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Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:43:00 -
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@ Isabel Midnight
So you're ignoring the fact that every post you've made regarding misogyny is factually incorrect, then?
It's interesting to see you ranting about how marginalised you are whilst completely ignoring any explanations of why you're wrong.
One might make the assumption that you know you're wrong and you're merely trolling.
For the time being I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but you're not helping your cause by ignoring people who are trying to actually help your understanding regarding what you're trying to claim. |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:44:00 -
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Go back to /r/MRA |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
22
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:45:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:Go back to /r/MRA
Go back to what now?
EDIT - I've googled what you just said and there are way too many things that you clearly don't mean. Have you devolved to meaningless insults or did you actually have a real meaning to that instruction? |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
539
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:27:00 -
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I believe I have sorted this one.
This is a misogynistic man posting as a woman, and is attempting to demean and marginalize women by creating an example of deranged interests put forth by a woman.
By acting really foolish, they hope all women will seem to be more foolish as a result.
It is a rather clever spin on the dumb blonde stereotype, where women are associated with needy desires due to the blonde acting as a representative of their gender as a whole.
Well played. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2346
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:45:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:intent has nothing to do with whether it is misogynistic or not. I was walking along one day and there was this woman going the other way and I accidentally hated her for a second. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
24
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:49:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote: Interesting suggestion
You make an interesting point and I would concur. Things simply don't add up if one was to take her at face value.
So either:
a) She is actually a mentally deficient woman or b) She's a man trying to demean women
Considering he/she has shown the capacity for logical debate and continues to use the word misogyny incorrectly even though he/she has had it explained it seems unlikely that it really is a woman. So yes, your suggestion seems to fit the facts best.
Congrats for uncovering this now obvious misogynist. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2347
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:01:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:It's hilarious went dudes post about how 'oppressed' they are in these modern times.
How dare we point out when we're unfairly represented or mistreated! Blah blah misogyny blah blah privilege blah blah blah.
At first I thought you were a very clever troll. Then you kept going and I thought you were serious. Now you're down to not even attempting to have a conversation and simply posting one-line idiocy to keep people going and I'm back to thinking troll, only much less clever. You've gotten lazy. You might spice up future posts by talking about the chauvinistic patriarchy. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:06:00 -
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Mens are the REAL victims here! |
Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:08:00 -
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By all means write me off as a troll if it means you stop posting your drivel in here. I would love to see you try to explain to a room of people irl that men are the ones who are being oppressed by feminists calling them out on their misogyny.
Misogyny so ingrained that they don't even realize they are doing it and get super offended if you point it out.
HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A MEAN WORD !! |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
25
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:15:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:By all means write me off as a troll if it means you stop posting your drivel in here. I would love to see you try to explain to a room of people irl that men are the ones who are being oppressed by feminists calling them out on their misogyny. Misogyny so ingrained that they don't even realize they are doing it and get super offended if you point it out. HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A MEAN WORD !!
I reiterate; please acquaint yourself with an accurate definition of misogyny. You seem to believe something that simply isn't true.
Your arguments are falling down around your ears because you refuse to answer simple questions regarding them or, for that matter, anything else.
You've ignored my last few questions to you, presumably because you have no decent answers. Either enter the debate or accept that Nik got it right. |
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Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:19:00 -
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It's pretty obvious to anyone educated reading this that both are you are very ingrained misogynists. Crying about how it's not your interpretation of the definition won't get you anywhere. Misogyny is misogyny even if the person is too dumb to realize what they are doing. |
Sal Volatile
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:24:00 -
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Elshar Khandar wrote: I reiterate; please acquaint yourself with an accurate definition of misogyny. You seem to believe something that simply isn't true.
Your arguments are falling down around your ears because you refuse to answer simple questions regarding them or, for that matter, anything else.
You've ignored my last few questions to you, presumably because you have no decent answers. Either enter the debate or accept that Nik got it right.
The only people who accept your so-called accurate definition of misogyny are MRAs and other misogynists. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2348
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:26:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:By all means write me off as a troll if it means you stop posting your drivel in here. I would love to see you try to explain to a room of people irl that men are the ones who are being oppressed by feminists calling them out on their misogyny. Who said we're "the ones being oppressed"? Why can't both genders point out flaws in society?
