:00 -
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Well...just went to ATI's site and grabbed an update for my Radeon 9100. I undocked from my home base and it was successful ( think it's the 1st time i didn't lock up undocking from that station). Further testing required, but it's off to a good start 
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Konshu
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Posted - 2004.11.28 00:15:00 -
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Well...just went to ATI's site and grabbed an update for my Radeon 9100. I undocked from my home base and it was successful ( think it's the 1st time i didn't lock up undocking from that station). Further testing required, but it's off to a good start
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ArcticFox
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Posted - 2004.11.28 03:56:00 -
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Well, I have almost the same problem. It seems that I freeze completely (until I started playing in windowed mode it was to the point that I had to reboot, I couldn't even CTRL+ALT+DELETE) every so often. It's not right after undocking, sometimes I undock and make two or three jumps before freezing, but it seems to happen most often shortly after I dock for a short period of time and then undock and go on somewhere else. This is a pain for courier missions of course. It seems I already have the latest drivers for my ATI Radeon IGP 345M (I checked the site linked to and the only thing I could find was a downgrade). I'm hoping there will be some fix for this that doesn't involve updating drivers because if there isn't I'm totally screwed.
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ArcticFox
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Posted - 2004.11.28 03:56:00 -
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Well, I have almost the same problem. It seems that I freeze completely (until I started playing in windowed mode it was to the point that I had to reboot, I couldn't even CTRL+ALT+DELETE) every so often. It's not right after undocking, sometimes I undock and make two or three jumps before freezing, but it seems to happen most often shortly after I dock for a short period of time and then undock and go on somewhere else. This is a pain for courier missions of course. It seems I already have the latest drivers for my ATI Radeon IGP 345M (I checked the site linked to and the only thing I could find was a downgrade). I'm hoping there will be some fix for this that doesn't involve updating drivers because if there isn't I'm totally screwed.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.28 09:28:00 -
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Hello,
i tested a bit more, it seems that windowed mode is the best work-around:
*it *only* crashes to desktop, doesnt freeze the whole system
*If i fear a crash, during transit for example, i can always minimize the window, which works fine on my laptop, so no crashes then
Also, after leaving the station (where i had most of my crashes), turn the view to open space, as a few mentioned here,...or you can zoom out which also seems to ease the workload after undocking...
One last thing and this is only pure speculation, the graphics menu got extended by letting one choose the Z-buffering and the depth, does anyone know what that is for, just *maybe*, Radeon cards have problems there?
Something else i noticed, but also purely subjective, is that there seem to be less crashes when the workload on the servers are less, maybe the bug is a mix of latency and the graphic, luckless combination?
OK, just my thoughts
CU,
Nevyn
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.28 09:28:00 -
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Hello,
i tested a bit more, it seems that windowed mode is the best work-around:
*it *only* crashes to desktop, doesnt freeze the whole system
*If i fear a crash, during transit for example, i can always minimize the window, which works fine on my laptop, so no crashes then
Also, after leaving the station (where i had most of my crashes), turn the view to open space, as a few mentioned here,...or you can zoom out which also seems to ease the workload after undocking...
One last thing and this is only pure speculation, the graphics menu got extended by letting one choose the Z-buffering and the depth, does anyone know what that is for, just *maybe*, Radeon cards have problems there?
Something else i noticed, but also purely subjective, is that there seem to be less crashes when the workload on the servers are less, maybe the bug is a mix of latency and the graphic, luckless combination?
OK, just my thoughts
CU,
Nevyn
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Hirk Grodi
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Posted - 2004.11.28 10:17:00 -
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Same problems - eve process eats 100% cpu.
IBM R40 with ati radeon.
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Hirk Grodi
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Posted - 2004.11.28 10:17:00 -
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Same problems - eve process eats 100% cpu.
IBM R40 with ati radeon.
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Sebastian Iteran
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Posted - 2004.11.28 10:36:00 -
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I dont have the problem, but since this seems to be a graphic related error I just want to give this URL where you should be able to download modified/optimized catalyst drivers that works even for laptop. I work in a computer repair shop and i always use them for laptop with ATI chips, worked great so far.
Plz report here any success with them here so other ppl know it works.
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Sebastian Iteran
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Posted - 2004.11.28 10:36:00 -
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I dont have the problem, but since this seems to be a graphic related error I just want to give this URL where you should be able to download modified/optimized catalyst drivers that works even for laptop. I work in a computer repair shop and i always use them for laptop with ATI chips, worked great so far.
Plz report here any success with them here so other ppl know it works.
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lolllll
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Posted - 2004.11.28 11:41:00 -
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Hi; Knonshu.. I have a ATi Radeon 9100 aswell, suppose you can give me a link, I would really appriciate it. :)
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lolllll
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Posted - 2004.11.28 11:41:00 -
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Hi; Knonshu.. I have a ATi Radeon 9100 aswell, suppose you can give me a link, I would really appriciate it. :)
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.11.28 17:05:00 -
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I have a PC with Win 98 SE and ATI Radeon 8500. (yeah quite old i know). Windowed mode
I freeze mostly when getting out of a Station, sometimes, not always. I Thought didn't when getting into warp, since i've played 1 hour merely travelling and warping several systems and nothing, till now that i've freezed when warping in an asteroid belt just when i had left the station.
It's not only a laptop issue i think, and more an ATI one.
I didn't have any problem till now (only the usual lag one  )
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.11.28 17:05:00 -
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I have a PC with Win 98 SE and ATI Radeon 8500. (yeah quite old i know). Windowed mode
I freeze mostly when getting out of a Station, sometimes, not always. I Thought didn't when getting into warp, since i've played 1 hour merely travelling and warping several systems and nothing, till now that i've freezed when warping in an asteroid belt just when i had left the station.
It's not only a laptop issue i think, and more an ATI one.
I didn't have any problem till now (only the usual lag one )
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Venzon 2003
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Posted - 2004.11.28 19:16:00 -
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I have the same problem
My card is radeon 8500
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Venzon 2003
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Posted - 2004.11.28 19:16:00 -
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I have the same problem
My card is radeon 8500
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Akarah Siminova
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Posted - 2004.11.28 19:50:00 -
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Im also haveing semi frequent ctds running on a desktop with radeon 9800 pro. |
Akarah Siminova
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Posted - 2004.11.28 19:50:00 -
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Im also haveing semi frequent ctds running on a desktop with radeon 9800 pro. |
GM Rendo
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Posted - 2004.11.28 22:08:00 -
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One user reported that he fixed the problem by putting planetary details on medium/low. That user had a labtop with ATI 9000IGP Mobilty card. Give it a try
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GM Rendo
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Posted - 2004.11.28 22:08:00 -
[74]
One user reported that he fixed the problem by putting planetary details on medium/low. That user had a labtop with ATI 9000IGP Mobilty card. Give it a try
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.11.29 01:12:00 -
[75]
My experiments have yielded results similar to DrakipÆs (a few posts up). Zooming out immediately after undocking and when around stations, as well as keeping stations off camera when initializing warp, has let me crash after only ¢ of my undockings. Don't go near a station and you're fine...
IÆve tried setting my planetary details on medium and low. No help.
I hope this can be addressed without making ATI card laptop users download 3rd party drivers. ATI doesnÆt put out updated Catalysts for us, or I would have installed those (though even they may not solve the problem).
Still trying,
T
(64M ATI Mobility Radeon 9k)
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.11.29 01:12:00 -
[76]
My experiments have yielded results similar to DrakipÆs (a few posts up). Zooming out immediately after undocking and when around stations, as well as keeping stations off camera when initializing warp, has let me crash after only ¢ of my undockings. Don't go near a station and you're fine...
IÆve tried setting my planetary details on medium and low. No help.
I hope this can be addressed without making ATI card laptop users download 3rd party drivers. ATI doesnÆt put out updated Catalysts for us, or I would have installed those (though even they may not solve the problem).
Still trying,
T
(64M ATI Mobility Radeon 9k)
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Venzon 2003
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Posted - 2004.11.29 01:59:00 -
[77]
http://www.omegadrivers.net
I think this drivers solved my problem with freezing eve but I am not 100% sure.
Someone already posted link to this drivers before
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Venzon 2003
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Posted - 2004.11.29 01:59:00 -
[78]
http://www.omegadrivers.net
I think this drivers solved my problem with freezing eve but I am not 100% sure.
Someone already posted link to this drivers before
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ArcticFox
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Posted - 2004.11.29 04:12:00 -
[79]
From the number of posts and threads about this this seems to be one of the most common problems. Hopefully CCP will have a more official solution or patch to fix this soon. Tried a lot and I still freeze every time I dock for too short a period of time.
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"There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum... |
ArcticFox
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Posted - 2004.11.29 04:12:00 -
[80]
From the number of posts and threads about this this seems to be one of the most common problems. Hopefully CCP will have a more official solution or patch to fix this soon. Tried a lot and I still freeze every time I dock for too short a period of time.
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"There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum... |
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WindShadow
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Posted - 2004.11.29 07:16:00 -
[81]
Well, I upgraded to Catalyst 4.11, and I haven't had much trouble since. (ATI Radeon 9200, btw)
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WindShadow
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Posted - 2004.11.29 07:16:00 -
[82]
Well, I upgraded to Catalyst 4.11, and I haven't had much trouble since. (ATI Radeon 9200, btw)
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.11.29 17:08:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Venzon 2003
http://www.omegadrivers.net
I think this drivers solved my problem with freezing eve but I am not 100% sure.
Someone already posted link to this drivers before
the new drivers seemd to work for me. Played for a few hours last night without any crashes...
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.11.29 17:08:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Venzon 2003
http://www.omegadrivers.net
I think this drivers solved my problem with freezing eve but I am not 100% sure.
Someone already posted link to this drivers before
the new drivers seemd to work for me. Played for a few hours last night without any crashes...
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Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Irina Derechkova
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Posted - 2004.11.30 09:25:00 -
[85]
Up !
Hello,
Someone has found an issue for the ATI mobility 9000 ? I have installed the last Omega 2.5.90 (Catalyst 4.10) and i still freeze when i undock...
Thanks
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Irina Derechkova
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Posted - 2004.11.30 09:25:00 -
[86]
Up !
Hello,
Someone has found an issue for the ATI mobility 9000 ? I have installed the last Omega 2.5.90 (Catalyst 4.10) and i still freeze when i undock...
Thanks
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modena
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:48:00 -
[87]
I have a mobile 9200 and get the same problems, i am running the latest normal ATi drivers using a mod program. No problems in Castor. Going to try Omega drivers.
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modena
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:48:00 -
[88]
I have a mobile 9200 and get the same problems, i am running the latest normal ATi drivers using a mod program. No problems in Castor. Going to try Omega drivers.
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Ceti Lomax
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Posted - 2004.11.30 14:14:00 -
[89]
I was having this problem every time I undocked in a slowed ship.  (eg. My Hoarder) I have an ATI Radeon 9200. I installed the lastest Windows XP drivers (version 4.11) from the ATI web site, and the problem has completely disappeared. 
I did not install the full "Catalyst" version of the drivers, I saw a note on the ATI site that suggested that Catalyst should only be run on systems that contain a Radeon 9500, or better, video card.
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Ceti Lomax
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Posted - 2004.11.30 14:14:00 -
[90]
I was having this problem every time I undocked in a slowed ship. (eg. My Hoarder) I have an ATI Radeon 9200. I installed the lastest Windows XP drivers (version 4.11) from the ATI web site, and the problem has completely disappeared.
I did not install the full "Catalyst" version of the drivers, I saw a note on the ATI site that suggested that Catalyst should only be run on systems that contain a Radeon 9500, or better, video card.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.30 16:34:00 -
[91]
Hi,
does anyone have feedback from CCP about this, if they consider it a bug or a driver problem?
