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Token Afrodude
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:15:00 -
[7501]
closing in on 700k views and 7500 responses for one simple question...
WILL THERE BE NON VANITY ITEMS FOR AUR???????
A reputation for a thousand years may depend upon the conduct of a single moment. -Ernest Bramah
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Jommis
Honningbarna
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:16:00 -
[7502]
 Originally by: Pappi
I use to run EVE from an old labtop - that is not possiable anymore 
Same problem here.
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Swifty Blowback
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:18:00 -
[7503]
The leaked newsletter posed the following:
"Greed is Good?"
The community has answered with an almost unanimous
"NO"
The community are now asking CCP if they have heard them. Whilst not unanimous, CCP have currently answered
"NO"
Makes me sad.
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Patches Donnarblizen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:18:00 -
[7504]
Originally by: Umorrian
Originally by: Gilbert Intaki
Originally by: Token Afrodude
Originally by: Horn Silver
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?:
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
[ ] MAYBE
[ ] AFRAID TO TELL
[ ] SCARED ****TLESS
[ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
lol, +1 internets.
But seriously CCP, answer the ****in question.
NOW!
CCP, you are not really smart. I just started playing eve for some month. I was facinated and taken by the game because it was different to other MMO.
You could have had me for the next 10 Years. That would have been 1000 ! Euros.
But you messed it up, by greedeness. So i canceled my sub and see what you will tell us. And I dont want this pr blablabla anymore.
So my 1000 Euros are gone. How do you try to get them back....if you even care!
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Triple Entendre
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:18:00 -
[7505]
Edited by: Triple Entendre on 25/06/2011 09:18:08
=( Still no answers?
Says more than those answers ever could.
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amarri victari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:18:00 -
[7506]
had previosuly cancelled 2 accounts, coudl see this comign a mile away.
cancelled my spy account and unsubbing this one right after i poast this.
i am a customer, it is my choice, i chose something else. something where customer service has a higher priority, somethign that does not treat me like a gullible, cash machine.
4 more accounts paid in cash for many many many years have gone.
whether it matters to ccp or not i no longer care. its over for me and for many others. good luck to all the new subscribers that come after us - we wish you well.
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kitic mile
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:18:00 -
[7507]
Originally by: Token Afrodude
Originally by: Glafri
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?:
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
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Eva Roy
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:20:00 -
[7508]
Originally by: Theodoros
Edited by: Theodoros on 25/06/2011 08:20:10
I find CCP Zulu latest blog is an attack on my intelligence.
Is insulting and aggrevating to say the least.
CCP your best creation is on fire fuelled by your greed.
this exactly.
what a pathethic blog response, adressing close to non of the real topics from this thread.
Seriously CCP, do something its sad.
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DiaLogical
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:21:00 -
[7509]
If this email is real..
It was already obvious from the internal newsletter that their focus was more than ever directed towards creative (future) use of MTs. But this email completely disregards the worries many people voiced.
How can they be so blind as to not see that this is not a "resist change" reaction, but something more fundamental. It's about resetting the boundaries in the (future and current) Eve gameplay when it comes to gain-for-pay.
I thought this outspoken community response would at least get through that we're not going in the right direction here. Not only were all issues untill now blatantly ignored, the fact he states that it's not about "what we say but do" is almost like a provocation. CCP Hilmar, do you really want a critical mass of players to quit before you reconsider this self-destructive path Eve is on?
Most players don't just rebel to act out, this reaction is fueled by a seemingly total lack of respect and complete ignorance as to the issues we ask/want/need you to address!
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Kane Valkeri
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:21:00 -
[7510]
Originally by: Jommis
Originally by: Pappi
I use to run EVE from an old labtop - that is not possiable anymore
Same problem here.
Yep i have that prob. FPS averages at around 6 in CQ with everything on the lowest possible setting. I'v had to turn it off and run space on those settings to keep the game playable. I'm afraid that one more tiny increase in graphics will make it impossible for me to play and i have no intention to voluntarily leave any time soon
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Token Afrodude
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:21:00 -
[7511]
Edited by: Token Afrodude on 25/06/2011 09:24:09
Originally by: amarri victari
i am a customer, it is my choice, i chose something else. something where customer service has a higher priority, somethign that does not treat me like a gullible, cash machine.
THIS. For "all your years of doing this" you seem to have forgotten customer service shouldnt be ignored.
Originally by: DiaLogical
If this email is real..
It was already obvious from the internal newsletter that their focus was more than ever directed towards creative (future) use of MTs. But this email completely disregards the worries many people voiced.
How can they be so blind as to not see that this is not a "resist change" reaction, but something more fundamental. It's about resetting the boundaries in the (future and current) Eve gameplay when it comes to gain-for-pay.
I thought this outspoken community response would at least get through that we're not going in the right direction here. Not only were all issues untill now blatantly ignored, the fact he states that it's not about "what we say but do" is almost like a provocation. CCP Hilmar, do you really want a critical mass of players to quit before you reconsider this self-destructive path Eve is on?
Most players don't just rebel to act out, this reaction is fueled by a seemingly total lack of respect and complete ignorance as to the issues we ask/want/need you to address!
