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Raging Alcoholic
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Posted - 2005.01.30 18:10:00 -
[421]
 Originally by: Noriath
The devs just love to screw over Gallante, we all know that...
I wonder if a blasterthron will have enough cap at all to bust through the increased hitpoints of other races.
It wont.
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Kirive
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Posted - 2005.01.30 20:58:00 -
[422]
Signed. One day i will be able to fly a mega - and while i will be proud to do so, i'd like to be confident that it will hold its own in combat.
- K
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.01.30 21:56:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Noriath
The devs just love to screw over Gallante, we all know that...
I wonder if a blasterthron will have enough cap at all to bust through the increased hitpoints of other races.
It already has a hard time busting through a shield tank or an apoc before running out of cap or dying first.
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Masimo
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Posted - 2005.01.30 23:55:00 -
[424]
SIGNED!!!!
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Fuze Rogue
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Posted - 2005.01.31 01:45:00 -
[425]
Edited by: Fuze Rogue on 31/01/2005 01:46:15
Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: OnDa Rag
Originally by: Noriath
Edited by: Noriath on 28/01/2005 20:20:28
Originally by: OnDa Rag
To Sum Up The Last 20 Pages:
 Increase Gal BS. Base Speeds or Increase Cap For MWD
Increase Hybrid Tracking
Decrease Hybrid Cap Usage
Make 500m3 BS Killing Drones
Hmm . . .maybe it would help if someone translated these suggestions into another language . . .
Erh÷ht die Gallante Schlachtschiffgeschwindigkeit oder den Energiespeicher f³r MWD.
Erh÷ht die Ausrichtungsgeschwindigkeit f³r Hybride Gesch³tze.
Verringert den Energieverbrauch f³r Hybride Gesch³tze.
F³hrt 500m¦ Schlachtschiff-killer Dronen ein.
Hm, so, it's in German now, does that help? haha ;)
Nice!!! Thanks Noriath!!! Can I have a few more translations in some other languages?!?!? 
Due to public demand:
Íka Gallente slagskepps bas hastighet eller minska energikõrnans f÷rbrukning f÷r MWD
Íka hybridvapnens vridhastighet
Minska hybridvapnens energikõrnekrav
Inf÷r 500 kubikmeters m÷rdardr÷nare
Swedish.
Oh, and the last few pages of "signed"...
/me signs
Can't remember actually writing that, but there it is. And not very surprising
Augmentez la vitesse de base ou augmentez l'Únergie pour l'utilisation du MWD sur les nef-de-guerres Gallente.
Augmentez la precision des tourelles hybride.
Diminuez l'Únergie utilisÚ par les tourelles hybride.
CrÚez des drones 500m3 tueurs de nef-de-guerres.
Translated into old-fashioned Gallantean now. 
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j0nb0y
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Posted - 2005.01.31 02:54:00 -
[426]
oh good god SIGNED.
I fit my megathron with 7 modal electrons and ur standard med and low setup. I cant ***** a decent apoc/raven tanker.
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Factory Boy
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Posted - 2005.01.31 03:31:00 -
[427]
Signed, please fix the large porcelain god!
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WizEye
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Posted - 2005.01.31 03:50:00 -
[428]
SIGNED,
make us proud of flying a mega.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.01.31 03:56:00 -
[429]
Je Suis Baguette?
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jamesw
Rubra Libertas Militia
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:40:00 -
[430]
my main thing with the mega is its tracking is **** poor and people using lasers use less cap than i do plus never run out of ammo
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Kirex
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Posted - 2005.01.31 06:14:00 -
[431]
Originally by: OnDa Rag
Wow, we are up to 20 pages now. Hmm, do ya think they hope to ignore this till we give up and go away?
To Sum Up The Last 20 Pages:
Increase Gal BS. Base Speeds or Increase Cap For MWD
Increase Hybrid Tracking
Decrease Hybrid Cap Usage
Make 500m3 BS Killing Drones
Hmm . . .maybe it would help if someone translated these suggestions into another language . . .
signed...
im deciding if i should should continue my training for a gallente BS.....or train for an Amarr BS
because with the HP changes and uber Amarr weapons, cap, and ships.....Gallente BS's do not stand a chance against Amarr BS's.