CU,
Nevyn
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.30 16:34:00 -
[92]
Hi,
does anyone have feedback from CCP about this, if they consider it a bug or a driver problem?
CU,
Nevyn
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Jonathan swat
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Posted - 2004.11.30 16:38:00 -
[93]
I have a ATI Mobility Radion 9200 ... and i have the same problem, i cant play the game ...
What we do in life echoes in Eternity |
Jonathan swat
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Posted - 2004.11.30 16:38:00 -
[94]
I have a ATI Mobility Radion 9200 ... and i have the same problem, i cant play the game ...
What we do in life echoes in Eternity |
Hung Odonkey
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Posted - 2004.11.30 17:20:00 -
[95]
Like you all I too have an ATI Radeon card. I too had the problem of freezing when exiting the station, however I have fixed my problem and with a few suggestions I hope I can help you all fix yours. My card, Original Radeon 64MB VIVO, was crashing constantly when exiting station. I tried tweaking some of the settings, completly reloading the EVE client but it wasn't until I updated my video drivers that the problem went away. By he way I am using XP and I do not have SP2 installed. This appears to be the solution, not anything to do with the EVE client. Now for those of you that are still having this problem even after upgrading I would suggest completly removing your ATI video drivers, that includes potentially doing some reg editing. I had to do this some time ago when I had a video problem with another one of my games. After removing them completly simply reinstall and with any luck you should be off and running.
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Hung Odonkey
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Posted - 2004.11.30 17:20:00 -
[96]
Like you all I too have an ATI Radeon card. I too had the problem of freezing when exiting the station, however I have fixed my problem and with a few suggestions I hope I can help you all fix yours. My card, Original Radeon 64MB VIVO, was crashing constantly when exiting station. I tried tweaking some of the settings, completly reloading the EVE client but it wasn't until I updated my video drivers that the problem went away. By he way I am using XP and I do not have SP2 installed. This appears to be the solution, not anything to do with the EVE client. Now for those of you that are still having this problem even after upgrading I would suggest completly removing your ATI video drivers, that includes potentially doing some reg editing. I had to do this some time ago when I had a video problem with another one of my games. After removing them completly simply reinstall and with any luck you should be off and running.
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Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.11.30 19:51:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Nikodaemonicus on 30/11/2004 19:55:45
I don't freeze or crash at stations. I do freeze at NPC spawns, and a lot. My EVE starts using 99% cpu and all is freezed. I already lost 1 apoc due to this. And it's happening me always when I am on a spawn and/or a mater warps to where am I.
I have tried everything and nothing works. Do log server will record what's happening to me when my eve freezes near an NPC spawn or will I waste my time and pacience (and faith) ?
---> ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 Mb
1,5 Gb DDR RAM
P4 - 2,54Ghz 800 FSB
Sound Blaster Live!
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Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.11.30 19:51:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Nikodaemonicus on 30/11/2004 19:55:45
I don't freeze or crash at stations. I do freeze at NPC spawns, and a lot. My EVE starts using 99% cpu and all is freezed. I already lost 1 apoc due to this. And it's happening me always when I am on a spawn and/or a mater warps to where am I.
I have tried everything and nothing works. Do log server will record what's happening to me when my eve freezes near an NPC spawn or will I waste my time and pacience (and faith) ?
---> ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 Mb
1,5 Gb DDR RAM
P4 - 2,54Ghz 800 FSB
Sound Blaster Live!
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Naomi Venture
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Posted - 2004.11.30 21:06:00 -
[99]
Switched to Catalyst 4.10 drivers and haven't had the crash happen today... yet.
ATI Sapphire 9000 with Windows 98.
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Naomi Venture
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Posted - 2004.11.30 21:06:00 -
[100]
Switched to Catalyst 4.10 drivers and haven't had the crash happen today... yet.
ATI Sapphire 9000 with Windows 98.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.30 21:25:00 -
[101]
Hello,
well there seems to be a patch planned for wednesday..maybe it will help :)
CU,
Nevyn
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.11.30 21:25:00 -
[102]
Hello,
well there seems to be a patch planned for wednesday..maybe it will help :)
CU,
Nevyn
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Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2004.11.30 22:22:00 -
[103]
I have a Radeon Mobility 9000 in my laptop and had the same problem. I will try the new drivers y'all have linked to. But I discovered that if I turn the Depth Type setting to none in the general setup after hitting esc key that I have much more success in crash free playtime. There are a couple of side effects to this though, like your ship is invisible in stations unless viewed from the bottom and you can see inside stations from the outside. But it seems a lot more stable then before. And I can see the places where the game would be crashing to by the sudden freezing of the animation but it now regains the animation instead of freezing.
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Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2004.11.30 22:22:00 -
[104]
I have a Radeon Mobility 9000 in my laptop and had the same problem. I will try the new drivers y'all have linked to. But I discovered that if I turn the Depth Type setting to none in the general setup after hitting esc key that I have much more success in crash free playtime. There are a couple of side effects to this though, like your ship is invisible in stations unless viewed from the bottom and you can see inside stations from the outside. But it seems a lot more stable then before. And I can see the places where the game would be crashing to by the sudden freezing of the animation but it now regains the animation instead of freezing.
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jaketheuntaki
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Posted - 2004.12.01 10:18:00 -
[105]
I like most of u have ATI Radeon 9000 card. EVE froze during station exit and starting warp. In full screan mode I needed to reboot computer but switching to windows allowed me to close and restart EVE. I "cured" the problem by turning off the z buffer option (last in the graphic menu) since then no problems.
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jaketheuntaki
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Posted - 2004.12.01 10:18:00 -
[106]
I like most of u have ATI Radeon 9000 card. EVE froze during station exit and starting warp. In full screan mode I needed to reboot computer but switching to windows allowed me to close and restart EVE. I "cured" the problem by turning off the z buffer option (last in the graphic menu) since then no problems.
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modena
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Posted - 2004.12.01 12:39:00 -
[107]
Originally by: modena
I have a mobile 9200 and get the same problems, i am running the latest normal ATi drivers using a mod program. No problems in Castor. Going to try Omega drivers.
Omega drivers slowed my laptop down and eve wouldnt load. I have gone back to the manufacturer (Acer) supplied driver and need to test it now.
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modena
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Posted - 2004.12.01 12:39:00 -
[108]
Originally by: modena
I have a mobile 9200 and get the same problems, i am running the latest normal ATi drivers using a mod program. No problems in Castor. Going to try Omega drivers.
Omega drivers slowed my laptop down and eve wouldnt load. I have gone back to the manufacturer (Acer) supplied driver and need to test it now.
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Indorax
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Posted - 2004.12.01 13:50:00 -
[109]
I thought i was the only one having these problems still i saw this thread! lol I'm running an ATI 9000 mobility too, same problems as everyone else, crashin in warp usually. It is makin the game nearly unplayable, really annoying. Has anyone downloaded the optional patch that was released a few days ago and if it solves the problem? my laptop manufacturers have been rubbish at getting me drivers that work, and modding the latest catalyst drivers dont' seem to be working either. As with everyone else, was fine in Castor, but there must be an issue with some bit of code they've implemented in Exodus. WE NEED UR HELP CCP!
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Indorax
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Posted - 2004.12.01 13:50:00 -
[110]
I thought i was the only one having these problems still i saw this thread! lol I'm running an ATI 9000 mobility too, same problems as everyone else, crashin in warp usually. It is makin the game nearly unplayable, really annoying. Has anyone downloaded the optional patch that was released a few days ago and if it solves the problem? my laptop manufacturers have been rubbish at getting me drivers that work, and modding the latest catalyst drivers dont' seem to be working either. As with everyone else, was fine in Castor, but there must be an issue with some bit of code they've implemented in Exodus. WE NEED UR HELP CCP!
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Veren Sark
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:20:00 -
[111]
i have been having this problem for over a year now on and off. I use both a desktop and a laptop and my laptop freezes completely now and again especially from one system 4C-B7X. No alt-ctrl-del can save my machine and a complete reboot of laptop is required.
I've always thought this to be a strange one. I'm running a geforce graphics card (can't remember the exact spec).
Have we had any response on this from CCP at all?!
cheers
V
Always fight on a full stomach! |
Veren Sark
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:20:00 -
[112]
i have been having this problem for over a year now on and off. I use both a desktop and a laptop and my laptop freezes completely now and again especially from one system 4C-B7X. No alt-ctrl-del can save my machine and a complete reboot of laptop is required.
I've always thought this to be a strange one. I'm running a geforce graphics card (can't remember the exact spec).
Have we had any response on this from CCP at all?!
cheers
V
Always fight on a full stomach! |
Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.12.01 15:36:00 -
[113]
Originally by: jaketheuntaki
I like most of u have ATI Radeon 9000 card. EVE froze during station exit and starting warp. In full screan mode I needed to reboot computer but switching to windows allowed me to close and restart EVE. I "cured" the problem by turning off the z buffer option (last in the graphic menu) since then no problems.
No depth buffer = ****
I will try that, but EVE looks horrible.
What's the point on buying a game oyu cannot play? Because if I do I will freeze when 10 npc respawn and I will die again.
Can CCP reimburse losses due this bug? I'm very curious.
Btw I have installed 4.11 and I freeze 1% less than before. So it not worked for me. |
Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.12.01 15:36:00 -
[114]
Originally by: jaketheuntaki
I like most of u have ATI Radeon 9000 card. EVE froze during station exit and starting warp. In full screan mode I needed to reboot computer but switching to windows allowed me to close and restart EVE. I "cured" the problem by turning off the z buffer option (last in the graphic menu) since then no problems.
No depth buffer = ****
I will try that, but EVE looks horrible.
What's the point on buying a game oyu cannot play? Because if I do I will freeze when 10 npc respawn and I will die again.
Can CCP reimburse losses due this bug? I'm very curious.
Btw I have installed 4.11 and I freeze 1% less than before. So it not worked for me. |
Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.12.01 19:09:00 -
[115]
Win 98 SE , ATI 8500 .
Odd.
For those who are crashing in pirate spawns, i went NPC killing for several hours and didn't freeze at all.In fact, till there is a solution (hope the next patch has it) i'm docking only the necessary and not more.
It seems a quite difficult issue.
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.12.01 19:09:00 -
[116]
Win 98 SE , ATI 8500 .
Odd.
For those who are crashing in pirate spawns, i went NPC killing for several hours and didn't freeze at all.In fact, till there is a solution (hope the next patch has it) i'm docking only the necessary and not more.
It seems a quite difficult issue.
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Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2004.12.01 20:21:00 -
[117]
Niko... there isn't a line in the pref file for the Depth Buffer, it is an option on the graphics menu when you hit the esc key...
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Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2004.12.01 20:21:00 -
[118]
Niko... there isn't a line in the pref file for the Depth Buffer, it is an option on the graphics menu when you hit the esc key...
