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Tea Ester Elliot
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:05:00 -
[1921]
I detect smug from the OP.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:06:00 -
[1922]
Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot
White knights, please elaborate. Have we been playing this game for free since 2003 and I never knew it?
Otherwise your argument holds no water.
There was no argument, just a step back from the whole outrage that CCP is trying to make money. Companies do that. Companies that don't do that fail and go under.
I make no judgement on the soundness of their decisions - I don't think MT are evil, nor do I think there is anything "Micro" about CCP's aurum.
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Niobic
Minmatar Infinite Monkey Cage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:06:00 -
[1923]
Greed is good?
k i'll keep my 2 x ú15 a month
kthnxcyabye
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Strazdas Unstoppable
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:06:00 -
[1924]
Originally by: Digital Messiah This is fake, CCP knows as well as we do money for non vanity items has killed every game that has ever tried it. No amount of creeping it in has worked either.
3 words for you: team fortress 2
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente Shiloh Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:06:00 -
[1925]
Msg to CCP: Greed is not good, Greed is ******ed.
Personally I only buy micro transactions in LOTRO because I have a lifetime sub and sometimes I buy crap with my thousands of credits. I rare ever play the game since it went free to play.
I also play NO FTP games, as the community is usually full of kids, tossers and ******s.
I also know a lot of the people whowere thinking about playing WoD are now very concerned, so not old are CCP ****ign up EVE with this they are ****ing up their up coming games too.
I usually get ****ed off with all the rage quitters over nothing such as bugs, walking in closets or whatever stuff they add because it doesn't change the main game...THIS will and probably already has.
Thanks CCP for ****ing up big time and please can we have some heads rolling and some decent people making this game not some ****** who buys dresses for some ****ty game other than EVE. Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Kali Doom
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kali Doom on 23/06/2011 20:07:17 So, who is Bartholomeus Crane???
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:08:00 -
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You know what people? Bottom line is this...I know many of you still hoped this would work out and that ccp would come and fix this. Truth is they wont. I also know many are thinking.."oh ****,no more eve what do I do?". It's a game. A game in which we have developed a close relationship with it's devs. And now we feel back stabbed. Forget hurting ccp which many of you would love to do. They don't care nor should you. Forget eve and break the addiction..or deal with where the game is headed. If you're really ****ed..biomass the char and then there is no way back.
I know my quitting wont hurt them..but I'll be damned if I let then have another cent of my money. I will not support them any longer. They will doom themselves sooner or later with the way they treat their players.
Choose one of the two options. Deal with it or biomass if you can't quit. It has been fun playing/trolling with you guys and I hope to see some of you in swtor when it comes out.
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Gurgeh Murat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:08:00 -
[1928]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Gurgeh Murat
I can happily flit from World of Tanks to Champions online. FREE TO PLAY GAMES.
Bold the bit CCP will hear. "Oh cool he agrees, F2P ftw"
Absolutely correct good sir. EvE is turning into P2P MT game.
Pay to play, or Micro transactions. Choose one.
CCP want to have their cake and eat it.
It will choke them.
Good day to you sir.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:08:00 -
[1929]
Eve24 is the biggest pile of **** this side of the milkyway .. they (he/she/it) literally makes FoxNews tagline kosher by comparison.
Yes, vanity items can be bought .. big whoop/whaaa. As long as they are kept to their promise of keeping actual gameplay items out then who gives a ****?
Dust is a completely unrelated game with about as much in common with Eve as an asphalt factory has with a car manufacturer (ie. they function together but that is as far as it goes). WoD is still vaporware as far as I am concerned. We have heard diddly about it and there is no reason to think that it will ever launch as anything but a flashgame on FailBook.
In short: Piece of **** nonsensical whinage.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:10:00 -
[1930]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 20:11:27
Originally by: Kali Doom So, who is Bartholomeus Crane???
Guy with Russian mafia looking for his door?
edit: What are they called even? Still fly under KGB flags and stuff?
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. |
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Eve24 is the biggest pile of **** this side of the milkyway .. they (he/she/it) literally makes FoxNews tagline kosher by comparison.
Yes, vanity items can be bought .. big whoop/whaaa. As long as they are kept to their promise of keeping actual gameplay items out then who gives a ****?
