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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4300
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:58:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:If this thread gets locked I'll unsub my account. Because you want to keep up the activism, misleading people to think WiS is being worked on, then get them upset when they realize the truth. Dude, Hello Kitty Online -------->
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5786
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:59:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:If this thread gets locked I'll unsub my account.
This folks, is what we call a "win-win" situation for everyone involved.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
459
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:03:00 -
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Ha ha gotcha! Nah I won't unsub it was just bluffing... Thought maybe if I used my sub I could tell CCP what to do like the goons  Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM. |

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
406
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:10:00 -
[4114] - Quote
Posting in thread where some manly men are hysterically trying to convince anyone who'll listen that it's more manly to pretend you're an internet spaceship than to pretend you're a hot chick flying an internet spaceship. |

molly666trillions
Cyber Chaos Crew
42
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:36:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Dude, Hello Kitty Online --------> This kitty here will come say hello to you once WiS comes out. I promise it'll be the last word your clone will hear. Offering a (small) ISK bonus for doing community work in a provable way is from my personal perspective fine.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:41:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:This thread was made by CCP and they did not want to move it there, because it is GD thread. Ideas were shared earlier in Ideas part of forum, you could make 2 SC games out of those. Years ago! People act like Devs are still in this conversation. It's only an annoying activist thread now. The dead horse was beat senseless long ago, it decayed and now a tree has grown where it once lay. People are carving little hearts in the tree with 'WiS' inside it, while little kids climb up it's branches. That horse is long since glue! 
As you see it will perservere as a GD thread. People just post here. You too.  When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
257
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:42:00 -
[4117] - Quote
I wonder why the ISD wont lock this thread, as it has evidently served its purpose. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:47:00 -
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molly666trillions wrote:Webvan wrote:Dude, Hello Kitty Online --------> This kitty here will come say hello to you once WiS comes out. I promise it'll be the last word your clone will hear. Oh! You couldn't be somebodies forum alt  Way to stick up for yourself for posting horribly outdated quotes to make some pointless point. heh
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:54:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:I wonder why the ISD wont lock this thread, as it has evidently served its purpose. Subjective oppinion. and as you see its not ISD opinion at all. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4304
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:04:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:I wonder why the ISD wont lock this thread, as it has evidently served its purpose. At bare minimum they should at least remove Dev posts on this thread so they aren't dug up for quoting as if this is all still happening. They remove Dev blog announcements when they become contradictory after a change, so too threads like this should be cleaned up if not locked out. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:13:00 -
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And now I see why you are not a member of ISD. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4304
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:19:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:And now I see why you are not a member of ISD. Because they don't do what the Devs do? (clean up dead horse messes) I'm not saying that is true or not, but that's what you imply. Tell us more about ISD...
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:25:00 -
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Discussion is still open, and your posts are off-topic and you are questioning ISD competences here. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4304
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:38:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Discussion is still open, and your posts are off-topic and you are questioning ISD competences here. See, a lot you know (and you aught to know better), the topic is moot, it turned to glue long ago as the beaten dead horse it is. Team avatar disbanded, the guy Mr. 666 is quoting is working on merchandising, and there is no prototype for WiS any longer. This thread only serves to confuse people, which in turn gives CCP a bad name, as well as it's majority player-base who put this subject to closure long ago. The thread wasn't created for the purposes of activism, and your constant denial regarding the true status of the subject is but self-serving.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:01:00 -
[4125] - Quote
ISD can lock this thread any minute. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4308
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:08:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:ISD can lock this thread any minute. And they don't becauuuuse... WiS is real! right? ...  Or they like to laugh at the absurdity of these activist posts... 
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
258
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:09:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Erufen Rito wrote:I wonder why the ISD wont lock this thread, as it has evidently served its purpose. Subjective opinion and as you can see it's not ISD opinion at all. Can't make an unwilling blind see.
You get WiS soon. Hold your breath until it happens. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
159
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:11:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:ISD can lock this thread any minute. And they don't becauuuuse... WiS is real! right? ...  Or they like to laugh at the absurdity of these activist posts... 
What I don't understand is...
if you want this thread to go away, why do you keep posting in it?
And why are you so opposed to people engaging in conversation? |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1531
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:20:00 -
[4129] - Quote
Hah, obviously Webvan and Erufen Rito know something about confusing and giving CCP bad name. And all of this after they post about locking these thread, ISD would self-serv them well I suppose.  When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4311
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:23:00 -
[4130] - Quote
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:Webvan wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:ISD can lock this thread any minute. And they don't becauuuuse... WiS is real! right? ...  Or they like to laugh at the absurdity of these activist posts...  What I don't understand is... if you want this thread to go away, why do you keep posting in it? And why are you so opposed to people engaging in conversation? Interesting spin, but whether or not I post does not impact the staying power of this thread. We are talking activism here, the activists won't stop posting until they get what they want, no matter how low they need to sink to get it.
Yes, I'm opposed to a conversation that is misdirected through old Dev quotes that are no longer relevant to the topic and presented as if WiS is all fine and still being worked on (read the previous page). It's misleading, and only used to get the unwary player upset after having their hopes raised and then dashed after learning what the rest of us have known for a very long time. All you would have needed to do is read the previous posts to understand that. But then mega-dreadnaughts aren't for reading, eh? just for beating. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1400
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:28:00 -
[4131] - Quote
Webvan wrote:Erufen Rito wrote:I wonder why the ISD wont lock this thread, as it has evidently served its purpose. At bare minimum they should at least remove Dev posts on this thread so they aren't dug up for quoting as if this is all still happening. They remove Dev blog announcements when they become contradictory after a change, so too threads like this should be cleaned up if not locked out.
Removing Dev posts won't necessarily stop people quoting them, also why do you feel it necessary to try and deprive your opposition of useful materials if the opposition's case is as baseless as you claim? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