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:09:00 -
[119]
Hi,
i tried the game from my old laptop using a gforce 5200 and it worked fine, even though the driver are *older* than the ATI ones i use on my main laptop, so about 1 1/2 year out of date :)
My guess is, that it's a problem with ATI cards and not really related to the drivers, as the game works fine with "ancient" gforce drivers :), and third party mods don't seem to work with everyone
To my surprise the game ran really smooth on the old machine, really impressive how good the programming seems to be :)
Has anyone got feedback from CCP, i read the patch notes of the patch that was supposed to be released today but there was no mention about "our" issue :(
CU,
Drakip
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:09:00 -
[120]
Hi,
i tried the game from my old laptop using a gforce 5200 and it worked fine, even though the driver are *older* than the ATI ones i use on my main laptop, so about 1 1/2 year out of date :)
My guess is, that it's a problem with ATI cards and not really related to the drivers, as the game works fine with "ancient" gforce drivers :), and third party mods don't seem to work with everyone
To my surprise the game ran really smooth on the old machine, really impressive how good the programming seems to be :)
Has anyone got feedback from CCP, i read the patch notes of the patch that was supposed to be released today but there was no mention about "our" issue :(
CU,
Drakip
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:38:00 -
[121]
I wouldn't hold your breathe waiting for CCP to give you a reply or to reimburse for the lost ships. I have been getting nothin but bullsh** auto response for my petition concerning lost ships due to the excessive lag ( the kind to where you can do nothing for over 90 seconds but watch mobs shoot you and when lag lets up you have a pod ). Anyways thats been goin on since Exodus was released.. their Customer service is trash.. from a person that played EQ since release and DAOC.. it makes me sick to say someone has worse customer service but CCP is changin my mind on that :(
Lets see some people cant even do agent missions. so ok we will mine.. but than you can't mine because of bs bugs and issues......... so to the people saying just sit in a station ro dont play... I dont pay my monthly fee to sit in a station or to pay for a game I can't play.. get off your high horse and realize there's other people that play EVE besides you and some of them are having nothing but problems anbd issues since CCP released this riddled ***** baby expansion. NOW I WILL SAY EVE is a great game.. very special game compared to other online ventures.. and Exodus is great, least I think so. I love the content and changes but the way Exodus was released and how the problems are being handled is just a fu*** joke.
Now for the crashing issue.
I also use an ATI 9200
Well I lost another ship today... go figure ... but it was due to the constant locking up issue instead of lag this time. Either when I exiting a station, warping to and from area's or going to pan camera view. This happened quite a few times while panning.
I was mining today and rats popped on me no bog deal start firing off the heavies etc etc well I start laggin.. no nig deal. I go to pan camera so I can face down so as not to run into the lock up thing when warping.. well I lock up....... so ok I come back into the game to get out of there well my ship is almost destroyed no biggie I go to warp.. bam lock up again...... so I come back a 3rd time.. I am in a pod.... SHOCKER.............. so mighty ****ed off right now I would petition but thats a joke now isnt it..... so I say fk it and go to get my indy to come back and pick up my ships cargo pod and ore I am mining. Well I would say and bein honest it took me maybe 6-8 reboots just to get my damn indy back to my cargo.. and funny thing is my indy and all my stuff is in same system....... so to go from a belt to station and back to belt it took 6-8 reboots. Now thats just sad.
So bein ****ed off thinkin ya know I dont have to waste my money supportin BS service like this so I am about to cancel and I am thinkin maybe I will check this thread.. so I did and I tried some things and SO FAR everything is workin ok.. reffering to the lock ups.
So here's what I tried and I really do hope it works for some of you.
Mainly for ATI users.
This is what I am using and seems to work SO FAR.
Fullscreen
1024x768
16bit color
16-bit z-buffer
NO BUFFER ( do not use Z or W.. change it to none )
0mhz refresh ( or whatever that last option is )
Planet detail low
Its not the best for the game but it seems to be workin for me so try this and see if it helps ya out. I know how frustrating this is for yall trust me experiencing it myself... so hope this helps... good luck
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:38:00 -
[122]
I wouldn't hold your breathe waiting for CCP to give you a reply or to reimburse for the lost ships. I have been getting nothin but bullsh** auto response for my petition concerning lost ships due to the excessive lag ( the kind to where you can do nothing for over 90 seconds but watch mobs shoot you and when lag lets up you have a pod ). Anyways thats been goin on since Exodus was released.. their Customer service is trash.. from a person that played EQ since release and DAOC.. it makes me sick to say someone has worse customer service but CCP is changin my mind on that :(
Lets see some people cant even do agent missions. so ok we will mine.. but than you can't mine because of bs bugs and issues......... so to the people saying just sit in a station ro dont play... I dont pay my monthly fee to sit in a station or to pay for a game I can't play.. get off your high horse and realize there's other people that play EVE besides you and some of them are having nothing but problems anbd issues since CCP released this riddled ***** baby expansion. NOW I WILL SAY EVE is a great game.. very special game compared to other online ventures.. and Exodus is great, least I think so. I love the content and changes but the way Exodus was released and how the problems are being handled is just a fu*** joke.
Now for the crashing issue.
I also use an ATI 9200
Well I lost another ship today... go figure ... but it was due to the constant locking up issue instead of lag this time. Either when I exiting a station, warping to and from area's or going to pan camera view. This happened quite a few times while panning.
I was mining today and rats popped on me no bog deal start firing off the heavies etc etc well I start laggin.. no nig deal. I go to pan camera so I can face down so as not to run into the lock up thing when warping.. well I lock up....... so ok I come back into the game to get out of there well my ship is almost destroyed no biggie I go to warp.. bam lock up again...... so I come back a 3rd time.. I am in a pod.... SHOCKER.............. so mighty ****ed off right now I would petition but thats a joke now isnt it..... so I say fk it and go to get my indy to come back and pick up my ships cargo pod and ore I am mining. Well I would say and bein honest it took me maybe 6-8 reboots just to get my damn indy back to my cargo.. and funny thing is my indy and all my stuff is in same system....... so to go from a belt to station and back to belt it took 6-8 reboots. Now thats just sad.
So bein ****ed off thinkin ya know I dont have to waste my money supportin BS service like this so I am about to cancel and I am thinkin maybe I will check this thread.. so I did and I tried some things and SO FAR everything is workin ok.. reffering to the lock ups.
So here's what I tried and I really do hope it works for some of you.
Mainly for ATI users.
This is what I am using and seems to work SO FAR.
Fullscreen
1024x768
16bit color
16-bit z-buffer
NO BUFFER ( do not use Z or W.. change it to none )
0mhz refresh ( or whatever that last option is )
Planet detail low
Its not the best for the game but it seems to be workin for me so try this and see if it helps ya out. I know how frustrating this is for yall trust me experiencing it myself... so hope this helps... good luck
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Mari Y'Tuk
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:52:00 -
[123]
I'm getting lockups when running eve in the background while using something like WMP (causes the largest hangs), but i'm running a nvidia 6800 Ultra
My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here. |
Mari Y'Tuk
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:52:00 -
[124]
I'm getting lockups when running eve in the background while using something like WMP (causes the largest hangs), but i'm running a nvidia 6800 Ultra
My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here. |
Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:57:00 -
[125]
Hi,
my subscription runs till 31 Dec., so i give them a month till i think about cancelling...After all, it has only been a week since Exodus, so i'll give them some more time, luckily my old laptop seems to work, so i guess i can use it for the game :)
I've also been progressivly downgrading the graphics to get pas the lockups but for me it is a non-solution because once there will be more stress on the card, it will tend to lock up again, well probably later if the options are down but it's only holding back...
I just have the feeling it's this Z-buffer's fault, it hasn't been there on Castor and even when it's off, the Depth option stays, lowest is 16Bit you can't turn it off, but that's only me guessing *eyes this Z-buffer things suspiciously* *g*
CU,
Drakip
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.01 21:57:00 -
[126]
Hi,
my subscription runs till 31 Dec., so i give them a month till i think about cancelling...After all, it has only been a week since Exodus, so i'll give them some more time, luckily my old laptop seems to work, so i guess i can use it for the game :)
I've also been progressivly downgrading the graphics to get pas the lockups but for me it is a non-solution because once there will be more stress on the card, it will tend to lock up again, well probably later if the options are down but it's only holding back...
I just have the feeling it's this Z-buffer's fault, it hasn't been there on Castor and even when it's off, the Depth option stays, lowest is 16Bit you can't turn it off, but that's only me guessing *eyes this Z-buffer things suspiciously* *g*
CU,
Drakip
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.01 22:04:00 -
[127]
Scratch my last offering.. It's not workin started locking up again :(
I did have it running in 800x600 when i first started tryin this ran very smooth np's and I had an increase in FPS. So maybe that has somethint o do with it. I only took it out of 800x600 because options on the sidebar wern't showing up in stations so I am going to try that again.. run in 800x600 in space and before undocking and 1024x768 when in stations.
Will let yall know if that works or not.
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.01 22:04:00 -
[128]
Scratch my last offering.. It's not workin started locking up again :(
I did have it running in 800x600 when i first started tryin this ran very smooth np's and I had an increase in FPS. So maybe that has somethint o do with it. I only took it out of 800x600 because options on the sidebar wern't showing up in stations so I am going to try that again.. run in 800x600 in space and before undocking and 1024x768 when in stations.
Will let yall know if that works or not.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.01 22:06:00 -
[129]
forgot to ask earlier...someone posted her tried the Omega drivers on his Acer laptop...what model do you have...I run an Aspire 2000
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.01 22:06:00 -
[130]
forgot to ask earlier...someone posted her tried the Omega drivers on his Acer laptop...what model do you have...I run an Aspire 2000
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.01 23:13:00 -
[131]
Ok think I have a temp fix but you won't like it !
Refer to my first post this thread page 4 for settings.
Ok heres what ya do. This has worked for last 45mins or so. I did a total of maybe 12-15 jumps back and forth went into 4 stations or so np's no hanging up no locking up no nothin.
Go to your CCp folder than open up the Cache folder than open of the Preferences pad. ( gold icon on a note pad )
Inside the preferences pad I changed the screen size and somethin else but forgot what but pasted what mine looks like.
buffersize=80
debug=0
decimal=.
desktopHeight=600
desktopPrimary=0
desktopSetup=0
desktopWidth=800
Now with that said when I login and go to char select screen I changed it to window mode, and make sure it says 800x600 screen siz. *note* I am using the prior settings from above post also.
Ok ingame heres what I do and its working like a charm although IT SUCKS to have to do this but its working.
I enter game and hit alt-enter to get screen to look halfway decent. Window sizes are messed up and such and it surely should not be what it should but it works. I play like this and am having np's.
Now when I dock into a station things change abit cause options on my side bar dont show up things like ships button items button etc etc...... So I hit alt-enter again.. sometimes this does not work I get a white screen inside the station where my ship and side bar should be.. so I hit ESC to bring up options menu and I change it from windowed mode to fullscreen mode and BLING BLING all is good.
Now I noticed after my last post I left it like this than went back out into space and eventually shortly thereafter I ended up locking again and etc etc more cuss words.
So this time around before I undock I merely change it back to window mode and lose those lower buttons on my side bar since screen size has changed but since I am about to undock they wont need to be there anyways.
It seems to be workin for me I am thinkin like some people have stated its the Z-buffer thing or merely a FPS issue. Running EVE like this sucks but its freeing up FPS for me and I havent crashed YET.. so I am holding my breath.
ALSO a side note.. I noticed I only encounter this BS in Tash Murkon area. When Exodus first launched I was in Rens/metropolis area doing my missions and I dont ever recall locking up like this. Now that I went back to my mine spots and such anytime I am in the Tash Murkon area I am locking up when warping docking undocking panning. Post if any of you are encouinter samething in these area's.
ANyways hope this ghetto fix works for yall..... if you cant understand my jibberish evemail me ingame and I will try and rexplain it there for ya.
Make sure though its in 800x600 mode even when ingame to me I think this is one of the things that helps. It sucks I know but its working
Good luck !
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.01 23:13:00 -
[132]
Ok think I have a temp fix but you won't like it !
Refer to my first post this thread page 4 for settings.
Ok heres what ya do. This has worked for last 45mins or so. I did a total of maybe 12-15 jumps back and forth went into 4 stations or so np's no hanging up no locking up no nothin.
Go to your CCp folder than open up the Cache folder than open of the Preferences pad. ( gold icon on a note pad )
Inside the preferences pad I changed the screen size and somethin else but forgot what but pasted what mine looks like.
buffersize=80
debug=0
decimal=.
desktopHeight=600
desktopPrimary=0
desktopSetup=0
desktopWidth=800
Now with that said when I login and go to char select screen I changed it to window mode, and make sure it says 800x600 screen siz. *note* I am using the prior settings from above post also.