Amarr 4 teh win!!!!!
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.01.31 06:34:00 -
[432]
Don't learn Amarr BS.
Bandwagon pilots suck and get no respect.
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Shadow Crow
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Posted - 2005.01.31 08:38:00 -
[433]
Signed.
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Pimp Mustafa
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Posted - 2005.01.31 09:34:00 -
[434]
signed - mebbie the dom may even be a fearful bs once again instead of an easy kill.
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Olivin
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Posted - 2005.01.31 11:01:00 -
[435]
Originally by: OnDa Rag
Increase Gal BS. Base Speeds or Increase Cap For MWD
Increase Hybrid Tracking
Decrease Hybrid Cap Usage
Make 500m3 BS Killing Drones
Hmm . . .maybe it would help if someone translated these suggestions into another language . . .
in Russian:
Увеличить крейсерскую скорость или увеличить емкость конденсатора.
Улучшить отслеживание перемещения цели для Гибридных пушек и бластеров
Уменьшить затраты конденсатора на обслуживание Гибридных пушек и бластеров
Предоставить новых дронов линкор-класса (500 м3)
and SIGNED!
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Cleric
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:27:00 -
[436]
Come on CCP this aint gonna go away anytime soon and I refuse to train up for any other race! Whats so hard about tweaking the megathron and doing it soon. It doesn't take 6 months to change a few damn values and you have all the best suggestions made for you in this thread. The work has been done for you, pick the best option and enter the damn numbers! You have done this to Gallente pilots with your constant 'balancing' the least you could do is fix it and fix it soon 
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Masanori Fukushima
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:31:00 -
[437]
Signed.. I've got a Megathron and it is inferior to other topline BS's
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Alyssa Keliaster
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:39:00 -
[438]
I used gall BS to start, id love to be able to use em again. My first ever BS was a Dominix, however it seems the dom is now just a weak puppy against any other tier 1 BS. As for the Mega, well I havent even tried em due to their effective nerfing as Mission runners with deadspace being no-MWD zones.
So much for "Balancing" the ships out.
So,
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Stro3der
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:41:00 -
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Signed, though im a minmatar i fly gallente everything, and BS will be no exception. Dont want to fix it with a "learn to fly something else" solution. 
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Hapciupaliticu
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Posted - 2005.01.31 16:01:00 -
[440]
First of all ... "Well its taken them well over 6 months to even start thinking about fixing projectiles.. So prepare for very long wait." ... It sucks ..but it's true.
Next... I think CCP mocks us pointing and laughing: What the h3ll are we doing with gallente bs lvl 5 ?
Laser damage > Hybrid damage
Laser range > Hybrid range
Laser cap usage < Hybrid cap usage
Armarr cap > Gallente cap
Armarr tank > Gallente tank
Somebody said earlier ...swap our gallente bs 5 for amarr bs 5 / caldari :P
Is there a gallente pilot who has ONLY gallente bs ? and does not rely on amarr or caldary ?
Too bad we can't say the same of the amarr or caldarians.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.01.31 16:04:00 -
[441]
megathron is meant to be using rails, they also got longer range and you dont need MWD, so shout up and use rails and not blasters, if you want to use blasters thats your problem where you gonna get cap...
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"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.01.31 16:52:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Bad'Boy
megathron is meant to be using rails, they also got longer range and you dont need MWD, so shout up and use rails and not blasters, if you want to use blasters thats your problem where you gonna get cap...
No, not really. Gallentean philosophy is quite clearly Blaster based. Megathron also has a tracking bonus, which implies that it should be better at closer ranges.
In either case, it's not very good with Railguns either. But the trick is that if it is geared to generally to become better in close combat it'll become too good in long range. This is why a cap increase is not really wanted.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:13:00 -
[443]
Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: Bad'Boy
megathron is meant to be using rails, they also got longer range and you dont need MWD, so shout up and use rails and not blasters, if you want to use blasters thats your problem where you gonna get cap...
No, not really. Gallentean philosophy is quite clearly Blaster based. Megathron also has a tracking bonus, which implies that it should be better at closer ranges.