chaos666wraith
Cyber Chaos Crew
55
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:44:00 -
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One of my missions as an artificial person is to gather as much information as I can about human emotions, so I can understand and replicate them better.
I've often asked myself "Why do humans cry?" Now I can understand why, but it is something I will never be able to do.
I hope that once WiS is launched I can meet more fellow humans in station to watch them shed tears more often. Saying that EVE is just about spaceships, is a bit like saying that phones should only be about making voice phone calls one on one with other people. Indeed they did start out like that, but as technology evolved, they become something much bigger. We hope you guys stay with us long enough for that dream to materialize. - CCP t0rfifrans |

molly666trillions
Cyber Chaos Crew
43
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:13:00 -
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I can't cry myself. When I had my lenses implanted the tear ducts were re-routed to my mouth due to fitting issues.
Now whenever I would cry, I just spit. It's kind of unpleasant, you wouldn't wanna meet me in WiS. Offering a (small) ISK bonus for doing community work in a provable way is from my personal perspective fine.
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
819
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:19:00 -
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Poast with your main. 
Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette | Generally Clueless
CCP Eterne: "Naked avatars for PLEX." |

Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
440
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:48:00 -
[4135] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Mocam wrote:You don't shift to that style of presentation unless that is the more appealing aspect to those you are trying to draw as new customers. advertisments that feature eyes or faces are more effective. at getting looked at. Quote: If fixes or adjustments come up to a part of the game that doesn't interest me, it happens. but if a new feature comes up that's entirely undercooked, unusable by a good proportion of players, unlikely to deliver any meaningful content in years if ever and at the expense of development/iteration of the content the vast majority of the niche userbase enjoys, a whole lot of people unsub and shoot a statue. then development gets delayed indefinitely ~i advise you get over whining about it~
You do have a rather limited point but a point none the less.
Yes, faces do sell more than the ships when the composite is available. Games that offer composite experiences or focus on a given area present that to the foreground or mixed as the foreground - race cars, tanks, planes, etc.
Remember when this stuff stopped and what else happened?
We'd been getting nothing but under cooked changes for a good year and a half due to stated changes in CCP's delivery method. It gave all of EVE a pretty "beta" feel for some time there. NOTHING came out complete - it was all "streamed" to us in bits and pieces to flesh things out.
We got a new avatar system "no tattoos for Minmatar?!?! no hoods for Amarr?" etc. The first pass on that tool (which was the first steps towards walking in stations) - we got what was it, 3 or 4 "free" reworkings of our characters? Also the changes in looks angered many people as they'd specifically picked their avatars in the earlier release but... they got over it.
With the first pass with the "ambulation" part, it wasn't walking around which angering so many as an option. What else happened?
We lost ship spinning with a fairly quick dock-up. There was nothing in that room but the NEX store - jammed in your face style in-game store sales? Then we had people overheating video cards due to the graphics load and of course the really angering points -- "golden ammo" internal news letter and the "don't listen to what they say, watch what they do" leaked memo from the CEO. The composite caused riots.
This was just 1 more "streamed" feature that we'd been getting from CCP for about a year and a half but this one had the "iteration" process to flesh it out interrupted but it wasn't the core of those riots.
Being promised and not even half finished - I will stick with let them finish it for those they promised it to since before I started this game. |