Ok ingame heres what I do and its working like a charm although IT SUCKS to have to do this but its working.
I enter game and hit alt-enter to get screen to look halfway decent. Window sizes are messed up and such and it surely should not be what it should but it works. I play like this and am having np's.
Now when I dock into a station things change abit cause options on my side bar dont show up things like ships button items button etc etc...... So I hit alt-enter again.. sometimes this does not work I get a white screen inside the station where my ship and side bar should be.. so I hit ESC to bring up options menu and I change it from windowed mode to fullscreen mode and BLING BLING all is good.
Now I noticed after my last post I left it like this than went back out into space and eventually shortly thereafter I ended up locking again and etc etc more cuss words.
So this time around before I undock I merely change it back to window mode and lose those lower buttons on my side bar since screen size has changed but since I am about to undock they wont need to be there anyways.
It seems to be workin for me I am thinkin like some people have stated its the Z-buffer thing or merely a FPS issue. Running EVE like this sucks but its freeing up FPS for me and I havent crashed YET.. so I am holding my breath.
ALSO a side note.. I noticed I only encounter this BS in Tash Murkon area. When Exodus first launched I was in Rens/metropolis area doing my missions and I dont ever recall locking up like this. Now that I went back to my mine spots and such anytime I am in the Tash Murkon area I am locking up when warping docking undocking panning. Post if any of you are encouinter samething in these area's.
ANyways hope this ghetto fix works for yall..... if you cant understand my jibberish evemail me ingame and I will try and rexplain it there for ya.
Make sure though its in 800x600 mode even when ingame to me I think this is one of the things that helps. It sucks I know but its working
Good luck !
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.02 01:05:00 -
[133]
Ok been playin ever since I posted this and its workin like a charm so for those constantly locking up try this seems to be workin for me.
Like I said need me to re explain how to do it just lemme know via evemail and I will help ya out np. Its irritating havin to change the windowed/Fullscreen deal and alt-enter to change up the screen but it works and allows ya to play with np's or least for me now.
Good luck
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.02 01:05:00 -
[134]
Ok been playin ever since I posted this and its workin like a charm so for those constantly locking up try this seems to be workin for me.
Like I said need me to re explain how to do it just lemme know via evemail and I will help ya out np. Its irritating havin to change the windowed/Fullscreen deal and alt-enter to change up the screen but it works and allows ya to play with np's or least for me now.
Good luck
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xerud filth
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Posted - 2004.12.02 06:33:00 -
[135]
I seem to be getting the same problem, i run windows me on my pc and have an ATI radeon 9200 card installed, like everyone else, the problem only surfaced when exodus turned up, tried to install the ati catalyst driver but that turned out to be fruitless...
all i can find in the error log is this:
: triui.UIWindow: Window dot (0AC39A70) destructor called before being Closed
116 : triui.UIWindow: Window shadow (0AC43020) destructor called before being Closed
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xerud filth
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Posted - 2004.12.02 06:33:00 -
[136]
I seem to be getting the same problem, i run windows me on my pc and have an ATI radeon 9200 card installed, like everyone else, the problem only surfaced when exodus turned up, tried to install the ati catalyst driver but that turned out to be fruitless...
all i can find in the error log is this:
: triui.UIWindow: Window dot (0AC39A70) destructor called before being Closed
116 : triui.UIWindow: Window shadow (0AC43020) destructor called before being Closed
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skothk
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:38:00 -
[137]
Edited by: skothk on 02/12/2004 11:43:18
It's great that CCP have fixed a large number of game issues with the patch being deployed today, but i see nothing about the problems being suffered by us ATI Mobility users.
It would be good if CCP had a check list of all the known problems they are dealing with and an expected fix time frame. At least we would know they aware of the problem and are doing something about it.
Space is full of black holes and we are left sitting in one!! Throw us a fecking bone here CCP !! 
skothk
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I am.... Caldari! |
skothk
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:38:00 -
[138]
Edited by: skothk on 02/12/2004 11:43:18
It's great that CCP have fixed a large number of game issues with the patch being deployed today, but i see nothing about the problems being suffered by us ATI Mobility users.
It would be good if CCP had a check list of all the known problems they are dealing with and an expected fix time frame. At least we would know they aware of the problem and are doing something about it.
Space is full of black holes and we are left sitting in one!! Throw us a fecking bone here CCP !!
skothk
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I am.... Caldari! |
skothk
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Posted - 2004.12.02 14:22:00 -
[139]
Just logged on after the latest patch upgrade, undocked and no crashed. Docked then undocked again and no crash.
Going to try a few more times, but may be this problem has been fixed????
SKOTHK
skothk
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I am.... Caldari! |
skothk
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Posted - 2004.12.02 14:22:00 -
[140]
Just logged on after the latest patch upgrade, undocked and no crashed. Docked then undocked again and no crash.
Going to try a few more times, but may be this problem has been fixed????
SKOTHK
skothk
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I am.... Caldari! |
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:54:00 -
[141]
Dont know if latest patch helps solves this or not but my above fixes seem to have done it for me. Played for well over 4 hours last night and never had an issue.
Worse comes to worse try it... the main trick I think is running in 800x600 but never had that option in screen sizes ingame so you will have to manually do it through preferences in your ccp/cache folder.
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Praetorien
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:54:00 -
[142]
Dont know if latest patch helps solves this or not but my above fixes seem to have done it for me. Played for well over 4 hours last night and never had an issue.
Worse comes to worse try it... the main trick I think is running in 800x600 but never had that option in screen sizes ingame so you will have to manually do it through preferences in your ccp/cache folder.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:59:00 -
[143]
Patch didnt work for me :(
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:59:00 -
[144]
Patch didnt work for me :(
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grendels arm
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Posted - 2004.12.02 16:16:00 -
[145]
I have I think the same problem. Running a ATI 9700 card. Worked fine before Exodus. Randomly when I exit the station I get a blank screen. I can see nothing. I have to hit Esc, which brings up the menu, and then exit the game. One time it crashed out to the dekstop before I could do anything.
Seems to me the thing in common is ATI cards. Well well I guess the money CCP makes per month doesn't go to QA. They must leave it up to users to get free QA testing. Not sure how this problem could be in our nice "free" upgrade to Exodus for one of the most popular line of graphics cards. This is a classic example of releasing buggy software. Not like it's a hard to find bug. Undocking is a common task that should have been caught in testing.
I have been playing for 3 weeks and am still under my 30 day free trial. So far am impressed with the depth of the game but from what I see so far and have read there are too many bugs in the game in which we are forced to upgrade each time if we want to play. Unlike other online games. This is the disadvantage of MMOG's. I will not pay between $10-$15 a month for a game which I can't use some of the time because of bugs. No thanks. If I was renting a home and they told me I couldn't use it for 2 days a month I would expect reimbursement for the time I couldn't use it. The phone company will do this and so will the cable company. Why not CCP and other online pay places? Force these software makers like CCP and others to make a better product and not use their customers as testers and guinea pigs for sloppy work.
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grendels arm
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Posted - 2004.12.02 16:16:00 -
[146]
I have I think the same problem. Running a ATI 9700 card. Worked fine before Exodus. Randomly when I exit the station I get a blank screen. I can see nothing. I have to hit Esc, which brings up the menu, and then exit the game. One time it crashed out to the dekstop before I could do anything.
Seems to me the thing in common is ATI cards. Well well I guess the money CCP makes per month doesn't go to QA. They must leave it up to users to get free QA testing. Not sure how this problem could be in our nice "free" upgrade to Exodus for one of the most popular line of graphics cards. This is a classic example of releasing buggy software. Not like it's a hard to find bug. Undocking is a common task that should have been caught in testing.
I have been playing for 3 weeks and am still under my 30 day free trial. So far am impressed with the depth of the game but from what I see so far and have read there are too many bugs in the game in which we are forced to upgrade each time if we want to play. Unlike other online games. This is the disadvantage of MMOG's. I will not pay between $10-$15 a month for a game which I can't use some of the time because of bugs. No thanks. If I was renting a home and they told me I couldn't use it for 2 days a month I would expect reimbursement for the time I couldn't use it. The phone company will do this and so will the cable company. Why not CCP and other online pay places? Force these software makers like CCP and others to make a better product and not use their customers as testers and guinea pigs for sloppy work.
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.12.02 17:35:00 -
[147]
All Bullocks All Bullocks I have the same freakin problem
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Calling Christos Hendez come back to EvE
Smother another Failur
Lay this to rest...
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.12.02 17:35:00 -
[148]
All Bullocks All Bullocks I have the same freakin problem
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Calling Christos Hendez come back to EvE
Smother another Failur
Lay this to rest...
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Cpt Angus
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Posted - 2004.12.02 20:43:00 -
[149]
HELP US CCP!! GIVE US A CLUE OR SAY YOUR WORKING ON IT!!
Same problem, i've had to run in window mode so that i can exit when the lock up occurs.
But recently the lockups have ceased and the game just shutsdown entirely upon pressing undock button.
Running ATI radeon 9200 256MB with latest drivers.
Please someone help! this is really killing the enjoyment of the game for me as the constant logging in is getting on my ****. PvP is no longer valid and hauling ore sux even more now.
Bones heal and chicks dig scars |
Cpt Angus
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Posted - 2004.12.02 20:43:00 -
[150]
HELP US CCP!! GIVE US A CLUE OR SAY YOUR WORKING ON IT!!
Same problem, i've had to run in window mode so that i can exit when the lock up occurs.
But recently the lockups have ceased and the game just shutsdown entirely upon pressing undock button.
Running ATI radeon 9200 256MB with latest drivers.
Please someone help! this is really killing the enjoyment of the game for me as the constant logging in is getting on my ****. PvP is no longer valid and hauling ore sux even more now.
Bones heal and chicks dig scars |
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.02 21:59:00 -
[151]
I have a theory or possible connection (and yes add my name to the list of people who can't warp away from a station). In exodus the sun is occluded by ships regardless of the setting you might have! I noticed this one of the few times I was flying about. The ship clearly occluded the sun. We've all known for a long time this feature can cause problems on many machines and most of us have it turned off (those of us with problems anyway).
Anybody have a suggestion on how to return this "feature" back off?
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.02 21:59:00 -
[152]
I have a theory or possible connection (and yes add my name to the list of people who can't warp away from a station). In exodus the sun is occluded by ships regardless of the setting you might have! I noticed this one of the few times I was flying about. The ship clearly occluded the sun. We've all known for a long time this feature can cause problems on many machines and most of us have it turned off (those of us with problems anyway).
Anybody have a suggestion on how to return this "feature" back off?
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Cpt Angus
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:08:00 -
[153]
just out of curiosity has anyone tried downloading and installing the full build instaed of patching upto date?
Bones heal and chicks dig scars |
Cpt Angus
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:08:00 -
[154]
just out of curiosity has anyone tried downloading and installing the full build instaed of patching upto date?
Bones heal and chicks dig scars |
skothk
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:09:00 -
[155]
I must have had a lucky run there for a while, paying for 4 hours and not one crash. Docking and undocking a number of times with out any problem. But the gremlin is back, I have crashed when undocking 3 times in the past 10 minutes.
Oh well, back to sitting in a station earning no money and training skills 
What a great game this is! Remind me how much im paying to use this service?? oh yes.. Ç14.95 a month!
skothk
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I am.... Caldari! |
skothk
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:09:00 -
[156]
I must have had a lucky run there for a while, paying for 4 hours and not one crash. Docking and undocking a number of times with out any problem. But the gremlin is back, I have crashed when undocking 3 times in the past 10 minutes.
Oh well, back to sitting in a station earning no money and training skills
What a great game this is! Remind me how much im paying to use this service?? oh yes.. Ç14.95 a month!
skothk
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I am.... Caldari! |
Braz
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:15:00 -
[157]
Has been randomly happening to me also, i've had to restart the game about seven times today.