In either case, it's not very good with Railguns either. But the trick is that if it is geared to generally to become better in close combat it'll become too good in long range. This is why a cap increase is not really wanted.
well, if it was meant to be blasterboat, why didnt it get same bonus as thorax?
yea I know thoraxes MWD bonus is new, but they could have changed megas 2 if they wanted it to be blasterboat..
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:39:00 -
[444]
mhh cause Megathron without Tracking or Damage Bonus would sux even more?
Megathron is clearly favoured as Blasterboat
on long range its not that great
Wanna fly with me?
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:02:00 -
[445]
This is how I feel on the situation as of now.
If pulse were actually a short range gun then the mega would suddenly look alot better. I don't have problems with the damage out put of any other weapon just the pulse, coupled with its outstanding range.
Missiles will get an overhaul, and blasters and autocannons are on more or less equal footing. Its those damn pulse, and the large number of bandwagon pilots that makes flying a balsterthron so ineffective.
Yes I support changes to hybrids, and I think they are needed. But right now I think pulse need to be changed more. It not worth it to set up a short range ship when the pulse is so much better, and can be effective at any reasonalbe range.
I love my mega. But I fly amar and am much much more effective in it then a mega. Not to mention its easier to fly and requires less skill points. Turn the pulse into a gun like the blaster or auto cannon, you know, somthing that needs a MWD and a tank to use properally, and I'll be a much happier person. I lve the challange of trying to fit out and use a shor range set up. But I hate the current cookie cutter, warp in at what ever range, amar set ups that are also the most damageing/effective set up in the game.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:29:00 -
[446]
No, the Pulse is a middle range gun, let's keep it that way. It's uniqueness we should strive for. Diversity.
Simply, the pulse does too much damage and/or require too little CPU+PG (A gun that: a) track better b) reach much further c) use no ammo and the same cap as well as d) still do the same damage as a Neutron blaster while requiring much less CPU and PG (LESS POWERGRID!)is just WRONG)
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2005.01.31 19:31:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Hapciupaliticu
Is there a gallente pilot who has ONLY gallente bs ? and does not rely on amarr or caldary ?
Me because I refuse to train another ship (more fool me) just because CCP are nothing short of incompetant wrt. anything remotely Gallente...
I am a Gnats testicle away from giving up (mainly because there is not one Dev response/appology to the shambles surrounding Gal BS's) and training up Minmatar BS's.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.01.31 21:37:00 -
[448]
Yea, I haven't trained anything else either, plus I really *really* want to fly a droneship, so it's a double whammy so to speak.
I'm so frustrated at times that I was about to buy WoW, but that game apearantly sold out in the first three days and they aren't selling any more copies because they need more servers before they can let more players in.
Ah well, at least I have Gallante Indy 5 now, So I can feel all superior "Har har, you ztuupid foolze, ze Gallante can build a bigger boxze with ze enginez on eet!" - till Tech 2 indys come out anyways.
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Valpo'rae
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Posted - 2005.01.31 22:27:00 -
[449]
Originally by: Hapciupaliticu
Next... I think CCP mocks us pointing and laughing: What the h3ll are we doing with gallente bs lvl 5 ?
Somebody said earlier ...swap our gallente bs 5 for amarr bs 5 / caldari :P
Is there a gallente pilot who has ONLY gallente bs ? and does not rely on amarr or caldary ?
Too bad we can't say the same of the amarr or caldarians.
Too true 
I also have only Gallente BS, but as I now have lvl5 (yeah, yeah, laugh it up) I'll probably do the assault frig/cruiser thing now, like I should've in the first place.
Seriously though, EVERY reply is basically unanimous, Gall BS suck eggs... Can CCP really ignore this for 6 more months? Maybe when we get to 100 pages they'll take notice...
On a side note: most of the best Megathron setups ATM use Megapulse lasers, I find this almost laughable at this point in the game.
/me pets my semi-gimped Dominix, at least it's somewhat versatile (but it's cap still sux0rs).
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.01.31 22:43:00 -
[450]
Tier 3 BS's with somewhat different specializations would be VERY nice.
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