Its real. Confirmed by CCP Navigator on the boards (through the responses on thread deletes) and i think it was CCP manifest who confirmed it VIA twitter.
A reputation for a thousand years may depend upon the conduct of a single moment. -Ernest Bramah
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Dracnys
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:23:00 -
[7512]
Cancelled one out of two accounts.
What CCP needs to do now: (in order of significance)
1. STOP INSULTING THE PLAYERS. Make a real apology and realize that you ****ed up
2. Promise not to move past vanity items
3. Make Incarna optional forever
4. Fix hardware issues with Incarna
5. Cut the prices in NEX by half or more and give people who bought items half their Aurum back
Seriously this debacle creates so much bad publicity that it will hurt the future releases by CCP. EVE has a long history, it has outlasted so many other online games and produced great innovation over and over. The question is: Is it worth it to sacrifice such a great project that has generated many millions in subscription fees to get a very short cash injection? Is selling a bunch of stupid monocles for some lousy thousands of dollars worth it? Think economic! Don't bring the cash cow to the slaughterhouse!
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MC187
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:23:00 -
[7513]
filled the character limit in the last post i made.
as far as your internal pdf goes....whatever. you should be fearful, of your playerbase for reasons i mentioned earlier. although bouncing ideas around isn't a bad thing. your players should be in the loop to a certain extent.
quoted from Zulu's blog post
Quote:
People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.
We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than whatæs in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.
i'm sure some people with more money than brains will buy these items. but i'm also sure more people would buy them if the prices were something close to sane, potentially leading to a higher overall profit. expensive designer stuff in the real world is 180 degrees from virtual property in a virtual world that has no physical value. besides, we can't legally sell virtual property from EVE on ebay. there are examples of working, successful microtransaction setups for mere vanity items all over the internet that were clearly ignored, facebook being a large hub of examples. the rules of virtual property and MT were set and excepted a while ago, and CCP just seems like it jumped over them. you cannot compare real goods to virtual good, period.
sorry zulu, the NeX moneymaking strategy probably won't go very far. i also think you have your head stuck in your own personal wormhole for that blog post, poor attempt at an analogy. but that's just me.
we're not stupid. sending out the apologetic talking head (no offense Pann) to hopefully pacify people is a waste of time. what we want is a clear, concise plan on how CCP is going to save face and restore consumer confidence. no more political doublespeak. no more banning people who call you out on your screw-ups, like the new forum snafu, and the pdf leak. new company policy: 0% BS
after countless hours of actual play i put in since i first fired up this game, i've noticed a lot of half baked or underutilized content still waiting to be improved. i won't bother listing, it's all been said before. and it all seems to get back burnered to make room for more half baked and underutilized content. i think it's due time you halted new content development and started building up what you already have.
i think this massive explosion of player anger isn't just confined to incarna. i think it's been building for a while and there's a deeper root cause which you need to find and iron out.
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Miyamoto Yamamoto
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:24:00 -
[7514]
Originally by: Glafri
Edited by: Glafri on 25/06/2011 08:56:30
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?:
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
Edit: for clarity
2 accounts unplexed in 5 days
2 PENDING ANSWER
i dont get what the problem with vanity items as long as they are cosmitics and not gameplay relating ?
if some dumass wants to spend 100$ on a pair of jeans its his problem , im i missing something out ?
there are more things to worry about in incarna than vanity items , lag , bugs , cq performance , no spining ( or at least an option to return to old hangar ) , items after been unfitted are stuck and unusable and lots more ..
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Vigor Hegelian
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:24:00 -
[7515]
For what its worth, i have 3 accounts and 2 are almost due for a top-up but i will postpone it until i see a clear statement about MT by Zulu.
I consume therefore i am...
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Teako
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:25:00 -
[7516]
Another day and ÇÇP havent learned anything yet. Guess they just want to go down in history as an epic fail.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Fearsome Engine
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:25:00 -
[7517]
IT'S NAME WAS EVE ONLINE
Originally by: Urban Dictionary
Bro we just got monocled by CCP
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Horn Silver
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:26:00 -
[7518]
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?:
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
[ ] MAYBE
[ ] AFRAID TO TELL
[ ] SCARED ****TLESS
[ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
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Forlorn Wongraven
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:26:00 -
[7519]
Subscription fees and macro transanction in the same game do not make any sense. Don't take our customers as fools, EVE is way too complex to be played by idiots.
CCP can still make that a PR win.
Remove AUR, reimburse PLEX that has been turned into AUR, make vanity item bpo so people can still use it when they want. Than brag about how cool you react on community.
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Lord Makk > I swear to god if there is a saviour, his name is Forlorn.
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Token Afrodude
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:26:00 -
[7520]
Originally by: Miyamoto Yamamoto
Originally by: Glafri
Edited by: Glafri on 25/06/2011 08:56:30
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?:
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
Edit: for clarity
2 accounts unplexed in 5 days
2 PENDING ANSWER
i dont get what the problem with vanity items as long as they are cosmitics and not gameplay relating ?
if some dumass wants to spend 100$ on a pair of jeans its his problem , im i missing something out ?
there are more things to worry about in incarna than vanity items , lag , bugs , cq performance , no spining ( or at least an option to return to old hangar ) , items after been unfitted are stuck and unusable and lots more ..
let me re-write the question for ya.