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Braz
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:15:00 -
[158]
Has been randomly happening to me also, i've had to restart the game about seven times today.
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.02 23:55:00 -
[159]
Hi,
a statement from CCP would be in order now I think, after all the upgrade is one week old and there seem to be a lot of people having this problem...I filed a question with Eve support a few days back, no answer yet...
Did anyone file a bug report, or get *some* kind of statement?
CU,
Drakip
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.02 23:55:00 -
[160]
Hi,
a statement from CCP would be in order now I think, after all the upgrade is one week old and there seem to be a lot of people having this problem...I filed a question with Eve support a few days back, no answer yet...
Did anyone file a bug report, or get *some* kind of statement?
CU,
Drakip
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xerud filth
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Posted - 2004.12.03 02:15:00 -
[161]
yep, i downloaded the full build to start with, and i downloaded it again, got all the catalyst drivers and everything, got the new patch, still have the same ******* problem, i cant beleive im paing money for this bulls**t, i love EVE i really do, but ill be cancelling by subscription if they dont sort this out within a few weeks im pulling my hair out!!!!!!
ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHh
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xerud filth
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Posted - 2004.12.03 02:15:00 -
[162]
yep, i downloaded the full build to start with, and i downloaded it again, got all the catalyst drivers and everything, got the new patch, still have the same ******* problem, i cant beleive im paing money for this bulls**t, i love EVE i really do, but ill be cancelling by subscription if they dont sort this out within a few weeks im pulling my hair out!!!!!!
ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHh
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Karnie
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Posted - 2004.12.03 02:25:00 -
[163]
For everyone with this problem, please calm down and take a breath or 2. I was having this problem too and I came to the conclusion its lag. My computer is fast enough and totally up to date. The only reason the game is messing up is due to the freakingly high amount of lag right now. PC specs below.
AMD 3200+ 64 bit
1 gig of DDR 2700
FX 6800 ultra
latest drives and version of DX9
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Karnie
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Posted - 2004.12.03 02:25:00 -
[164]
For everyone with this problem, please calm down and take a breath or 2. I was having this problem too and I came to the conclusion its lag. My computer is fast enough and totally up to date. The only reason the game is messing up is due to the freakingly high amount of lag right now. PC specs below.
AMD 3200+ 64 bit
1 gig of DDR 2700
FX 6800 ultra
latest drives and version of DX9
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 03:49:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Karnie
For everyone with this problem, please calm down and take a breath or 2. I was having this problem too and I came to the conclusion its lag. My computer is fast enough and totally up to date. The only reason the game is messing up is due to the freakingly high amount of lag right now. PC specs below.
AMD 3200+ 64 bit
1 gig of DDR 2700
FX 6800 ultra
latest drives and version of DX9
Curious, how does lag cause a program to terminate itself or lockup a program to the point that the PC must be rebooted. I don't know what your problems were, but mine are definately NOT lag.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 03:49:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Karnie
For everyone with this problem, please calm down and take a breath or 2. I was having this problem too and I came to the conclusion its lag. My computer is fast enough and totally up to date. The only reason the game is messing up is due to the freakingly high amount of lag right now. PC specs below.
AMD 3200+ 64 bit
1 gig of DDR 2700
FX 6800 ultra
latest drives and version of DX9
Curious, how does lag cause a program to terminate itself or lockup a program to the point that the PC must be rebooted. I don't know what your problems were, but mine are definately NOT lag.
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xerud filth
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Posted - 2004.12.03 03:49:00 -
[167]
nah it aints lag at all, mines is an up to date computer too, i recently (within the last half an hour) solved the problem by downloading ati catalyst 4.10, one i had overlooked.....
i run windows me, so for the ME users out there try that...
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xerud filth
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Posted - 2004.12.03 03:49:00 -
[168]
nah it aints lag at all, mines is an up to date computer too, i recently (within the last half an hour) solved the problem by downloading ati catalyst 4.10, one i had overlooked.....
i run windows me, so for the ME users out there try that...
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 04:09:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Allaina
I have a theory or possible connection (and yes add my name to the list of people who can't warp away from a station). In exodus the sun is occluded by ships regardless of the setting you might have! I noticed this one of the few times I was flying about. The ship clearly occluded the sun. We've all known for a long time this feature can cause problems on many machines and most of us have it turned off (those of us with problems anyway).
Anybody have a suggestion on how to return this "feature" back off?
OK, I am now 100% sure this is what's causing the problem, at least for me. How do I know? I have 2 accounts that I run on 2 different installs on the same machine. On one account I have the problem described above (sun occluded not working properly) and on the other I have no problems.
I ask again, anybody have a suggestion on how to make it so that sun occluded is actually turned off and remains so?
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 04:09:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Allaina
I have a theory or possible connection (and yes add my name to the list of people who can't warp away from a station). In exodus the sun is occluded by ships regardless of the setting you might have! I noticed this one of the few times I was flying about. The ship clearly occluded the sun. We've all known for a long time this feature can cause problems on many machines and most of us have it turned off (those of us with problems anyway).
Anybody have a suggestion on how to return this "feature" back off?
OK, I am now 100% sure this is what's causing the problem, at least for me. How do I know? I have 2 accounts that I run on 2 different installs on the same machine. On one account I have the problem described above (sun occluded not working properly) and on the other I have no problems.
I ask again, anybody have a suggestion on how to make it so that sun occluded is actually turned off and remains so?
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Infineon
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Posted - 2004.12.03 04:41:00 -
[171]
I am extremely disappointed with how EVE runs on my notebook, I get an average of 15 fps and here are my specs:
EMACHINES M5309
AthlonXP Barton (512 cache) 2600+ (2.0 GHz 266fsb)
DDR 2x256 PC2100 ram (CL 2.5 hynix 266mhz)
ATI 320M IGP (GPU>182 MHz, RAM>133 MHz)
Toshiba 4200rpm HDD
AC97 sound
ALI M1535+ south chipset (with most recent driver pack: Integrated2.07)
Latest bios ME07
DRIVER SETTINGS:
Anisotropic Filtering ------- Application Preference
Anti-Aliasing --------------- Application Preference
Texture Preference ------- Performance
Mipmap Detail Level ------ High Performance
Z Buffer Depth ------------ 16
V-Sync --------------------- Always off
Alpha Dither Method ----- Ordered (results in improvement over Error diffusion setting)
Alternate Pixel Center --- Disabled
Colorfill -------------------- Default
Compressed Textures --- Enabled
Hierarchical Z ------------- Enabled
Pixel Shader Version ----- Default
Table Fog ----------------- Enabled
TCL ------------------------ Default
Vertex Shade Version ---- Default
W Buffer ------------------ Disabled (using W Buffer in game didnÆt result in any performance over Z Buffer)
W Fog --------------------- Disabled
Z Fog ---------------------- Enabled
GAME SETTINGS:
MODE ---------------------- Full screen
Color depth --------------- 16 bit
Resolution ---------------- 1280x800
Depth/stencil format ----- 16-bit z-buffer
Depth buffer type -------- Z Buffer
Multisample type --------- Disabled
Present Interval ---------- Interval Immediate
Interlace ------------------ OFF
Widescreen --------------- OFF
Dither --------------------- ON
Transparency ------------- .255 (transparent windows result in lower FPS)
WINDOWS XP SETTINGS:
All background programs are disabled
Windows services where brought down to only 10 that are set automatic, rest disabled
Windows is set to use all 512kb cache (default setting for 512kb processors in XP is 256kb)
Many other windows tweaks where done for improving performance
For video drivers I use catalyst 4.9 modified for notebook use, installing 4.10 and 4.11 results in about 20% lower performance (that I really donÆt understand why) Right now IÆm impatiently waiting for release of Catalyst 4.12 if they donÆt fix my low fps problem I will cancel my account, the game is almost unplayable and with all graphics/engine glitches I get its simply not worth my 20$
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Infineon
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Posted - 2004.12.03 04:41:00 -
[172]
I am extremely disappointed with how EVE runs on my notebook, I get an average of 15 fps and here are my specs:
EMACHINES M5309
AthlonXP Barton (512 cache) 2600+ (2.0 GHz 266fsb)
DDR 2x256 PC2100 ram (CL 2.5 hynix 266mhz)
ATI 320M IGP (GPU>182 MHz, RAM>133 MHz)
Toshiba 4200rpm HDD
AC97 sound
ALI M1535+ south chipset (with most recent driver pack: Integrated2.07)
Latest bios ME07
DRIVER SETTINGS:
Anisotropic Filtering ------- Application Preference
Anti-Aliasing --------------- Application Preference
Texture Preference ------- Performance
Mipmap Detail Level ------ High Performance
Z Buffer Depth ------------ 16
V-Sync --------------------- Always off
Alpha Dither Method ----- Ordered (results in improvement over Error diffusion setting)
Alternate Pixel Center --- Disabled
Colorfill -------------------- Default
Compressed Textures --- Enabled
Hierarchical Z ------------- Enabled
Pixel Shader Version ----- Default
Table Fog ----------------- Enabled
TCL ------------------------ Default
Vertex Shade Version ---- Default
W Buffer ------------------ Disabled (using W Buffer in game didnÆt result in any performance over Z Buffer)
W Fog --------------------- Disabled
Z Fog ---------------------- Enabled
GAME SETTINGS:
MODE ---------------------- Full screen
Color depth --------------- 16 bit
Resolution ---------------- 1280x800
Depth/stencil format ----- 16-bit z-buffer
Depth buffer type -------- Z Buffer
Multisample type --------- Disabled
Present Interval ---------- Interval Immediate
Interlace ------------------ OFF
Widescreen --------------- OFF
Dither --------------------- ON
Transparency ------------- .255 (transparent windows result in lower FPS)
WINDOWS XP SETTINGS:
All background programs are disabled
Windows services where brought down to only 10 that are set automatic, rest disabled
Windows is set to use all 512kb cache (default setting for 512kb processors in XP is 256kb)
Many other windows tweaks where done for improving performance
For video drivers I use catalyst 4.9 modified for notebook use, installing 4.10 and 4.11 results in about 20% lower performance (that I really donÆt understand why) Right now IÆm impatiently waiting for release of Catalyst 4.12 if they donÆt fix my low fps problem I will cancel my account, the game is almost unplayable and with all graphics/engine glitches I get its simply not worth my 20$
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 05:09:00 -
[173]
Will somebody please tell me if they've checked into their own "sun occluded by ships" setting?!?
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 05:09:00 -
[174]
Will somebody please tell me if they've checked into their own "sun occluded by ships" setting?!?
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.12.03 08:20:00 -
[175]
Edited by: T'Scain on 03/12/2004 08:30:34
Yeah Drakip, I sent a petition with a DXdiag on the day of deployment, and sent a bug report not long thereafter. No word yet.
At one point Oveur posted a comment in another thread asking us for error logs... so while I'm not sure how to get those, posts like Infineon's seem useful.
It's something much more than lag. Downloading drivers hasn't worked for most mobility users. Nor has d/ling and installing a fresh build. Nor has any single combination of graphics ops. Posting in this thread has lost its generative "metafix" feeling... the game's too unplayable in this state to renew a sub imo.
Sorry for more of the same, 
T
Edit: Change to Oveur with the calls for logs.
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.12.03 08:20:00 -
[176]
Edited by: T'Scain on 03/12/2004 08:30:34
Yeah Drakip, I sent a petition with a DXdiag on the day of deployment, and sent a bug report not long thereafter. No word yet.
At one point Oveur posted a comment in another thread asking us for error logs... so while I'm not sure how to get those, posts like Infineon's seem useful.
It's something much more than lag. Downloading drivers hasn't worked for most mobility users. Nor has d/ling and installing a fresh build. Nor has any single combination of graphics ops. Posting in this thread has lost its generative "metafix" feeling... the game's too unplayable in this state to renew a sub imo.
