Nope. But keep trying to throw up walls of words about how your opinion is that of everyone else. It's entertaining.

Sure. As soon as you stop whining about people offering suggestions for improvements.

My entire post was aimed at people crying about how confusing it was. You chose to argue that post.

The new UI would remain confusing until you saw something drop to hull ONCE.

Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type.

http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png

I chose to inform you what the problem was since you apparently didn't get it (even though it was fairly well spelled out in many of the posts you were reacting to).

If you don't want the answer, don't ask the question.

GǪand again, it's not a matter of confusion but of good design. It doesn't matter if you learn it after the first time GÇö if it looks odd or lacking in information the first time you see it, then it's a good instinct to get rid of that first doubt, especially since so little is needed to fix it.

Again, there's a reason why the vast majority of gauges work this way: because it communicates the idea well (be it by convention or by deeper cognitive reasons) and because it costs nothing to add this piece of information. So again, what's so upsetting about people suggesting a simple improvement to something that immediately caught everyone's attention?

Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type.

http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png

This is good - even CCP's suggestion doesn't indicate the damage type you're taking. Once you got the hang of interpreting this it'd tell you everything in a very clean way.

Perhaps you missed my point the first time since you keep trying to knock down that straw man. I have no issue with people suggesting improvements

you however did not quote my post to suggest improvements, you quoted it directly to refute my point that it's not all that confusing once you sit down and use it.

It's not confusing unless your IQ is lower than 40. End of story.

Much with whats been said previously in this thread i agree with, but one of the absolute best things you guys could do is indicate other effects on enemies better.

Ie warp scrambling webbing etc... yes we have visual cues for those but some we dont at all like tracking disruption, sensor dampening etc... plz plz plz as you've added the effect bar above the ships control area of the HUD theres no need to also include these on the overview box still... stop throwing the same info to multiple areas unless you're doing something clever with them.

id much rather see the icons in the overview area be purple versions of itself to show fleet effects on those contacts in the overview (fleet effects being the effects on the overview contact performed by a member of my fleet)

That would benefit us imensly , it would not be immersion breaking, we dont need more info streamed to us as its info our clients already get to render effects to and from objects in space.

to sum up:
it helps people co-ordinate better without out of game advantages.
it uses art assets that are practically there already.
It turns a now obsolete duplicated system into something useful.
it doesn't increase server load.

No. I quoted you to explain why people are reacting to it, since you were asking why. I also explained why a relatively simple change would improve things; illustrated how it's not an uncommon issue that has a well-known solution to it; and why first impressions are actually worth listening too, regardless of how clear things become at a later point.

It's not confusing unless your IQ is lower than 40. End of story.

Interesting idea

I don't recall asking for any of that information.

Again, that's your opinion.

Eve players figured out the new circular non layered fitting window, they can figure out an HP bar working the exact same way.

also i noticed int the pics in the dev blog that the arrows spinning around the avatr are not in sync plese fix this for my ocd friends in space and als what are the four bars on the outside of the s/a/h bars if you mad these blink yellow and red for lock and argo that would be nice also im confsed as to what label is on the target circle is that the name of the ship or the ship type or the pilots name if you could put the pilots name then the ship type under the locked targets window in that order that would be nice so in pvp i could just say " skils in the raven is blaping me OMG KILL HIM NOW HEEEEEEEEEEELP ME HE HAZ POINTZ ON MEEEEE...nvm im dead"
the reson i say this is cause the avatar says avatar but the raven says skillz im asuming this is the raven pilots name???? plz clarifie dis for me plzthx

Here are some clearer shots of that concept UI featured at Fanfest. I really hope the final UI redesigns end up looking sleek like this.

(Regular ship view with destruction effects)
(Tactical view)

I would like this style better :

http://i.imgur.com/8szst.png

3 rings. The outer most one is the shield, the mid one is armor and the inner one is hull.

very nice change I also would like to see the brackets that are rotating around the main bracket to have a purpose like indicating the targets status for example

rotating brackets spinning fast is high transversal velocity or low when spinning slowly

rotating brackets have tight rotation around main bracket is good tracking a lose rotation is but tracking

rotating brackets have a different color or shape to indicate when in falloff off or optimal

i have slept a night about this and i have come to the following conclusion

giving hp bars on the brackets themselves might be to much clutter for my screen

how about connecting a locked target with its bracket via a line on the screen ? not sure if it is a good idea, but it might reduce clutter, which is a good thing

Your poor memory isn't something I can help you with. Go back and read what you wrote, and I'm sure you'll spot it very quickly.

Not reallyGǪ well, yes, it's my opinion too, but that's largely because I picked it up from people who are good at designing these kinds of things. If the current damage layout is not intuitive, then that just means there's a good reason to make it more intuitive, and in this area in particular, it is more intuitive: there's a beginning and an end.

Fun fact: the fitting window does not work the same way GÇö in fact, it works the way people are suggesting it should work: clearly separated segments, and different colours representing different quantities.

How cute, it doesn't understand a rhetorical statement when it sees one.

Once again a block of words utterly unrelated to the discussion at hand!

The fragments look pretty separated to me.

This looks good, but I have a word of caution CCP:

The blink animation on hit with variable opacity is really cool and all, but I feel like it should be at least partially based on damage you've received over a reasonable time period -- like 2-3 seconds -- rather than simply on-hit. If it is only on-hit, there is motivation to split up weapon groups to make every hit as unobtrusive and difficult to notice as possible, letting everyone else get the big hits and light themselves up as a target. This naturally increases server load, and anything that's a reason to increase server load can't be good.

This is actually something I've been thinking about, and I don't know if people would rather press 8 buttons just to try to fly under the radar.

I have no issue discussing that topic. I do in fact find the people complaining about how confusing it is to be frighteningly dim.

... I don't know if people would rather press 8 buttons just to try to fly under the radar.