Dust is a completely unrelated game with about as much in common with Eve as an asphalt factory has with a car manufacturer (ie. they function together but that is as far as it goes). WoD is still vaporware as far as I am concerned. We have heard diddly about it and there is no reason to think that it will ever launch as anything but a flashgame on FailBook.
In short: Piece of **** nonsensical whinage.
lol go read through this thread and then come back and say that i cba to link you the stuff go find it yourself
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:10:00 -
[1932]
Originally by: Kali Doom Edited by: Kali Doom on 23/06/2011 20:07:17 So, who is Bartholomeus Crane???
A bittervet who claimed to be an AI expert, who still spergs walls of text hating on CCP [months/years] after he quit Eve.
Unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:11:00 -
[1933]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Eve24 is the biggest pile of **** this side of the milkyway .. they (he/she/it) literally makes FoxNews tagline kosher by comparison.
Yes, vanity items can be bought .. big whoop/whaaa. As long as they are kept to their promise of keeping actual gameplay items out then who gives a ****?
Dust is a completely unrelated game with about as much in common with Eve as an asphalt factory has with a car manufacturer (ie. they function together but that is as far as it goes). WoD is still vaporware as far as I am concerned. We have heard diddly about it and there is no reason to think that it will ever launch as anything but a flashgame on FailBook.
In short: Piece of **** nonsensical whinage.
Filed under "we told you so" for later use against you.
Thanks.
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Erichan
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kali Doom Edited by: Kali Doom on 23/06/2011 20:07:17 So, who is Bartholomeus Crane???
Yeah, who is this guy? Right after he posts, Failheap goes offline. Odd.
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:11:00 -
[1935]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Eve24 is the biggest pile of **** this side of the milkyway .. they (he/she/it) literally makes FoxNews tagline kosher by comparison.
Yes, vanity items can be bought .. big whoop/whaaa. As long as they are kept to their promise of keeping actual gameplay items out then who gives a ****?
Dust is a completely unrelated game with about as much in common with Eve as an asphalt factory has with a car manufacturer (ie. they function together but that is as far as it goes). WoD is still vaporware as far as I am concerned. We have heard diddly about it and there is no reason to think that it will ever launch as anything but a flashgame on FailBook.
In short: Piece of **** nonsensical whinage.
So you're discounting something an obviously disgruntled CCP employee leaked to multiple sources because Eve News 24 broke the news first? REALLY?
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Magmemnon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:12:00 -
[1936]
Found over at BC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:12:00 -
[1937]
Question - is the monocle now a new unit of currency?
"Id like to buy that titan from you good sir"
"That will be 15 monocles please"
"There you go, pleasure doing business with you."
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:12:00 -
[1938]
I have held off posting for a while since it looked initially like this could well be a prank...
Now it doesn't...
My response to the gist of the document is this:
A) you hold a position and stand by it, arguing in its defence with reasoned argument... If those arguments stand up, you get to keep that position... If the arguments don't stand up... you modify your position to take into account the counter arguments that defeated you... If you don't admit defeat to better arguments you are guilty of rigid dogmatism, and that leads to bad places...
What you don't do is hold a position, you don't think you can justify to others, and simply keep quiet about it and implement its consequences without telling anyone... This is being what is known as a conniving, cowardly, yellow bellied chicken...
If CCP really believe that MT is the way forward, then they should say so, and why... Then those of us that still disagree can know where we stand... And quit if necessary.
lying about MT because you don't think we will like it is utter cowardice.
B) I think introducing MT for vanity items is really bad, and totally oppose it (long argument not for right now in this heated atmosphere). Introducing MT for non-vanity items is unforgivable and I will quit if you ever do this.
C) As far as I was concerned the NEX appeared on SiSi out of thin air, with the follow-up dev blog announcing a fait acompli that from now on clothing (and other items) would only be available for MT, and even the selection we had (which is not very good) would be reduced to the clothes on our backs...
I read the forums quite a bit, and read all the dev blogs, and this came as a total shock to me...
I basically found out that immersion was going to cost extra on the test server.
This ****ed me off a lot.
I pay a subscription for EVE... this gives (or should give) full access to the player economy, and with nothing other than my subscription and time, I can build, win, or buy with isk I make, anything in game (barring things like tourney prises) without paying another dime...
In fact one of EVE's greatest strengths and one of the things that keeps me in it is the player driven economy...
MT, even for vanity items destroys this...
and destroys the player economy's immersive value as well.