Are you moving PAST Vanity items for Aurum: Yes or No??
Bolded the Keyword.
A reputation for a thousand years may depend upon the conduct of a single moment. -Ernest Bramah
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Troyd23
Transfixion
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:27:00 -
[7521]
Edited by: Troyd23 on 25/06/2011 09:27:35
Perhaps, if we all start asking the question with one voice?...
*edit late the the party* 
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Dear CCP,
Will there or will there not be non-vanity items for purchase with Aurum?
Yours Truly,
The Eve Player Community
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*ques eve community*
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Antigue
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:27:00 -
[7522]
Guys let¦s be serious for a moment:
They NEVER cared about what anyone in this forum or elsewhere told them.
They will NOT start caring now.
All you can do is unsubscribing but their expectation is that you will not do this and finally the dust will settle and ppl will start buying shiny new ships for AUR.
Seriously: You will not quit EvE and they know this.
They have f.ucke.d up the game so many times and nothing happened. Remember the sanctum nerf? All the rage? What happened? NOTHING!
They don¦t care about what you are saying as long as you are paying. Simple as it is.
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cljjlc
Lost Soul Society
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:30:00 -
[7523]
Well no answers, trust broken. For now -3 subscrptions they end onthe 15 of july. May come back if CCP gives a D@$m and says something meaningful but there are other games to play
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Cobalt Nova
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:30:00 -
[7524]
Meh, what a load of drama here. Give the company some time and respect.
The new intro, guns and station interior look absolutely stunning. Yeah I do need a new PC. But who cares games get better and hardware changes, deal with it.
I think they did a great job here.
As long as all items are only cosmetic I won't care. Selling other items might not be a great idea, but plex can already be sold giving you isk and making you 'better' then the rest. So what is de difference in buying a ship right away. As long as skill based stats can't be bought, we would be safe I think.
Still the prices are to high regarding the subscription pricetag. Only a dread crasy is going to buy that eye implant.
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Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:30:00 -
[7525]
For all those who keep asking "will non-vanity items be in the MT store?" ... please stop. CCP have already given you your answer in the documents and responses made by them.
All your *****ing and moaning means nothing to them, Hilmar even states this in the leaked internal memo.
If you really want to get them to listen and maybe change their viewpoint ... then cancel your subscription because that's all Hilmar understands, actions!
I for one hope this gets resolved for the better because I want to play this game. But for now I have cancelled and will wait to see if CCP actually gets a reality check.
Also what do you think will happen if this MT garbage goes ahead in it's current form? other developers will see it and think they can do the same. You wont be able to escape it in any game you go to!
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Token Afrodude
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:30:00 -
[7526]
Originally by: Antigue
Guys let¦s be serious for a moment:
They NEVER cared about what anyone in this forum or elsewhere told them.
They will NOT start caring now.
All you can do is unsubscribing but their expectation is that you will not do this and finally the dust will settle and ppl will start buying shiny new ships for AUR.
Seriously: You will not quit EvE and they know this.
They have f.ucke.d up the game so many times and nothing happened. Remember the sanctum nerf? All the rage? What happened? NOTHING!
They don¦t care about what you are saying as long as you are paying. Simple as it is.
this is obvious because of the email. i have noticed on http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility that the peak logged in users has dropped by around 1k per day since incarna went live. take that for what its worth.
A reputation for a thousand years may depend upon the conduct of a single moment. -Ernest Bramah
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Domino Petachi
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:32:00 -
[7527]
2 sessions game in space, 46% load on CGU,
2 sessions in station with captain quarter ON, 100% load on CGU
2 sessions in station without captain quarter (load station environnement OFF), 58% load on CGU, with a 2D screenshot in wallpaper, all in 2D, without the fitting screen....
SERIOUSLY
And i won't talk about bugs, there is 250 pages of it ^^
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Florestan Bronstein
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:33:00 -
[7528]
Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 25/06/2011 09:33:44
via fhc:
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Hunter Verdeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:34:00 -
[7529]
The truth about vanity items in black and white from CCP
Dev Blog
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:34:00 -
[7530]
Originally by: Cobalt Nova
Meh, what a load of drama here. Give the company some time and respect.
The new intro, guns and station interior look absolutely stunning. Yeah I do need a new PC. But who cares games get better and hardware changes, deal with it.
I think they did a great job here.
As long as all items are only cosmetic I won't care. Selling other items might not be a great idea, but plex can already be sold giving you isk and making you 'better' then the rest. So what is de difference in buying a ship right away. As long as skill based stats can't be bought, we would be safe I think.
Still the prices are to high regarding the subscription pricetag. Only a dread crasy is going to buy that eye implant.
and just where do you see that it wont be possible to buy skill points as next step?????? if they start selling ships and other gamewinning stuff then why stop there and not take it further to allso be able to buy skill points?
WE WANT AN ANSWER , is that so hard to understand?
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