No one is being oppressed. Our society sucks and places unrealistic expectations on everyone. There's no grand conspiracy of men trying to subjugate women...it's just stupidity in action by all parties involved.
Isabel Midnight wrote:Misogyny so ingrained that they don't even realize they are doing it and get super offended if you point it out. "You hate me and don't even know it."
Of course I'm going to get offended if you accuse me of acts of hatred. Wouldn't you? The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
25
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:28:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:It's pretty obvious to anyone educated reading this that both are you are very ingrained misogynists. Crying about how it's not your interpretation of the definition won't get you anywhere. Misogyny is misogyny even if the person is too dumb to realize what they are doing.
Ok, just for intellectual curiosity lets, hypothetically, say that you're definition is correct (which in reality it isn't).
By your own definition you're a misandrist and a racist. Whether your intention was to insult my gender or race you have because I say you have.
So, do you accept that you're a misandrist and a racist? |
Sal Volatile
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:28:00 -
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Xuixien wrote: 70-80% of the victims of violent crime are............ men. Most **** victims are.......... men. Most military casualties are.......... men. Most people killed on the job are........ men. The people working the tough and dangerous jobs are...... men. Perpetrators of domestic violence are equally likely to be male or female, yet domestic abusers are only portrayed as......... men. As much as 40% of child molesters are female, yet child molesters are only portrayed as......... men. "Primary Aggressor" laws mean that even if the perpetrator is female, the people arrested for domestic disputes are.............. men.
INB4 B-b-b-b-b-but CEO's.
I'm just going to put a giant citation needed on these MRA talking points.
Also, counterpoint: A woman posts about how she thinks that being forced to put heels on her character is sexist and promptly gets dogpiled and insulted by numerous male posters.
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Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
25
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:28:00 -
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Sal Volatile wrote:Elshar Khandar wrote: I reiterate; please acquaint yourself with an accurate definition of misogyny. You seem to believe something that simply isn't true.
Your arguments are falling down around your ears because you refuse to answer simple questions regarding them or, for that matter, anything else.
You've ignored my last few questions to you, presumably because you have no decent answers. Either enter the debate or accept that Nik got it right.
The only people who accept your so-called accurate definition of misogyny are MRAs and other misogynists.
Or just people who understand the English language.
EDIT - also, what the heck does MRA stand for?
If googled all I get is:
Motorcycle Racing Association
Magnetic Resonance Angiography
Mail Retrieval Agent
Mountain Rescue Association |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2348
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:30:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:It's pretty obvious to anyone educated reading this that both are you are very ingrained misogynists. Show me one example of my so-called misogyny.
Go ahead, I'll wait. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
25
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:30:00 -
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Sal Volatile wrote:Xuixien wrote: 70-80% of the victims of violent crime are............ men. Most **** victims are.......... men. Most military casualties are.......... men. Most people killed on the job are........ men. The people working the tough and dangerous jobs are...... men. Perpetrators of domestic violence are equally likely to be male or female, yet domestic abusers are only portrayed as......... men. As much as 40% of child molesters are female, yet child molesters are only portrayed as......... men. "Primary Aggressor" laws mean that even if the perpetrator is female, the people arrested for domestic disputes are.............. men.
INB4 B-b-b-b-b-but CEO's.
I'm just going to put a giant citation needed on these MRA talking points. Also, counterpoint: A woman posts about how she thinks that being forced to put heels on her character is sexist and promptly gets dogpiled and insulted by numerous male posters.
Where have I insulted any women? |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2349
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:43:00 -
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Sal Volatile wrote:A woman posts about how she thinks that being forced to put heels on her character is sexist and promptly gets dogpiled and insulted by numerous male posters.
