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Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2012.09.01 04:48:00 -
[181] - Quote
p.s. have you noticed we all look a bit like a meeting of various different biker gangs?
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2317
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Posted - 2012.09.01 22:33:00 -
[182] - Quote
Mars Theran wrote:p.s. have you noticed we all look a bit like a meeting of various different biker gangs?
I feel the need to dispute this observation.
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Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
266
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Posted - 2012.09.02 06:28:00 -
[183] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Mars Theran wrote:p.s. have you noticed we all look a bit like a meeting of various different biker gangs? I feel the need to dispute this observation.
I thought of that when I looked at your jacket too, then I realized there must be some biker gang somewhere wearing something like that. 
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.09.02 16:42:00 -
[184] - Quote
bump |
Lutaria Tichim
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.02 17:54:00 -
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Actually, I was noticing that not all the shoes are high heels. There is a sort of combat boot, and there are runners. Maybe not available to all variations of every faction, but they are there. Got the combats myself; little extra cushioning in the heel, but otherwise good. |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.09.03 00:26:00 -
[186] - Quote
Even the combat boots have huge heels on them |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1266
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Posted - 2012.09.03 00:55:00 -
[187] - Quote
Isabel Midnight wrote:Even the combat boots have huge heels on them
Not that huge. I think one of my sandals has a higher heel... |
Aethelric Brandt
The Inheritors
F.E.R.A.L
0
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Posted - 2012.09.03 02:21:00 -
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Totally on-board with the OP's suggestion. Gender requirements should be removed from clothing entirely. Barring that, however, female characters should have non-sexualized and/or practical options available.
This change would take virtually no effort and would solve a rather serious issue. Given that this game is produced in Iceland, one of (if not) the most gender-equitable nations on the planet, it's rather absurd to see female characters forced into heels. |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.09.03 18:57:00 -
[189] - Quote
bump |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2321
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Posted - 2012.09.03 19:43:00 -
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Aethelric Brandt wrote:This change would take virtually no effort
You're so very wrong about that.
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Jafit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
344
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Posted - 2012.09.03 20:14:00 -
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I'm outraged by the fact that the character customization screen won't let you finish without putting on a pair of pants. It's a joke and insanely unrealistic to have not even considered this massive oversight. I hate wearing pants in real life as they are uncomfortable and unnecessary and mostly only for pleasing dumb ass police officers with their stupid 'laws'. |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.09.06 13:18:00 -
[192] - Quote
bump |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
6
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:19:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:bump
Hey! How dare you bump into me!
You're a racist. You hate me and I know that because you bumped me. That makes you a racist and anything you say to the contrary just strengthens my assertion that you are, indeed racist.
On the subject of shoes, though, I think all women should be made to wear high heals at all times. With so many ugly women that dress like men out there we need something to allow us men to avoid the embarrasement of misidentifying women as men. If all women wore high heals and all men didn't (as in EvE) it would all be made much simpler. So really, CCP have merely solved a problem thats inherent in western society anyway.
+1 to CCP for their sensible approach to making it easy to identify the sexes. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
530
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:34:00 -
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Elshar Khandar wrote:Isabel Midnight wrote:bump Hey! How dare you bump into me! You're a racist. You hate me and I know that because you bumped me. That makes you a racist and anything you say to the contrary just strengthens my assertion that you are, indeed racist. On the subject of shoes, though, I think all women should be made to wear high heals at all times. With so many ugly women that dress like men out there we need something to allow us men to avoid the embarrasement of misidentifying women as men. If all women wore high heals and all men didn't (as in EvE) it would all be made much simpler. So really, CCP have merely solved a problem thats inherent in western society anyway. +1 to CCP for their sensible approach to making it easy to identify the sexes.
I can't say I noticed this aspect of EVE as you described it.
Good catch on noticing this. I am horrified to think I could be ogling a guy by mistake.
And here I was admiring her for her bumps till now... dear dear....