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
408
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:56:00 -
[4136] - Quote
Mocam wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Mocam wrote:You don't shift to that style of presentation unless that is the more appealing aspect to those you are trying to draw as new customers. advertisments that feature eyes or faces are more effective. at getting looked at. Quote: If fixes or adjustments come up to a part of the game that doesn't interest me, it happens. but if a new feature comes up that's entirely undercooked, unusable by a good proportion of players, unlikely to deliver any meaningful content in years if ever and at the expense of development/iteration of the content the vast majority of the niche userbase enjoys, a whole lot of people unsub and shoot a statue. then development gets delayed indefinitely ~i advise you get over whining about it~ You do have a rather limited point but a point none the less. Yes, faces do sell more than the ships when the composite is available. Games that offer composite experiences or focus on a given area present that to the foreground or mixed as the foreground - race cars, tanks, planes, etc. Remember when this stuff stopped and what else happened? We'd been getting nothing but under cooked changes for a good year and a half due to stated changes in CCP's delivery method. It gave all of EVE a pretty "beta" feel for some time there. NOTHING came out complete - it was all "streamed" to us in bits and pieces to flesh things out. We got a new avatar system "no tattoos for Minmatar?!?! no hoods for Amarr?" etc. The first pass on that tool (which was the first steps towards walking in stations) - we got what was it, 3 or 4 "free" reworkings of our characters? Also the changes in looks angered many people as they'd specifically picked their avatars in the earlier release but... they got over it. With the first pass with the "ambulation" part, it wasn't walking around which angering so many as an option. What else happened? We lost ship spinning with a fairly quick dock-up. There was nothing in that room but the NEX store - jammed in your face style in-game store sales? Then we had people overheating video cards due to the graphics load and of course the really angering points -- "golden ammo" internal news letter and the "don't listen to what they say, watch what they do" leaked memo from the CEO. The composite caused riots. This was just 1 more "streamed" feature that we'd been getting from CCP for about a year and a half but this one had the "iteration" process to flesh it out interrupted but it wasn't the core of those riots. Being promised and not even half finished - I will stick with let them finish it for those they promised it to since before I started this game.
Excellent post. Yes, the alarm bells started ringing for me when the avatar system was introduced - fantastic detail and execution (for the most part) and in that sense wonderful. But wait a minute - where had the character of EVE avatars gone? Where were the whacky visors and thingummibobs nobody knew what they did? Where was the gold lam+¬, the peculiar hairdos, etc., etc.? Suddenly we had - generic movie s-f space cowboys. Suddenly, CCP seemed to have lost their balls and gone for something very conventional and dull in terms of art design.
And then, it went as you say.
It's encouraging to see from the graphics panel some slight return of the style EVE used to have with the avatar clothing, some slight return of a sense of cultures that have drifted so far from the Earthly that they might as well be aliens.
It's just a shame nobody can see one's choices but oneself.
But it will come - despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth of some of the troglodytes here, CCP know what side their bread is buttered on, in the long run. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1537
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:24:00 -
[4137] - Quote
I have seen old characters and some of them are too fantasy for me. Making something Sci-Fi and not overdoing it so it will become silly is a hard job. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif EVE Online = Ministry of Silly Tooltips. |

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
414
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Posted - 2014.05.16 11:16:00 -
[4138] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:I have seen old characters and some of them are too fantasy for me. Making something Sci-Fi and not overdoing it so it will become silly is a hard job.
With the original CC, you had the option of making your character as weird or as straightforward as you wanted. Now you have only the option of straightforward.
If someone likes a generic movie s-f look, no problem; but the EVE CC had the possibility of creating a character with more of an "edge" originally, more of a unique flavour. Something was gained, sure (quality and detail obviously), but something was lost in terms of making EVE a unique "place", and its characters as batshit crazy-looking as the in-game events and lore.
But it was what that change portended that made me uncomfortable - I could have lived with a generic movie s-f base, and paid-for whacky addons. But the way CCP went was clearly some half-baked attempt to make the game more appealing to the mainstream. Alarm bells.
I didn't come to EVE to play a game like Star Citizen, where the lore extrapolation is "pretty much like us, only more technologically advanced", I initially loved EVE (in terms of feel and lore) because it seemed like a place so distant from us, so weird, so crazy, so alien, that it was actually really original in terms of an s-f concept.
Cultures that had been separated from us for thousands of years, gone through barbarism and rebuilding, with only distant memories of Earth That Was, would be unlikely to think of aviator glasses the height of fashion. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1107
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Posted - 2014.05.16 11:26:00 -
[4139] - Quote
Barb! Hey! :D How're you doing, pretty? (:
I'm not sure the CC can be blamed too much here. It's the people who create them. There can be really nice and unique characters made, but many don't even try. :(
I'm doing my own efforts to improve the situation. Had so many talks about colors and clothes and expressions already... it's exhausting! xD https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |

Sibyyl
Brave Collective
921
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Posted - 2014.05.16 11:29:00 -
[4140] - Quote
Are some of the old avatars archived somewhere? I'm curious as to what "weird" sci fi possibilities they had.. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |
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