The first page:
1: OP 2: "this is a troll, right?" 3: "Men should get high heels, too!" 4: OP: "Post 3 isn't relevant to the subject I've dictated." 5: OP: bump 6: Marginally amusing troll poem/song 7: "Not another useless thread" 8: OP: #7 obviously hates women 9: "CCP should put flats in the NEX" 10: "It's only a game." 11: "Is this really that important?" 12: "Nobody cares." 13: "I'd like to have shoes without heels." 14: "The vehement reaction against this is telling." (what vehement reaction? Vehement apathy?) 15: "Agree." 16: "I have seen the future, and it wears heels." 17: Strange post talking about trans players and then supporting the OP and then...asking the OP out? 18: "How is having a female character crossdressing?" 19: #17 replies to #18. 20: "Did you know that high heels may improve the tone of a woman's pelvic floor, thus affecting female incontinence?" (which I believe was pasted from some web site, obviously a joke on the part of the poster)
#7, 10, 11, and 12 all had the same initial reaction I did: is this really that important? This is shoes in a game about internet space ships. The reaction wasn't one of hatred or oppression, but a total lack of caring...which was promptly interpreted as hate.
There were four posts of direct support, four posts of the "meh" variety, and it's being suggested that this thread got "dogpiled" by woman-haters. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
540
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:45:00 -
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Sal Volatile wrote:Elshar Khandar wrote: I reiterate; please acquaint yourself with an accurate definition of misogyny. You seem to believe something that simply isn't true.
Your arguments are falling down around your ears because you refuse to answer simple questions regarding them or, for that matter, anything else.
You've ignored my last few questions to you, presumably because you have no decent answers. Either enter the debate or accept that Nik got it right.
The only people who accept your so-called accurate definition of misogyny are MRAs and other misogynists. Courtesy of dictionary dot com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/misogyny mi-+sog-+y-+nyGÇé GÇé[mi-soj-uh-nee, mahy-] noun hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women.[/url]
The difference that makes no difference IS no difference.
And please specify your usage of MRA, it seems to lack relevance to this issue without proper context. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
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Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
26
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:05:00 -
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MRA = Men's Rights Advocate
Is this right?
If so I can see a glaringly obvious flaw in your argument. MRA's appear to stand for equal rights. They don't have a misogynistic viewpoint. Equal rights is not a hateful standpoint.
If you think it is you're condemning a massive proportion of the female population of the world to be hatemongers as Women's Rights (equal rights for women) as a concept has been subscribed to by women for more than a century.
That is, unless you're a man-hater. In that case your viewpoint is skewed by hate so should be discarded as irrelevant. |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
139
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:15:00 -
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Sal Volatile wrote:Xuixien wrote: 70-80% of the victims of violent crime are............ men. Most **** victims are.......... men. Most military casualties are.......... men. Most people killed on the job are........ men. The people working the tough and dangerous jobs are...... men. Perpetrators of domestic violence are equally likely to be male or female, yet domestic abusers are only portrayed as......... men. As much as 40% of child molesters are female, yet child molesters are only portrayed as......... men. "Primary Aggressor" laws mean that even if the perpetrator is female, the people arrested for domestic disputes are.............. men.
INB4 B-b-b-b-b-but CEO's.
I'm just going to put a giant citation needed on these MRA talking points.
"Citation needed"? "MRA talking points"? Oh we're playing that game now. On the EVE-O forums no less. Okay I'll nibble - but just a little bit. I'm not going to handhold you through every stat, but I will post a few things for you to gander at. For further self-education, please refer to google. Since it's most likely that you will try to remain willfully ignorant to facts, I would rather you try to find those facts yourself and save me the time. Thanks!
Victims of Violent Crime -Homicides Alone: http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/gender.cfm -Crime Stats; See "Violent Crime Rates by Gender" http://www.4uth.gov.ua/usa/english/trade/whstats/crime.htm
Military Casualties -This is a no brainer and I can't really believe you're asking for a citation on it. Men make up a disproportionate number of military casualties relative to the ratio of men/women in the military.
Workplace Deaths -See: http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0004.pdf Further reading: http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshcfoi1.htm
Men Work Dangerous Jobs -This is another no brainer. You can look up for yourself the ratio of men/women in such fields as oil prospecting, military service, police, firefighter, garbage collection, construction, EMT, nuclear, water treatment, waste management, etc.