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
GeeShizzle MacCloud
206
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:40:00 -
[195] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:Isabel Midnight wrote:Even the combat boots have huge heels on them Not that huge. I think one of my sandals has a higher heel...
haha! owned Isabel Midnight! now politely f**k off |
Astroniomix
Thorn Project
Black Thorne Alliance
175
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:09:00 -
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Aethelric Brandt wrote:This change would take virtually no effort
How much is "virtualy no effort"? |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
127
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:11:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:
CCP art team needs to pull their head out their ass and introduce some non high heels for female characters to wear. I'm supposed to be a spaceship captain. I need actual practical shoes. Male character's get them..
Why do spaceship captains need practical shoes when they spend thier whole time on ship suspended naked in a pod of amniotic fluid? Clothes are only for socialising and displaying wealth. Sure it is stupid female pod pilots in eve must wear high heels but practicality in work as a pod pilot has little to do with it.
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Arduemont
Malevolent Intentions
Ineluctable.
264
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:09:00 -
[198] - Quote
I would like to point out that the female character model is made with the feet in the high-heel position. What your proposing would take a lot of work especially considering there are already female shoes in the character customization that someone has obviously put effort into making them look like they're not high heeled.
There may not be any non-high heeled shoes on the nexus, but if you don't like the options in there then don't buy anything. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
705
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:10:00 -
[199] - Quote
Bumping too, for no reason but well...
brb |
Paikis
Lycosa Syndicate
Surely You're Joking
150
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Posted - 2012.09.06 18:13:00 -
[200] - Quote
If this had been put forward as a simple request for more options I'd have no issue with it. But you had to make it a political statement, so here's a rubix cube... |
GTN
BALKAN EXPRESS
23
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Posted - 2012.09.06 18:18:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:I hate wearing high heels in real life as they are painful and extremely awkward to walk in and mostly only for pleasing dumb ass men.
I'd put it this way: high technology combined with highly engineered high heels made them fun to wear. |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.09.07 03:11:00 -
[202] - Quote
bump |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 06:08:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:bump
So you've nothing more to say on the subject other than "bump".
And still you have almost no support for your demands.
I bet you were the sort of person who as a child, when told she couldn't have something, screamed and screamed and screamed until daddy gave it to you. And from your obvious misandry I'd say your daddy did give it to you. |
L Salander
Bite Me inc
Elysian Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.09.07 11:02:00 -
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There's a lot of misogynists in this thread, oh my. |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
9
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Posted - 2012.09.07 11:41:00 -
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Misogyny is the hatred of women or girls. That means ALL women or girls. It DOES NOT mean hating one women or one girl because they're a biggoted hate monger demanding ridiculously pointless things (considering the lack of any avatar interaction) simply because she considers herself to be marginalised and therefore have more rights than anyone else.
I and most of the other supposed misogynists here don't hate women or girls. In fact, most of us actively love them as often as we possibly can.
It's a bit like an argument between a black guy and a white guy. If one of them loses his temper and hits the other is he a racist? Well, it entirely depends on whether he's attacked the other chap because of the colour of his skin (or nationality etc.) or because of something completely different. So, the black guy slept with the white guy's sister, took photos and posted them on the internet. The white guy hits the black guy. Is it racist or is it pretty much justified?
Isabel Midnight has shouted demands which either aren't backed up by anyone else (the few positives being alts) or are backed up by such a tiny portion of the forum goers that the validity of the demands should be and have been brought into question.
Isabel Midnight has accused most, if not all, of the people who've replied negatively to her proposal, whether agressively or not, with blanket "You're all misogynists" comments which are as valid as the black guy in my example claiming the white guy is a racist. Her arguments aren't agreed with by most of the people who read and post on this forum. She persists in trying to enforce her demands, not with calm rationality but with baseless accusations casting the natures and ethics of ALL her ctitics into question whilst claiming to be the injured party.