If you had posted a dev blog, 6 months ago, saying we are looking in to doing this, this, and this, what are your thoughts, would you accept this.... and we had had the ability to discuss the issue before a single line of code had been written...
we could have had a civilised discussion on it...
However you have tried to ram this down our throats with little to no warning, despite huge response to the one thread I was aware of in the assembly hall where almost everyone voted against MT...
Because of this we can't have a civilised debate on the subject...
Either MT goes... or I do... take your pick either way...
From a PR perspective... You really need to get some kind of initial response, or at least explanation out NOW... it has already taken you to long to respond.
And no, you can't have my stuff. --------
By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig.
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Tea Ester Elliot
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:12:00 -
[1939]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida In short: Piece of **** nonsensical post.
So you missed the links in this thread and decided to stop in and white knight?
Good for you, now get busy reading the truth.
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Cunane Jeran
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:13:00 -
[1940]
If this turns out to not be a work of fiction, its a deal breaker. I wouldn't touch this game again and I'd also make sure other people I know don't make the mistake of starting it up tbh.
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Pat Morrison
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:13:00 -
[1941]
Originally by: Tammarr Edited by: Tammarr on 23/06/2011 19:06:05 Ohmy, I see the butthurt forum warrior and alts brigade are still upset about a buddy of theirs getting a kickban in the crackers. As well as poor poor plex speculants with 20b tied up in plexes not getting the sudden sell in plex at high isk value they hoped for. Still being little emo girls '...nah still dont feel like loging in' working on the destruction of ccps rep with all their e-might because things didnt go as they want. HTFU.
Ein Spiegel's not a CCP alt. However, this might be.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:15:00 -
[1942]
My only regret is not getting out into nullsec sooner. It's a blast.
I haven't clicked unsub yet, but if CCP doesn't get their **** together, and quick, I'll be out the door, down the hall, and gone. --Vel
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
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Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:16:00 -
[1943]
That's a very decent piece of forum banter right there. Spread the word.
http://i.imgur.com/5xJhp.png
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tr33hugger
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:16:00 -
[1944]
CCP Why U No Listen? I am disappoint. tr33hugger |
Ragnar Wintermute
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:16:00 -
[1945]
Well, I never post on the forums but just wanted to contribute my - 1 subscriptions purely on the basis of how offended I am by that newsletter and it's cavalier tone. Not to mention, I had a good 10 or so friends who probably would of came back to check it out.
I didn't care much for Incarna but I thought it was a great idea if implemented correctly. I'm all for expanding the game and attracting new players but until I hear some good things in the next couple of months, I don't plan on coming back. (Actually very early in development for my own space game at the moment. :P)
I already honestly don't enjoy the game because of how tedious it can be when playing alone. (My last corp kicked me out for being inactive during finals week and good luck staying in any corp as a not so active player) But the sole reason why I still played was due to it's economic system and genius sandbox nature. However, the new direction of pushing micro-transactions disrupts the entire foundation of the game and their ability to further expand upon that foundation to offer new gameplay. (This is especially important for tired players, after all Eve is top heavy and the veterans are what keeps food on this company's plate. Not to mention the effects that a fail cascade of Eve can cause to Dust)
In short, this should of been an in-game economic expansion for Eve and not CCP and the problem lies in the fact that the higher ups realized that the in-game industrialist are an economic threat to their own virtual goods.
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Marcus Vorenius
Instant Annihilation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:16:00 -
[1946]
I simply don't understand why senior management thought it would be a good idea to circulate a newsletter with sensitive content like this. If the motivation was to align employees to the new business plan and show that they are a progressive company with transparent processes, then this is a p!ss-poor way of implementing it.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:17:00 -
[1947]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
This made my day :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:17:00 -
[1948]
Thread is 24 hours old... pretty sure this is a new record of some sort... -------
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:18:00 -
[1949]
I think this thread deserves its own node on the cluster no?
Somebody petition for a large fleet fight, 300k vs 1?
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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tachibana Kanade He mentioned a NEWSLETTER
so it is true.
Unsub by monday if you don't adress this properly.
Reading comprehension 101:
The subject of that thread is keep it on-topic, and not discuss this newsletter thread in the dev blog thread.
Funny how people love to jump on the mere mention of "newsletter" and say, AH HAAA! It is real because they said, "newsletter"!
I really don't care either way. I play EQ II and the Marketplace doesn't affect my gameplay.
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