Now since this is a video game, and you are most likely reactionary, young, and uneducated, I don't see this discussion going further. Have a good one....
Sal Volatile wrote:Also, counterpoint: A woman posts about how she thinks that being forced to put heels on her character is sexist and promptly gets dogpiled and insulted by numerous male posters.
Your counterpoint is irrelevant. This is the EVE-O forums, and someone posted something stupid. The outcome is predictable, not because of misogyny, but because this is the EVE-O forums and someone posted something stupid. Rabble Rabble!! Rifterlings is currently recruiting frigate and cruiser pilots for LowSec/NullSec small gang PvP and FW. Newbies and veterans alike are welcome.
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Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
139
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:18:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sal Volatile wrote:A woman posts about how she thinks that being forced to put heels on her character is sexist and promptly gets dogpiled and insulted by numerous male posters.
The first page: 1: OP 2: "this is a troll, right?" 3: "Men should get high heels, too!" 4: OP: "Post 3 isn't relevant to the subject I've dictated." 5: OP: bump 6: Marginally amusing troll poem/song 7: "Not another useless thread" 8: OP: #7 obviously hates women 9: "CCP should put flats in the NEX" 10: "It's only a game." 11: "Is this really that important?" 12: "Nobody cares." 13: "I'd like to have shoes without heels." 14: "The vehement reaction against this is telling." (what vehement reaction? Vehement apathy?) 15: "Agree." 16: "I have seen the future, and it wears heels." 17: Strange post talking about trans players and then supporting the OP and then...asking the OP out? 18: "How is having a female character crossdressing?" 19: #17 replies to #18. 20: "Did you know that high heels may improve the tone of a woman's pelvic floor, thus affecting female incontinence?" (which I believe was pasted from some web site, obviously a joke on the part of the poster) #7, 10, 11, and 12 all had the same initial reaction I did: is this really that important? This is shoes in a game about internet space ships. The reaction wasn't one of hatred or oppression, but a total lack of caring...which was promptly interpreted as hate. There were four posts of direct support, four posts of the "meh" variety, and it's being suggested that this thread got "dogpiled" by woman-haters.
Well friend, women are clearly oppressed due to EVE Online's lack of footwear choices for female characters. And if you don't support the OP then you clearly must not care about the oppression of women, therefore, you're a misogynist.
Rabble Rabble!! Rifterlings is currently recruiting frigate and cruiser pilots for LowSec/NullSec small gang PvP and FW. Newbies and veterans alike are welcome.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2349
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:23:00 -
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Now that the OP has accused me directly of misogyny, I went through my own posts looking for it. This is what I found:
1) I have absolutely no problem with the OP's personal dislike for high heels, but dispute the notion of them being misogynistic. Women are not forced to wear them. In fact some women wear them because they like the appearance of heels.
High heels are bad for the wearer. Everyone should know this by now. But asserting that they're a tool of oppression used by men to make women more attractive is ignoring history, where it was previously suggested that high heels were used to make women look less graceful so they wouldn't be attractive...and then there's the fact that MEN WORE HIGH HEELS FOR CENTURIES. Today, heels are a consensual fashion choice for women. I'd love to see any sort of proof that women are forced to wear heels, or penalized for not doing so.
2) I think "-ism" words (racism, sexism, ageism, et cetera...misogyny falls into this group) as well as the term "privilege" are overused and only serve to dilute arguments. In this specific case, they seem to be tossed around any time the OP needs to dismiss a poster as not being entitled to an opinion. "You don't count because you're sexist." Conversations on such topics are far more productive of those words are left out entirely. A conversation about high heels on game avatars turned into a referendum on sexual politics because the OP and a couple of others continually accused all their detractors of acting on hate.
3) There would likely be a significant investment of effort on the part of CCP to change this, as illustrated by the "molded" feet of the stripped female model. It was apparently not designed in a way that it could tolerate multiple types of shoes. As I said before, "they have ships to make pretty." I don't agree that this needs to be a priority for the art team when all of the actual gameplay is in space. (something I meant to say but never got around to putting into a post: It *should* be on the list of things to change with future incarna iterations.)