Sorry for more of the same,
T
Edit: Change to Oveur with the calls for logs.
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Ty Rone
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Posted - 2004.12.03 14:29:00 -
[177]
Yup, same problems..freezing while undocking.
I only have this problem on my Laptop wich is a 2Ghz mobile with 512 Mb and offcourse a ATI 9000 mob.
Imo it dev has something to do with the graphics and the gfs card. Altho i saw that there are peeps with newer video cards then a 9000 i think its related to the rendering ingame.
I have read through this thread and i do beleive there should be a way to run the client without lockups.
What i'm gonna try is first get the latest ATI catalyst drivers. If they don't work i'll try the modified mob ati drivers.
For now i got my client running without lockups for one evening with just putting all graphic options to the lowest. Low detail on planets, sun occluding off, no trail, etc etc and color depth to 16b with z-buffer. Res 1280x786 (widescreen) and i have turned of dithering and stuff.
All this makes the game awefull to look at but at least it keeps running.
The reason why i want to try the drivers is cause i want better views, i'll let u know what worked and not.
Let's hope there will be a patch for this soon , but as it seems only ATI users have these problems and especially the ones using older types of gfx chipsets.So i wouldn't count on it.
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Ty Rone
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Posted - 2004.12.03 14:29:00 -
[178]
Yup, same problems..freezing while undocking.
I only have this problem on my Laptop wich is a 2Ghz mobile with 512 Mb and offcourse a ATI 9000 mob.
Imo it dev has something to do with the graphics and the gfs card. Altho i saw that there are peeps with newer video cards then a 9000 i think its related to the rendering ingame.
I have read through this thread and i do beleive there should be a way to run the client without lockups.
What i'm gonna try is first get the latest ATI catalyst drivers. If they don't work i'll try the modified mob ati drivers.
For now i got my client running without lockups for one evening with just putting all graphic options to the lowest. Low detail on planets, sun occluding off, no trail, etc etc and color depth to 16b with z-buffer. Res 1280x786 (widescreen) and i have turned of dithering and stuff.
All this makes the game awefull to look at but at least it keeps running.
The reason why i want to try the drivers is cause i want better views, i'll let u know what worked and not.
Let's hope there will be a patch for this soon , but as it seems only ATI users have these problems and especially the ones using older types of gfx chipsets.So i wouldn't count on it.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 15:15:00 -
[179]
Although nobody seems to care I've gotten more stability on my one eve install which was exhibiting this problem and it was precisely the "sun occluded by ships" setting.
On the install that didn't have this problem I found this line in prefs.ini: sunOcclusion=1
While the install that did have this problem had: sunOcclusion=0
This apparently overrode the setting from the Esc menu. I've changed the setting in the prefs.ini for the install which had the problem and I haven't had a station-exit warp away lockup since.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.03 15:15:00 -
[180]
Although nobody seems to care I've gotten more stability on my one eve install which was exhibiting this problem and it was precisely the "sun occluded by ships" setting.
On the install that didn't have this problem I found this line in prefs.ini: sunOcclusion=1
While the install that did have this problem had: sunOcclusion=0
This apparently overrode the setting from the Esc menu. I've changed the setting in the prefs.ini for the install which had the problem and I haven't had a station-exit warp away lockup since.
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Frank Strange
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Posted - 2004.12.03 15:28:00 -
[181]
I agree that the 'sun occluded by ship' setting reverted back to on after I patched. I fortunately noticed this and turned it off and I havent once had this problem with undocking that you guys are describing.
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Frank Strange
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Posted - 2004.12.03 15:28:00 -
[182]
I agree that the 'sun occluded by ship' setting reverted back to on after I patched. I fortunately noticed this and turned it off and I havent once had this problem with undocking that you guys are describing.
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.12.03 23:54:00 -
[183]
How do we make the change, Allaina?
Thx,
T
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T'Scain
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Posted - 2004.12.03 23:54:00 -
[184]
How do we make the change, Allaina?
Thx,
T
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Jonathan swat
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Posted - 2004.12.04 10:15:00 -
[185]
Im always locking up in space before or in warp ... i have a ati mob 9200 and just the driver that is on the acer.com webside ... they dont seem to have new releses at ati.com for mobility
This is really starting to **** me off
What we do in life echoes in Eternity |
Jonathan swat
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Posted - 2004.12.04 10:15:00 -
[186]
Im always locking up in space before or in warp ... i have a ati mob 9200 and just the driver that is on the acer.com webside ... they dont seem to have new releses at ati.com for mobility
This is really starting to **** me off
What we do in life echoes in Eternity |
lavinia
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Posted - 2004.12.04 21:15:00 -
[187]
Same problem here, filed a bug-report yesterday.
Irritation-level is rising... slowly
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lavinia
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Posted - 2004.12.04 21:15:00 -
[188]
Same problem here, filed a bug-report yesterday.
Irritation-level is rising... slowly
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.12.04 22:02:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 04/12/2004 22:06:09
try it with WINDOW MODE then it should be fine
hehe im not having the overview bug and im not even having the exitstation freez bug and i never use fullscreen mode it sucks cause then i cant do other stuff on computer
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime!
Image done by Denrace |
Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.12.04 22:02:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 04/12/2004 22:06:09
try it with WINDOW MODE then it should be fine
hehe im not having the overview bug and im not even having the exitstation freez bug and i never use fullscreen mode it sucks cause then i cant do other stuff on computer
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime!
Image done by Denrace |
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.05 05:13:00 -
[191]
I went into prefs.ini and serched for "sun", when I found the setting I made the change. I've noticed a few times, even with the prefs.ini setting and the 'esc' screen both having sun occlusion turned off I STILL GET SUN OCCLUSION! You know what happens when I still get it? The game crashes when I try to warp away from a station.
BTW, for those of you who don't know what sun occlusion is: It is a graphic feature which makes the sun fade, and be blocked out if you move the camera so that your ship blocks the sun. It's really pretty when it works, but from day one sun occlusion has caused problems for many vid-cards. Even vid cards that have no problem with it get a frame rate hit with it turned on.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.05 05:13:00 -
[192]
I went into prefs.ini and serched for "sun", when I found the setting I made the change. I've noticed a few times, even with the prefs.ini setting and the 'esc' screen both having sun occlusion turned off I STILL GET SUN OCCLUSION! You know what happens when I still get it? The game crashes when I try to warp away from a station.
BTW, for those of you who don't know what sun occlusion is: It is a graphic feature which makes the sun fade, and be blocked out if you move the camera so that your ship blocks the sun. It's really pretty when it works, but from day one sun occlusion has caused problems for many vid-cards. Even vid cards that have no problem with it get a frame rate hit with it turned on.
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Dichromus Mars
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Posted - 2004.12.05 05:27:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Cpt Angus
just out of curiosity has anyone tried downloading and installing the full build instaed of patching upto date?
Yes. I have just done that. Then I logged in, did three jumps, undocked three times, and put a few items on the market. So far so good. Decided to visit another station, undocked, turned on the autopilot, sat back to enjoy the view and guess what? Yep, you guessed it. Damn thing froze up AGAIN.
So, a full reinstall (not just the patch) makes no damn difference. This latest version of Exodus can be described in one word. CRAP. Plain and simple.
This player ain't gonna renew his subscription while this issue is on-going.
Come on folks. Vote with your feet. If lots of subscribers threaten to leave maybe CCP will give us some info on what they are doing about these glitches. That'll help a little. All we want to know is that they are aware of the problems and are on top of the job. Their silence just makes things worse.
Or are they having serious issues with this and can't fix it?
Enquiring minds want to know...
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Dichromus Mars
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Posted - 2004.12.05 05:27:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Cpt Angus
just out of curiosity has anyone tried downloading and installing the full build instaed of patching upto date?
Yes. I have just done that. Then I logged in, did three jumps, undocked three times, and put a few items on the market. So far so good. Decided to visit another station, undocked, turned on the autopilot, sat back to enjoy the view and guess what? Yep, you guessed it. Damn thing froze up AGAIN.
So, a full reinstall (not just the patch) makes no damn difference. This latest version of Exodus can be described in one word. CRAP. Plain and simple.
This player ain't gonna renew his subscription while this issue is on-going.
Come on folks. Vote with your feet. If lots of subscribers threaten to leave maybe CCP will give us some info on what they are doing about these glitches. That'll help a little. All we want to know is that they are aware of the problems and are on top of the job. Their silence just makes things worse.
Or are they having serious issues with this and can't fix it?
Enquiring minds want to know...
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Shinca
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Posted - 2004.12.05 12:10:00 -
[195]
I am also having the same problem... Game freezes every 5-10 min for 20 seconds or more. Even Alt-Tab doesn't work and every now and then even mouse cursor freezes. When I was running the game in full screen I had to reset my PC a few times. Running it in windowed mode helps a bit - after 20-30 seconds I can usualy switch to Task Manager and kill EVE and not have to reset PC.
Never had any problems until Exodus came out. All other programs run normaly. Just EVE has problems. Basicaly the game is unplayable. And it's not lag since it also happens in station (with station environment switched off). Unless ofcourse EVE freezes when it's waiting for some response from server...
Well, I have 2 months left on my current subscription and if they don't fix it in that time I'll stop playing. It's sad to have to leave a game you like(d) so I hope they find the problem.
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(X.x)
(> <) WTB cookbook with bunny recipes |
Shinca
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Posted - 2004.12.05 12:10:00 -
[196]
I am also having the same problem... Game freezes every 5-10 min for 20 seconds or more. Even Alt-Tab doesn't work and every now and then even mouse cursor freezes. When I was running the game in full screen I had to reset my PC a few times. Running it in windowed mode helps a bit - after 20-30 seconds I can usualy switch to Task Manager and kill EVE and not have to reset PC.
Never had any problems until Exodus came out. All other programs run normaly. Just EVE has problems. Basicaly the game is unplayable. And it's not lag since it also happens in station (with station environment switched off). Unless ofcourse EVE freezes when it's waiting for some response from server...
Well, I have 2 months left on my current subscription and if they don't fix it in that time I'll stop playing. It's sad to have to leave a game you like(d) so I hope they find the problem.
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(X.x)
(> <) WTB cookbook with bunny recipes |
Nomadic
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Posted - 2004.12.05 14:19:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Allaina
I went into prefs.ini and serched for "sun", when I found the setting I made the change. I've noticed a few times, even with the prefs.ini setting and the 'esc' screen both having sun occlusion turned off I STILL GET SUN OCCLUSION! You know what happens when I still get it? The game crashes when I try to warp away from a station.
Allaina, I belive you are 100% correct, that sun occlusion has to be the cause of the problem.
I did a little testing and noticed that if the sun is in view, and I try to warp, it locks. If I'm already warping, and the sun just starts to come into view, it locks. I end up hitting <CTRL> <ALT> <DEL> which brings up the W2K options for lock screen, etc. When I do this, I can still hear the game warping, etc in the background. As long as I switch back to the game when the sun is not view, it works.
I edited my prefs.ini file, and added the line sunOcclsion=1, but that still does not seem to make a difference in game.
Any more ideas?
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Nomadic
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Posted - 2004.12.05 14:19:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Allaina
I went into prefs.ini and serched for "sun", when I found the setting I made the change. I've noticed a few times, even with the prefs.ini setting and the 'esc' screen both having sun occlusion turned off I STILL GET SUN OCCLUSION! You know what happens when I still get it? The game crashes when I try to warp away from a station.
Allaina, I belive you are 100% correct, that sun occlusion has to be the cause of the problem.
I did a little testing and noticed that if the sun is in view, and I try to warp, it locks. If I'm already warping, and the sun just starts to come into view, it locks. I end up hitting <CTRL> <ALT> <DEL> which brings up the W2K options for lock screen, etc. When I do this, I can still hear the game warping, etc in the background. As long as I switch back to the game when the sun is not view, it works.
