You can quit but what are you going to play? There is no game around like EVE Online, and despite the things people dislike about it...it's still quite a fantastic game.

Quitting isn't going to change anything. Stick around so your voice can be heard. Although I don't quite think the issue is as big as you make it out to be. The only place I see PVP being an issue is in High Sec. But it should be an issue there...its HIGH SECURITY space.
CCP will eventually make low sec worth going to, that should bring more pvp. Maybe they will drop navy ships from high sec so FW can take place everywhere, that could increase more pvp fun. Not sure about null since I don't go there but I hear the lack of pvp out there is due to nobody willing to have wars.
You can quit but what are you going to play? There is no game around like EVE Online, and despite the things people dislike about it...it's still quite a fantastic game.

Hilarious. At least you still have NPC null I guess...

That's not how it works when content-creating players leave the game.

Or they could go about trying to make low sec more appealing by ... well adding measures that help reduce "pvp" (note that some people don't think ganking and gate camping are "actually pvp". Maybe some other form of combat will be added into the "not actual pvp" category which then expands incrementally to cover almost all ship-to-ship non-beneficial interactions.

Hilarious. At least you still have NPC null I guess...

Oh god, please don't give them ideas, please.

Damn...[/sadface]

For those not familiar, the OP is the author of one of the few threads in F&I that is NOT complete and utter puling carebear garbage.

I was just about to plug it in another discussion, but...yeah. (You really should go see that thread, and bump it, though, just on principle. And if you don't see why that is so, then you can **** off back to WoW.)

We need more players like this, not less, but once again, ::CCP:: seems to be crawling up the arse of the "we can Do Mainstream(TM), too!!111oneoneone!" delusion -- because that worked so outstandingly well the last time!

What is left for people like us, people who get the sandbox, and thrive within it, in whatever manner? Less and less, that I can see.

I think I'll go with what Desti said, though, and do similarly:

Give it time --I do love mah losec solo exploration-corner of the sandbox, too-- to see what goes.

(And if the High Command in Reyki were to tell...certain parties...that they have 45 minutes to clean out their desks before Security escorts them from the building, then that would not go amiss, either)

o7, Pilot.

Hopefully there'll be something you can come back to eventually, because I think/I hope/I pray that CCP will realise that this new centre they're trying to build, cannot possibly hold.

Why is this?

Because when you take away what makes the sandbox what it is, what gives the community the incentive to make it so, then you are left with --all that you are left with-- Is...

...

...

A not-that-great game whose age is really starting to show. And that's it.

I think that the data would show that in the long run, older players end up spending much more money over the lifetime of their playing the game than the hordes of new players.

learn to adapt, scrub. EVE pvp was FAR too easy for pirates as it was. With this change, gamers who pvp might not think EVE is such a skilles POS as they currently do when it comes to pvp.

Again, showing absolute ignorance with every post you make.

I appreciate your kind words. I really do. But the only thing that CCP understands is money, and the only thing I can do is vote with my cash and take it elsewhere. Frankly, I think it would be an interesting exercise to study how much money CCP makes per person, over the lifetime of that person playing the game, and see just how much money is spent by the older (in Eve play time) players with multiple accounts and long term accounts, vs. younger players that play for a few months and drop it.

I think that the data would show that in the long run, older players end up spending much more money over the lifetime of their playing the game than the hordes of new players.

Wouldn't want to make yourself look "skilles" on the EVEO General Discussion forums, would you?

CCP HAS to keep their eye on the prize and at the end of the day the prize is money. They don't keep Eve running off of love, money is the fuel that the servers burn to keep operating. The game must evolve and its denziens must adapt. New players will come and some of them will become long term players.

Right. Hence, I'm cancelling my subs.

Posting in Goons ruined Eve thread.

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You can quit but what are you going to play? There is no game around like EVE Online, and despite the things people dislike about it...it's still quite a fantastic game.

That's the elephant in the room that CCP --and a lot of us, it would seem-- refuse to acknowledge:

Your statement --at least theoretically-- is not entirely true, anymore:

The Repopulation
Darkfall
Infinity: Quest for Earth (Why, oh why, can this incredible thing not get out of vapour-ware)
SW: Gemu


CCP may soon not be the only game in town.

Remember what happened to the Detroit car-makers in the mid-to-late 1970s? They refused to see that they weren't the only game in town after the late 1960s, and that their products, when faced with actual competition, just weren't all that great.

I don't want to see CCP go the way of GM, American Motors Corp., and the old --the real-- Chrysler Corporation. (CCP is the old-school Mopar musclecar --******* HEMI/4-SPEED 'CUDA, biotch!-- of the MMO world, but those too, are but a fond, increasingly rose-tinted memory.)

The reasons are the same --they refused to evolve, and when they finally saw that they had to, it was in all the wrong ways, and far too late.

Might CCP be heading towards its version of the 1978-80 oil embargo?

We've already had the one in 1973-75 (IE, Incarna), and it may be that they really haven't learned from that debacle, just like Detroit.

I don't want CCP to end up some rusty, fuel-swilling, can't-corner/stop/pass-a-petrol-pump-to-save-its-arse clunker in the back row of that auto-dealership in the wrong part of town that barely runs that they can't give away, because people have seen just how inferior a product it really is, in the face of actual, meritorious competition.

E:

******* forum still tries to eat posts >100 words that take more than 5 minutes to write. For ****'s sake, case in point!

From what you describe, Eve pvp has not changed at all, only your perception of it has, because, well frankly, you're not too bright.

There are tons of people having pvp fun in eve outside of fleet fights and outside being a worthless player who wants to keep playing like he has for 8 years,

Adapt or die.

Players wil either adapt or unsub and more ppl will try the game and like it.

It's always funny to see someone from the CFC, with their endless ship replacement programs, lecturing other folks on PvP.