4) The choice of high heels for Eve avatars is not necessarily misogynistic. I suggested that it might be the case that they did market research and got better response on avatars in heels, or that it was simply an artistic preference. Stating that it was done out of some deep-seated dislike of women is leaping to a rather far-fetched conclusion.
Some highlights of my posts:
Quote:You're complaining because the artwork isn't according to your taste. Correction: you're angry because because you don't like the artwork.
Quote:I could say "I really want my wife to quit her job and stay home with the kids." You might immediately assume I'm an oppressive pig who wants a barefoot pregnant wife making me sandwiches. The truth of the matter is, that was my wife's ambition, and it became my ambition out of love for her.
She quit her job last month and is happier than ever. God I'm such a pig.
Also, I'm way better at making sandwiches.
Quote:It's all a cosmetic arms race driven by women, NOT by domineering men. Although I must confess to enjoying the show. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
542
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:32:00 -
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I think a shop called "Floppies Sandwiches" would have excellent sales.
It would have a deliberately casual air to it, offer wifi and comfortable seating for people to relax and hang out.
Kinda like a coffee shop, but sandwich focused. I am sure coffee could be sold too. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2350
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:46:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:I think a shop called "Floppies Sandwiches" would have excellent sales.
It would have a deliberately casual air to it, offer wifi and comfortable seating for people to relax and hang out.
Kinda like a coffee shop, but sandwich focused. I am sure coffee could be sold too.
It's been suggested in the past that I open up a burger place. I could get behind the sandwich shop thing though.
If only I could run a restaurant and still be lazy. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
27
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:59:00 -
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Perhaps running a bordello might be better if you want to be lazy.
"Floppie's Bordello" has an interesting ring to it |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
543
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:06:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:I think a shop called "Floppies Sandwiches" would have excellent sales.
It would have a deliberately casual air to it, offer wifi and comfortable seating for people to relax and hang out.
Kinda like a coffee shop, but sandwich focused. I am sure coffee could be sold too. It's been suggested in the past that I open up a burger place. I could get behind the sandwich shop thing though. If only I could run a restaurant and still be lazy. You only need to train the staff how to make the food, not do it yourself.
Creativity is a quality not necessary for repetition and suchlike.
It is entirely reasonable that you could act the part of the floor host, and ensure the comfort and well being of the guests by mingling with them and being social. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Paikis
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
158
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:37:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:Misogyny so ingrained that they don't even realize they are doing it and get super offended if you point it out. HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A MEAN WORD !!
I'm a misogynist. Me me me. I intensely dislike you as an individual, and I distrust the wimminz as a group. That qualifies me as a misogynist. Can I get a badge or something? Maybe a shirt with "this is what a misogynist looks like" written on it.
Please note that even claiming misogyny has nothing to do with hate. I don't hate the wimminz as a group, and although I don't like you, you simply aren't worth the effort of hating. The wimminz are a constant source of disappointment, and my complete lack of respect is based on things that no individual can change. Until society starts treating the wimminz as adults, instead of children that must be protected from everything, including their own foolish actions, then I say no woman is worthy of respect. That's a bit sad for the women who would otherwise be worthy of that respect, but when the excrement matches coordinates with the circular atmosphere agitator, a man is accountable for himself, a woman is not.
Also, 3/10 for trolling. You got lazy. |
Elshar Khandar
The Jolly Slavers
27
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Posted - 2012.09.10 17:11:00 -
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Elshar Khandar wrote:Isabel Midnight wrote:It's pretty obvious to anyone educated reading this that both are you are very ingrained misogynists. Crying about how it's not your interpretation of the definition won't get you anywhere. Misogyny is misogyny even if the person is too dumb to realize what they are doing. Ok, just for intellectual curiosity lets, hypothetically, say that your definition is correct (which in reality it isn't). By your own definition you're a misandrist and a racist. Whether your intention was to insult my gender or race you have because I say you have. So, do you accept that you're a misandrist and a racist?
I don't like quoting myself but you must have missed this, Isabel. Would you care to answer it or does it paint you in a terrible light with no logical out for you because of your flawed arguments? |
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