She is not the injured party. She brought a point which is not widely seen as important by the playerbase to the attention of the forum in the form of a demand and then accused any and all neighsayers of being misogynists and worse.
&TLDR Isabel Midnight is a bigot who likes accusing others of her own flaw. |
L Salander
Bite Me inc
Elysian Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.09.07 12:23:00 -
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Elshar Khandar wrote:Misogyny is the hatred of women or girls. That means ALL women or girls. It DOES NOT mean hating one women or one girl because they're a biggoted hate monger demanding ridiculously pointless things (considering the lack of any avatar interaction) simply because she considers herself to be marginalised and therefore have more rights than anyone else.
I and most of the other supposed misogynists here don't hate women or girls. In fact, most of us actively love them as often as we possibly can.
It's a bit like an argument between a black guy and a white guy. If one of them loses his temper and hits the other is he a racist? Well, it entirely depends on whether he's attacked the other chap because of the colour of his skin (or nationality etc.) or because of something completely different. So, the black guy slept with the white guy's sister, took photos and posted them on the internet. The white guy hits the black guy. Is it racist or is it pretty much justified?
Isabel Midnight has shouted demands which either aren't backed up by anyone else (the few positives being alts) or are backed up by such a tiny portion of the forum goers that the validity of the demands should be and have been brought into question.
Isabel Midnight has accused most, if not all, of the people who've replied negatively to her proposal, whether agressively or not, with blanket "You're all misogynists" comments which are as valid as the black guy in my example claiming the white guy is a racist. Her arguments aren't agreed with by most of the people who read and post on this forum. She persists in trying to enforce her demands, not with calm rationality but with baseless accusations casting the natures and ethics of ALL her ctitics into question whilst claiming to be the injured party.
She is not the injured party. She brought a point which is not widely seen as important by the playerbase to the attention of the forum in the form of a demand and then accused any and all neighsayers of being misogynists and worse.
&TLDR Isabel Midnight is a bigot who likes accusing others of her own flaw.
Except what they're "demanding" isn't ridiculous or pointless at all, the fact that you think forcing all female characters to dress a certain way is ok is very misogynistic. |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
9
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Posted - 2012.09.07 12:57:00 -
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L Salander wrote:
Except what they're "demanding" isn't ridiculous or pointless at all, forcing all female characters to dress a certain way is very misogynistic. The fact that the vast majority of players (aka men) are ok with it doesn't mean it's ok. Argumentum ad populum doesn't stand, mate.
Please acquaint yourself with the definition of misogyny.
IF there was any misogyny involved in women in the game having to wear high heals it would mean that CCP intentionally made it that way specifically because they hate women.
Anyone with half a brain can tell that simply isn't the case.
Therefore, the only logical assumption that can be made is that the reason women all wear high heals is because of a mix of pragmatic design decisions, cost/benefit analysis (technical and/or financial) and simplification of complicated interaction mechanics. There may be others but I think that covers the most obvious.
Argumentum ad populum does actually stand. Someone who believes themselves to be in the minority and/or marginalised doesn't get more than one vote to make up for it in any country, as far as I can tell.
People really need to get to grips with a bit of common sense. When and only when we have avatar interactions does this demand transition from pointless to having some (albeit very little) merit. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
531
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Posted - 2012.09.07 13:25:00 -
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Elshar's arguments possess the all too rare quality of logic.
Despite her thought provoking bumps, I fear Isabel's arguments are here beaten.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2332
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Posted - 2012.09.07 15:29:00 -
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L Salander wrote:forcing all female characters to dress a certain way is very misogynistic.
No, it's not. I've already made a post where I clearly state several other possible reasons for it, including market research among female players. It's entirely possible that the feedback they got from women favored high heels, and technical limitations only allowed for one type of shoe.
You accuse people of acting on hate while never considering they might have other motives.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2332
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Posted - 2012.09.07 15:31:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Isabel's arguments
So far, I don't think she's presented any. Just baseless accusations of hate, intermixed with some hypocritical hate of her own.
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