I edited my prefs.ini file, and added the line sunOcclsion=1, but that still does not seem to make a difference in game.
Any more ideas?
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Dichromus Mars
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Posted - 2004.12.05 15:30:00 -
[199]
This Forum is being more than helpful trying to come up with answers. All the suggestions and possible solutions to the problem are highly commendable and most welcome. I thank you all.
But aren't we missing the point here?
It is not OUR problem. It is THEIRS.
We are paying customers for a service that we are, quite frankly, not receiving. It is up to CCP to solve the problem ASAP as I am sure they are well aware of.
From all the posts on this topic it becomes obvious to me that there is nothing wrong with our computers. Nothing at all.
There is a fundamental fault with the 3007 patch. That is now abundantly clear.
This is a fine game. I enjoy it immensely as thousands of others do.
So PLEASE CCP, fix it will ya?
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Dichromus Mars
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Posted - 2004.12.05 15:30:00 -
[200]
This Forum is being more than helpful trying to come up with answers. All the suggestions and possible solutions to the problem are highly commendable and most welcome. I thank you all.
But aren't we missing the point here?
It is not OUR problem. It is THEIRS.
We are paying customers for a service that we are, quite frankly, not receiving. It is up to CCP to solve the problem ASAP as I am sure they are well aware of.
From all the posts on this topic it becomes obvious to me that there is nothing wrong with our computers. Nothing at all.
There is a fundamental fault with the 3007 patch. That is now abundantly clear.
This is a fine game. I enjoy it immensely as thousands of others do.
So PLEASE CCP, fix it will ya?
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Randy Shaftoe
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Posted - 2004.12.05 16:35:00 -
[201]
Beeing a Software Developer myself ( not Games, but I think this is correct for the whole dev's community ), I like the Eve-Community espessially ( how this word is spelled ? ) for the constructive forum-topics and replies.
I have more-or-less the same prob, but my graphic card is an ATI Radeon VE ( so not supported in general ).
But anyway, the constructive Posts in this thread are the best signs for a great community.
CU
Randy
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Randy Shaftoe
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Posted - 2004.12.05 16:35:00 -
[202]
Beeing a Software Developer myself ( not Games, but I think this is correct for the whole dev's community ), I like the Eve-Community espessially ( how this word is spelled ? ) for the constructive forum-topics and replies.
I have more-or-less the same prob, but my graphic card is an ATI Radeon VE ( so not supported in general ).
But anyway, the constructive Posts in this thread are the best signs for a great community.
CU
Randy
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.12.05 23:21:00 -
[203]
Originally by: xerud filth
nah it aints lag at all, mines is an up to date computer too, i recently (within the last half an hour) solved the problem by downloading ati catalyst 4.10, one i had overlooked.....
i run windows me, so for the ME users out there try that...
Same here.
Downloaded and installed the ATI Catalyst 4.10 and had no more problems, not jumping, not exiting stations.
ATI RAdeon 8500 , win 98 se
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.12.05 23:21:00 -
[204]
Originally by: xerud filth
nah it aints lag at all, mines is an up to date computer too, i recently (within the last half an hour) solved the problem by downloading ati catalyst 4.10, one i had overlooked.....
i run windows me, so for the ME users out there try that...
Same here.
Downloaded and installed the ATI Catalyst 4.10 and had no more problems, not jumping, not exiting stations.
ATI RAdeon 8500 , win 98 se
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sam uel
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Posted - 2004.12.06 03:22:00 -
[205]
This fix solved my problem. Disable "Ship Occludes the Sun".
Crash no more.
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sam uel
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Posted - 2004.12.06 03:22:00 -
[206]
This fix solved my problem. Disable "Ship Occludes the Sun".
Crash no more.
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Irina Derechkova
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Posted - 2004.12.06 10:58:00 -
[207]
I confirm this.
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Irina Derechkova
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Posted - 2004.12.06 10:58:00 -
[208]
I confirm this.
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Master Zowel
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Posted - 2004.12.06 11:28:00 -
[209]
I have the same problems, yesterday over 30 crashes with Radeon 9000 and Omega 2.5.36b... but i was lucky, no losses so far.
So we have the following proposals:
- install the latest full version of eve client
- install the latest omega drivers
- disable 'sun is occluded by ships'
- use the Alt+Enter workaround
I'll try a few things and report my results here. I'd like to hear a word from CCP about this - it's just impossible for a pirate that the client keeps crashing!
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Master Zowel
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Posted - 2004.12.06 11:28:00 -
[210]
I have the same problems, yesterday over 30 crashes with Radeon 9000 and Omega 2.5.36b... but i was lucky, no losses so far.
So we have the following proposals:
- install the latest full version of eve client
- install the latest omega drivers
- disable 'sun is occluded by ships'
- use the Alt+Enter workaround
I'll try a few things and report my results here. I'd like to hear a word from CCP about this - it's just impossible for a pirate that the client keeps crashing!
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Jonathan swat
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Posted - 2004.12.06 12:04:00 -
[211]
So where do i change this "sun occlusion" ???
What we do in life echoes in Eternity |
Jonathan swat
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Posted - 2004.12.06 12:04:00 -
[212]
So where do i change this "sun occlusion" ???
What we do in life echoes in Eternity |
modena
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Posted - 2004.12.06 12:44:00 -
[213]
\o/ The sun is the answer.
To turn off press escape then untick "Sun Occluded by ships" Its on the general (left hand tab from memory. All it does is when your ship passes in front of a sun it doesnt block the light :)
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modena
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Posted - 2004.12.06 12:44:00 -
[214]
\o/ The sun is the answer.
To turn off press escape then untick "Sun Occluded by ships" Its on the general (left hand tab from memory. All it does is when your ship passes in front of a sun it doesnt block the light :)
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.06 15:43:00 -
[215]
Originally by: modena
\o/ The sun is the answer.
To turn off press escape then untick "Sun Occluded by ships" Its on the general (left hand tab from memory. All it does is when your ship passes in front of a sun it doesnt block the light :)
Don't forget to change the setting in prefs.ini. The problem with the latest shiva patch has been the "Sun Occluded by ships" setting on the esc menu is being overridden. I had the setting turned off on the esc menu and was getting this lockup issue. It was not until I found the setting in prefs.ini and changed it that stability returned.
Also I have noticed (as stated previously by me) that occasionally the game still exhibits sun occlusion even with the prefs.ini and esc menu showing the setting being turned off. If this is the case I close eve before it has a chance to close on me. Quitting the game is faster than the lockup/ctrl-alt-del/endprocess cycle. I have yet to have this setting turn on in the middle of a gameing session, so the first time I exit a station I check to see if the light from the sun is blocked by my ship. If not I continue gamming, quite happily I might add. If it does, quit and restart eve.
I am personally 100% convinced that sun occlusion is the problem. It looks nice, and I wish it worked, but it is far more important that I can actually play the game.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.06 15:43:00 -
[216]
Originally by: modena
\o/ The sun is the answer.
To turn off press escape then untick "Sun Occluded by ships" Its on the general (left hand tab from memory. All it does is when your ship passes in front of a sun it doesnt block the light :)
Don't forget to change the setting in prefs.ini. The problem with the latest shiva patch has been the "Sun Occluded by ships" setting on the esc menu is being overridden. I had the setting turned off on the esc menu and was getting this lockup issue. It was not until I found the setting in prefs.ini and changed it that stability returned.
Also I have noticed (as stated previously by me) that occasionally the game still exhibits sun occlusion even with the prefs.ini and esc menu showing the setting being turned off. If this is the case I close eve before it has a chance to close on me. Quitting the game is faster than the lockup/ctrl-alt-del/endprocess cycle. I have yet to have this setting turn on in the middle of a gameing session, so the first time I exit a station I check to see if the light from the sun is blocked by my ship. If not I continue gamming, quite happily I might add. If it does, quit and restart eve.
I am personally 100% convinced that sun occlusion is the problem. It looks nice, and I wish it worked, but it is far more important that I can actually play the game.
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Posted - 2004.12.06 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Sweriskaka on 06/12/2004 16:43:28
Edited by: Sweriskaka on 06/12/2004 16:42:50
Originally by: sam uel
This fix solved my problem. Disable "Ship Occludes the Sun".
Crash no more.
I second that. I have not experienced any black screens after I've deactivated this effect. I actually activated the effect yesterday and today I started getting problems. I have a GeForce2 MX 32 MB and have not experienced ANY problems with drivers.
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Sweriskaka
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Posted - 2004.12.06 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Sweriskaka on 06/12/2004 16:43:28
Edited by: Sweriskaka on 06/12/2004 16:42:50
Originally by: sam uel
This fix solved my problem. Disable "Ship Occludes the Sun".
Crash no more.
I second that. I have not experienced any black screens after I've deactivated this effect. I actually activated the effect yesterday and today I started getting problems. I have a GeForce2 MX 32 MB and have not experienced ANY problems with drivers.
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:55:00 -
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I'm using Nvidia Geforce FX 5600 256mb vid card and sometimes my game totally crashes the computer. Nothing wrong with the computer although I have to restart it each time it happens. All I do is exiting/undocking a station. I can't say if the sun is involved as I (currently) can't remember if the station exit/camera were facing it when I docked.
This glitch/bug/cookie is not just ATI related.
--- Morph
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:55:00 -
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I'm using Nvidia Geforce FX 5600 256mb vid card and sometimes my game totally crashes the computer. Nothing wrong with the computer although I have to restart it each time it happens. All I do is exiting/undocking a station. I can't say if the sun is involved as I (currently) can't remember if the station exit/camera were facing it when I docked.
This glitch/bug/cookie is not just ATI related.
--- Morph
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2004.12.07 02:31:00 -
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Right, my client just froze, I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del a few times and got this nice little blue screen:
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A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
The problem seems to be caused by the following file: nv4_disp
If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:
The device driver got stuck in an infinite loop. This usually indicates problem with the device itself or with the device driver programming the hardware incorrectly.
Please check with your hardware device vendor for any driver updates.
Technical information:
***STOP: 0x000000EA (0x85C63DA8, 0x85A0A3A0, 0x85C35BE8, 0x00000001)
nv4_disp
Beginning dump of physical memory
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Restarted at no more blue screenie.
Now, the thing is, I didn't have this problem yesterday. So it just recently surfaced due to some unkown thing. Did CCP do something serverside?
--- Morph
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2004.12.07 02:31:00 -
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Right, my client just froze, I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del a few times and got this nice little blue screen:
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A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
The problem seems to be caused by the following file: nv4_disp
If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:
The device driver got stuck in an infinite loop. This usually indicates problem with the device itself or with the device driver programming the hardware incorrectly.
Please check with your hardware device vendor for any driver updates.
Technical information:
***STOP: 0x000000EA (0x85C63DA8, 0x85A0A3A0, 0x85C35BE8, 0x00000001)
nv4_disp
Beginning dump of physical memory
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Restarted at no more blue screenie.
Now, the thing is, I didn't have this problem yesterday. So it just recently surfaced due to some unkown thing. Did CCP do something serverside?
--- Morph
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Indorax
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:07:00 -
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i turned off the sun occulsion in the generic tab when u press the esc button and was playin for like 4 hours without any crashes now :> i'm not too sure how u turn it off in the pref.ini tho as someone mentioned somewhere in this thread, but this is workin for me now, so i'll suggest that everyone gives this a go! As other ppl have said, i think this is def the problem
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Indorax
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Posted - 2004.12.07 14:07:00 -
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i turned off the sun occulsion in the generic tab when u press the esc button and was playin for like 4 hours without any crashes now :> i'm not too sure how u turn it off in the pref.ini tho as someone mentioned somewhere in this thread, but this is workin for me now, so i'll suggest that everyone gives this a go! As other ppl have said, i think this is def the problem
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:27:00 -
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I already did disable that sun thing (although I couldn't find it anywhere in prefs.ini - strange). The problem remained.
