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Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:09:00 -
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Tchulen wrote: Lol. And you're a programmer are you?
It appears someone does care and that is who I was responding to maybe? |

Astroniomix
Thorn Project Black Thorne Alliance
155
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:51:00 -
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I'm just going to throw this out there: If I was the person responsible for THIS I would be embarrassed. I'm not kidding. It's just stupid. |

Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Omega Industries
255
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Posted - 2012.08.21 18:54:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:Being anorexic is far more serious than being mildly overweight, especially in the short term.. Who said anything about anorexia? Just because a person's thin it doesn't necessarily mean they're anorexic.
Isabel Midnight wrote:For the record yes I am a programmer , python too even , I would link you my git-hub portfolio but I don't want Google to associate it with this cesspool of nerds. If that's true I apologise and retract my sarcastic comment.
Isabel Midnight wrote:Oh for Tchulen , once you've been stood on so many times you tend to get angry when people keep doing it and claiming innocence. You should try it but coming from your position of intense privilege doubt that you could even conceive of the problems for those without it in modern society. Having thick skin generally doesn't come from living a privileged lifestyle. When you get stood on so many times you have two choices. 1) to become bitter and always assume people are trying to attack you or 2) toughen up and see things in a positive light until proven wrong. I chose the latter. It's not the easier of the two. I am genuinely sorry if your life experiences have led you to the former.
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Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
68
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:10:00 -
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CCP karkur links to two videos explaining the reason that everyone's the same height here.
Put your programmer hat on, and enjoy. |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.21 21:08:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:Isabel Midnight wrote:Being anorexic is far more serious than being mildly overweight, especially in the short term.. Who said anything about anorexia? Just because a person's thin it doesn't necessarily mean they're anorexic. Isabel Midnight wrote:For the record yes I am a programmer , python too even , I would link you my git-hub portfolio but I don't want Google to associate it with this cesspool of nerds. If that's true I apologise and retract my sarcastic comment. Isabel Midnight wrote:Oh for Tchulen , once you've been stood on so many times you tend to get angry when people keep doing it and claiming innocence. You should try it but coming from your position of intense privilege doubt that you could even conceive of the problems for those without it in modern society. Having thick skin generally doesn't come from living a privileged lifestyle. When you get stood on so many times you have two choices. 1) to become bitter and always assume people are trying to attack you or 2) toughen up and see things in a positive light until proven wrong. I chose the latter. It's not the easier of the two. I am genuinely sorry if your life experiences have led you to the former.
3) do something about it
Also if CCP really don't want to have different heights, make women taller. |

Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.08.21 23:39:00 -
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First the goons want to ban high heels, next they want all female characters to wear burkas. You're either a feminazi or a terrorist bunch now I suppose. Next thing we know, the Mittani's avatar will have a 3 foot long beard.
1. Dear op, it's an online video game. Please grow a pair. 2. You shouldn't feel any pain for what your character is wearing. 3. You don't have to walk in stations now so you don't have to see them. This is why I hate RPers. 4. I want cat-ears! Why should I be forced not to have cat ears? Why FF7 not being remade right now is good |

Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Omega Industries
257
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Posted - 2012.08.22 05:56:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote: 3) do something about it
Also if CCP really don't want to have different heights, make women taller.
What do you do about it? Angrily lash out to protect your ill-perceived "rights"? Yeah, that fits into my 1) so you do prescribe to my former option.
I disagree. Making the women taller would be an insult to short women. At the moment it's at roughly an average height. Some people would find it just as insulting if women were made taller as you appear to find having to wear heals.
Pretty much any change you can think of I can think of a reason why it would insult me or someone else I know who plays.
Screaming about how insulted you are by something as meaningless as shoe type in an online computer game which currently has no avatar interaction merely makes you look like a whiny daddy's girl who's used to stamping her feet and getting her own way, not someone who's been trodden on as you claim.
If there was any avatar interaction and you posed it as a well thought out, calm proposal I would have got behind you 100% but you didn't. You posted a pissed off rant demanding that CCP change something because it offends you. Well, you offend me so I DEMAND that you change until you don't.
That's me done with this tripe.
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Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
51
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Posted - 2012.08.22 06:37:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote: The ability for male characters to not wear certain items is unfortunate but is not close to the same as FORCING women to wear high heels. At best high heels are uncomfortable at worst they can be extremely painful.
Dictating that women have to wear highly sexualized clothing that they would be uncomfortable wearing is simply not OK.
The high-heel habit can cause fibers in the calf muscle to shorten, and the Achilles tendon, which connects the calf muscle to the bone, to stiffen and become thicker. This will reduce your ability to run servely and this sound not like the typical capsulers to me, who are a bunch of paranoid assholes that care about efficiency. High Heels only is simply not fitting to the lore. |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 12:25:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:If there was any avatar interaction and you posed it as a well thought out, calm proposal I would have got behind you 100% but you didn't. You posted a pissed off rant demanding that CCP change something because it offends you. Well, you offend me so I DEMAND that you change until you don't.
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html#notlistening |

Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Omega Industries
259
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Posted - 2012.08.22 12:32:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:Tchulen wrote:If there was any avatar interaction and you posed it as a well thought out, calm proposal I would have got behind you 100% but you didn't. You posted a pissed off rant demanding that CCP change something because it offends you. Well, you offend me so I DEMAND that you change until you don't.
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html#notlistening
Sorry, you're saying that you're a Marginalised Person? I guess this time I agree with you. |

GeeShizzle MacCloud
189
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Posted - 2012.08.22 12:35:00 -
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4 pages... srsly?
fml |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:28:00 -
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It's not actually a guide , it's designed as a tounge in cheek piece on how people like you and the above love to hurt marginalized people. FYI women are marginalized. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
393
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:33:00 -
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jeez stop this fuggin thread about bullsh*t already. cmon. highheels for female avatars? SO FUC*ING WHAT? WHO CARES? |

Tomytronic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
221
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:37:00 -
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Linna Excel wrote:First the goons want to ban high heels, next they want all female characters to wear burkas. Please don't associate the OP with all Goons. Most Goons have never even seen a female in real life and so would have no idea how they dress anyway. The OP does not speak for anyone but herself. I cannot stress this enough. |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:42:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:jeez stop this fuggin thread about bullsh*t already. cmon. highheels for female avatars? SO FUC*ING WHAT? WHO CARES?
typical male attitude, doesn't affect me so i don't care! |

GeeShizzle MacCloud
190
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Posted - 2012.08.22 16:59:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:It's not actually a guide , it's designed as a tounge in cheek piece on how people like you and the above love to hurt marginalized people. FYI women are marginalized.
ooo wow showing your true colours now arnt we!
and just for reference, i do like to marginalise people like you by saying the following...
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:i think isabels annoyance comes from the fact she uses Captains Quarters often rather than the hangar bay view that most players do. And i cant exacly say thats a bad thing.
--> The concept of incarna was to allow players to be able to personally identify with their characters. And i am lead to believe that women need that personal touch to better connect with their avatars.
on the one hand yes there is a case that someone is taking things too far with the need for 'flats', when you consider most if not all male players play eve with captains quarters off, and with those off and the portraits being at most from the waist up, the idea complaining about a very restrictive shoe selection does seem absurd.
on the other however...
--> chances are most women who do play eve probably play with captains quarters on. so they do see their avatar constantly, and most likely with that constant "high heel" stance.
does it really take soo much effort for a member of the art department to make a small pair of flats?
its fine having an issue with something in the game and wanting to draw attention to it bt seriously, if ur gonna shoot down people who actually say they support you then u can count me the **** out.
-1 |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
498
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:00:00 -
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Linna Excel wrote:First the goons want to ban high heels, next they want all female characters to wear burkas. You're either a feminazi or a terrorist bunch now I suppose. Next thing we know, the Mittani's avatar will have a 3 foot long beard.
1. Dear op, it's an online video game. Please grow a pair. 2. You shouldn't feel any pain for what your character is wearing. 3. You don't have to walk in stations now so you don't have to see them. This is why I hate RPers. 4. I want cat-ears! Why should I be forced not to have cat ears? And I want you to have cat ears too....
Did you know that cats are great pets, and owning a pet can help extend your life? http://animals.howstuffworks.com/pets/live-longer-with-a-pet.htm
Now imagine you are married to a cat-woman, or that you even are a cat woman! Your stress levels will drop off, and life will be a lot better! Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |

GeeShizzle MacCloud
190
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:09:00 -
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omg my gf would love the life of a cat-woman! she's always soo stressed and im always the one de-stressing her! |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1244
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Posted - 2012.08.22 18:34:00 -
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Roime wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Roime wrote:Did you know that high heels may improve the tone of a woman's pelvic floor, thus affecting female incontinence?
Did you know bullets to the brain may improve a man's ED? See I can make random statements without proof too. I know you can, but I don't. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7225828.stmhttp://www.medicina.univr.it/fol/main?ent=persona&id=3132As what comes to the topic, I agree with the OP, no matter how bonkers she appears, and no matter how acutely irrelevant a detail like this is in the context of the current non-existent avatar gameplay. Thank you for the proof.
Nice read too. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
393
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Posted - 2012.08.22 18:47:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:jeez stop this fuggin thread about bullsh*t already. cmon. highheels for female avatars? SO FUC*ING WHAT? WHO CARES? typical male attitude, doesn't affect me so i don't care!
I think you confused eve with second life. This game is about spaceships, noone gives something about your shoes. |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
336
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:06:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:Vaal Hadren wrote:There are NO high heel options for men!
This is an outrage, STOP forcing men to wear shoes without heels.
And tinsel. There is NO tinsel or pearl necklace option for men OR women in the NEX.
CCP DISCRIMINATE AGAINST LADYBOYS!
This matriachic insanity must NOT continue. Why do only women get pony tails and breasts?!
There's an 'ism' here just waiting to be thrown around.
Give me panties not briefs!
GAH! The ability for male characters to not wear certain items is unfortunate but is not close to the same as FORCING women to wear high heels. At best high heels are uncomfortable at worst they can be extremely painful. Dictating that women have to wear highly sexualized clothing that they would be uncomfortable wearing is simply not OK.
What?! Are your virtual shoes hurting your virtual feet? If I log in and start seeing men weatring heals, bras, and panties I'm leaving the game. Here's a clue for you, bras are uncomfortable too - that doesn't mean I want them removed from the game or worse.. added to the male wardrobe.. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:27:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:
What?! Are your virtual shoes hurting your virtual feet? If I log in and start seeing men weatring heals, bras, and panties I'm leaving the game. Here's a clue for you, bras are uncomfortable too - that doesn't mean I want them removed from the game or worse.. added to the male wardrobe..
again with the transphobia... |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
498
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:42:00 -
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I am simply amazed at the level of assumptions that is simply whizzing by here.
We are gracefully accepting as commonplace that we are immortal pilots among the stars themselves, controlling spacecraft able to be countered only by others like us.
Why would anyone think high heels were uncomfortable...?
Perhaps they DO resemble the shoes worn by the primitives of ancient Earth. I am sure many things have an appearance that suggests inspiration from before the dawn of our history in New Eden.
FACT: High heels are perfectly comfortable, as are all footwear worn by pilots for our publicity images. If you want discomfort, wake up in a med-clone on the wrong side of the galaxy from your assets.
And as for being sexist, we do not live in those caves either. Preposterous idea.
Those shoes represent the dominance of women over sexuality itself, boasting to all others that they have both the genetic enhancements as well as the divine evolution to spin men's minds in helpless circles.
Just by wearing shoes.
Fine. By all means, please do exorcise your right to diminish yourself in the eyes of your peers, and would be admirers... Take them off. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:01:00 -
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I don't want anything to impress gross videogaming dudes ty |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
498
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:12:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:I don't want anything to impress gross videogaming dudes ty You are a female capsuleer. If you did not want to impress men, the mistake was in being born a goddess over them.
All of us, men and women, represent the apex of perfection possible in humanity.
We are the gods raining down the fires from the skies above. We are the immortal icons for mortal dreams of power and glory.
It is not our place to care what lesser beings think of us. That is their burden to bear.
Do not demean yourself by stepping down from the altar they place you on. It is our birthright to be worshiped and envied for who we are. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:25:00 -
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A goddess who can only wear specific shoe types. Yup. |

Janet Patton
Brony Express
47
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:38:00 -
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I personally like my height enhancers.
If you want to stay a midget stick with your pair of free sketchers. Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
498
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:42:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:A goddess who can only wear specific shoe types. Yup. Do you also complain about the perfection of your feet? After all, you have only two.
What about your legs, curved and evolved to drive all men mad, surely they are a source of countless fantasies with these dude people you spoke of.
When it comes right down to it, your entire form is one divine weapon to confuse and overwhelm the minds of mortal men.
How can you so easily despair over our place in things. We have a role to play in this universe, clearly defined.
When mortals see a stop sign, they stop. When said mortals see a sign to proceed, they go.
And when the mortal men see your divine form, they dream. This 'Dude' tribe is surely no exception.
They follow the edicts fate set for them. Your thoughts are above such petty concerns by birthright.
Let them then dream, and offer you proper worship as is their place for existing as lesser beings. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |

Isabel Midnight
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:09:00 -
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womens divine purpose : be sexually arousing for men
cool bro |

Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
142
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:30:00 -
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Isabel Midnight wrote:womens divine purpose : be sexually arousing for men
cool bro
Well, nature intended this to be.... you know... procreation reasons.... like when birds have beautiful colors to attract the other gender... this is how things works... Stop complaining..... get used to it...
Also heels shouldn't be uncomfortable inside the pod and in the low gravity... also your avatar is probably not that heavy since CCP didn't planned for obese ones... and it will not have healthy problems because of heels and if it have just get poded and you have a new body....
So can we please let this topic die? we just need to stop posting here... and this will go bottom to the emptiness... lol |
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