Funny though it hasn't happened on my Amarr character only on my Gallente character. Could it be the stations? *shrug*
(Racial bonuses eh?)
--- Morph
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:27:00 -
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I already did disable that sun thing (although I couldn't find it anywhere in prefs.ini - strange). The problem remained.
Funny though it hasn't happened on my Amarr character only on my Gallente character. Could it be the stations? *shrug*
(Racial bonuses eh?)
--- Morph
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.08 19:52:00 -
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Hi,
disabling the sun setting seems to do the trick for me too...
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Drakip
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Posted - 2004.12.08 19:52:00 -
[228]
Hi,
disabling the sun setting seems to do the trick for me too...
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Titus Lewis
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Posted - 2004.12.13 03:15:00 -
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OK, I disabled the sun setting, and installed the latest Cata drivers for my Radeon card, but I still get the freezes. When I rotate around to check, I still seem to blot out the sun so the "feature" is not disabled even though I disabled it. I can't seem to find the file to change in the .ini so now I'm a bit stuck.
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Titus Lewis
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Posted - 2004.12.13 03:15:00 -
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OK, I disabled the sun setting, and installed the latest Cata drivers for my Radeon card, but I still get the freezes. When I rotate around to check, I still seem to blot out the sun so the "feature" is not disabled even though I disabled it. I can't seem to find the file to change in the .ini so now I'm a bit stuck.
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ShunToch
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Posted - 2004.12.13 04:14:00 -
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OK I did that but to honest I started this nad figured that out a long time ago =(, and I should have posted my findings but I did forget this post. In any case it is the sun that is causing the crash and have not had one since I disabled the setting.
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ShunToch
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Posted - 2004.12.13 04:14:00 -
[232]
OK I did that but to honest I started this nad figured that out a long time ago =(, and I should have posted my findings but I did forget this post. In any case it is the sun that is causing the crash and have not had one since I disabled the setting.
For those about to Fire, We will cure you. |
Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:17:00 -
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I've had a ressurection of this problem. Now, no matter what I do sometimes the client insists on starting with sun occlusion setting. This is getting REALLY frustrating. I wish a word from CCP on this would be forthcomming.
EVERY time I have sun occlusion my game hangs, without fail, 100% repeatable. The only thing I can't reproduce is WHY the client will sometimes start with sun occlusion and sometimes not. I'm at my wit's end.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:17:00 -
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I've had a ressurection of this problem. Now, no matter what I do sometimes the client insists on starting with sun occlusion setting. This is getting REALLY frustrating. I wish a word from CCP on this would be forthcomming.
EVERY time I have sun occlusion my game hangs, without fail, 100% repeatable. The only thing I can't reproduce is WHY the client will sometimes start with sun occlusion and sometimes not. I'm at my wit's end.
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PhalHell
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Posted - 2004.12.19 22:16:00 -
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I tried all these mentioned solutions and both my computers keep crashing.
What I don't understand is that CCP is not even reacting on it...
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PhalHell
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Posted - 2004.12.19 22:16:00 -
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I tried all these mentioned solutions and both my computers keep crashing.
What I don't understand is that CCP is not even reacting on it...
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modena
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:03:00 -
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Should sunOccluded= be 0 or 1 in the prefs file ?
Even though its switched off ingame it comes on of its own free will and i crash when i undock still
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modena
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Posted - 2004.12.20 11:03:00 -
[238]
Should sunOccluded= be 0 or 1 in the prefs file ?
Even though its switched off ingame it comes on of its own free will and i crash when i undock still
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Shinca
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Posted - 2004.12.23 08:29:00 -
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Well, it turned out that in my case the problems with EVE freezing was (most likely) because of the graphics card. I can't be 100% sure but I played for a while, did some things where it would freeze for sure with the old graphic card and everything was OK. I don't know why or how it worked before exodus but my guess is it has something to do with the new graphic features like rings around planets and such.
There might be other causes in different cases but I suggest that you borrow a different graphics card just to make sure the problem isn't there. Oh, just for the info - everything was working OK on my PC but a few days ago I installed another game which was graphicaly demanding and the same thing happened - PC was freezing every few minutes.
Hope this helps some of you.
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Shinca
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Posted - 2004.12.23 08:29:00 -
[240]
Well, it turned out that in my case the problems with EVE freezing was (most likely) because of the graphics card. I can't be 100% sure but I played for a while, did some things where it would freeze for sure with the old graphic card and everything was OK. I don't know why or how it worked before exodus but my guess is it has something to do with the new graphic features like rings around planets and such.
There might be other causes in different cases but I suggest that you borrow a different graphics card just to make sure the problem isn't there. Oh, just for the info - everything was working OK on my PC but a few days ago I installed another game which was graphicaly demanding and the same thing happened - PC was freezing every few minutes.
Hope this helps some of you.
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Arlech Mygou
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Posted - 2005.01.13 09:15:00 -
[241]
Im having the same problem with a Radeon 9000 (non mob.)...
Crashes when exiting the station have been solved by the "sun occlusion" setting, BUT i still get occasional system hangs while warping.
Yesterday during a trip of 15 warps, i crashed 5-6 times. This is not acceptable, please ccp do something about that.
Im trying now to install catalyst drivers 4.10... hope that works.
Oh and please can you stick this topic?
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LiNkIsMaXiMuS
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Posted - 2005.01.14 04:22:00 -
[242]
Wow great and i thought i was the only one....well i think im late on the wagon here but i also have an ati radeon 9200 i told ccp about the problem 1st b4 i came here they told me to update drivers and put low planet details. Okay so i did this and that got the catalyst drivers 4.1 and i STILL ******* freeze wut the hell is going on? Like seriously this is *** its worthless to play if everytime you undock you have to restart your computer, anyways i havent tried the "occuluded sun" thingy but that is next... if any1 else find anymore work around please by god post them since CCP is leaving it to do it on our own since they seem not to care that WE pay them. 
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Xenome
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Posted - 2005.01.14 11:14:00 -
[243]
Well getting the new drivers worked for me and ive tried to on purpose to crash now for one hole day and nothing, im on a dell 8500 with mobile radeon 9000. Settings on Low and ive edited the prefs.ini file for half my mem and my windowed size. Works now and im playing like crazy :)
Xenome
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Derek Ulnar
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Posted - 2005.01.14 20:19:00 -
[244]
Catalyst 4.10 fixed all my problems.
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.01.17 00:09:00 -
[245]
Omega drivers along with these part of Brunis's sticky post solved for me. Btw I m using an M6-P mobility (oldschool ) and had the crashing " feature "  as well.
Originally by: Brunis
Edited by: Brunis on 21/11/2004 23:41:42
Oki i have played around with this for quite some while and ive made a list of stuff that will help increasing your FPS in Eve.
These changes should hold most of you unstill Shiva when the client side fixes (that people talk about) for FPS should get in game.
Okay here we go
Tips for good FPS in Eve:
 To tjeck at what FPS your Eve is running press "CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-M" - This will pop up a small windows showing FPS, it can also show other usefull stuff.
Turn of "Sun is occluded by ships" in the ESC menu under generic - This should boost your FPS a little while in-space[Newly added since i forgot to add this the first time]
Turn off sound card or just do a CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-F12 in-game (EVERYTIME you start Eve!) - Eve seems to have problems with most sound cards so changing this should free some resources. Remember to tjeck the FPS counter with this option though, you might just be one of the lucky with a sound card that Eve works with.
Put in advancedDevice=1 (notice the lowercase a and upper case D) in your prefs.ini now some new settings have appeared in the graphics options in the ESC menu, change the "present interval" to intervel immediate - This one boosted my FPS alot! "Interval immediate" means "no vsync". "Interval one" means wait for vsync. "Interval default" is probably vsync on, depending on your display setup. For the full explanation see D3DPRESENT_PARAMETERS in the DXSDK. <-- Thank you to Mark A for the info about what it does.
Change desktopHeight and desktopWidth to match thoes of your desktop in the prefs.ini - If your running your windows in 1600 x 1200 then change the settings to match those.
Change buffersize to half of what RAM you may have in the prefs.ini - So if you have 512MB RAM then you change it to 256MB
Disable any secondary display - This will give your GFX card less work to do but unless CPU is not your bottleneck this should not help much.
If posible upgrade your machine to 1024MB RAM or more - Eve uses alot of memory so upgrading to 1024MB or more should help quite a bit.
If sound card enabled try and turn off any hardware acc on it in "dxdiag" - Look at the other bit where i explained sound cards.
When in-game press CTRL-Tab to get rid of the UI (only if you can live without the scanner) - Eve seems to have some issues with the transparentcy in the UI, using this removes most of the UI and frees a lot of resources.
Close every program posible in Windows since Eve is VERY CPU demanding - Even stopping stuff like Winamp and mIRC will help, so close everything you don't need!
Run the game in full screen - This seems to boost the FPS for some reason but probely just Windows alocating more resources to Eve.
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Boa VII
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Posted - 2005.01.20 12:37:00 -
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Definately something to do with Sun causing crashes, mostly on ATI Mobility cards. Totally agree with Alaina (read previous posts!).
Make sure you have Sun Occlured by ships off/unticked, clever people may want to amend the prefs.ini file with sunOcclusion=1 (you'll find this file in the cache folder). It also looks like the game reactivates the setting at will. Very annoying!! 
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Jonask'ri
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Posted - 2005.01.24 01:24:00 -
[247]
ATI Mobility 9100 , crashes every time on undock....
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Relavahn
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Posted - 2005.01.24 18:59:00 -
[248]
The Omega drivers allowed for flawless gameplay for hour yesterday. It was great.
Beware though: two of my roomates have the exact same laptop as mine (school policy.) Neither of them had a flawless installation of the drivers like myself, and one could not get past startup afterward. Potentially, the drivers are awesome, but they may not work for everyone.
Worth a shot though....
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Jonask'ri
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Posted - 2005.01.25 12:28:00 -
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Please do tell of your ingame settings
The VPU recover of the omega drivers is a gem...allows me to try other options...but so far no success :(
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Jonask'ri > Signature time "Redwolf - In Search of C_ck" |
Chesik Nal
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Posted - 2005.01.25 23:53:00 -
[250]
Hi Guys,
Interestingly, I have been having very similar problems with a GeForce 6800 LE card. I ran the logging utility CCP supply and captured a number of stack dumps in the runtime. The funny thing is until today I thought my problem was purely with Fatal XP resets, however today I had a window freeze. It seems this "feature" may have a darker side when introduced to the 6800. I think it may be a repeat failure during flight/maps and 3d graphics. I suspect its memory scribbling and somtimes it resets you, sometimes it kills the window. If you are lucky it recovers. The support guys have asked me to do some bits to help track my issue, but I think this may be a more general 3D graphic engine problem.
If you go to the CCP directory you will find a tool called logserver.exe. Try running this and create a new workspace. Then run eve, it will run like a dog but hey... This will produce a log of all the internal events that can be saved after a crash. You can then send this to CCP as you are then giving then a trace to find the problem with..
Cheers,
Rob
N.B.: I'll try some of the graphics settings tomorrow.... This problem is really hacking me off, I don't get much time to play normally.
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Jonask'ri
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Posted - 2005.01.26 05:12:00 -
[251]
My CTD's are directly related to those fancy nebula clours/effects introduced in Exodus.
Would really appreciate the option to turn them off.
Other ATI users, please try confirm this. My crashes only happen whenever I look at a nebula or other background effect (This is with sun occlusion off)
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Barker Ren
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Posted - 2005.01.31 00:41:00 -
[252]
Station bug still exists..how long has it been now??
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