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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:36:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:
If you have many smaller hits, your bracket should be really busy, and therefore drawing attention to you.
This is actually something I've been thinking about, and I don't know if people would rather press 8 buttons just to try to fly under the radar.
From the perspective of gang fights I don't think it'll make too much of a difference PvP wise. The best FCs and small gang PvPers learn all the PvP ships and the optimised load outs anyway, so you'll know which ship should be doing the most DPS and have the least tank.
FC's generally call targets by ship type rather then DPS received right now, unless of course that's something you're hoping to change. |
BobFromMarketing
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:38:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:BobFromMarketing wrote:
I have no issue discussing that topic. I do in fact find the people complaining about how confusing it is to be frighteningly dim.
You aren't actually discussing anything, just throwing out random ad hominem arguments.
You are correct! I stopped trying to discuss things pretty much with my initial post which it has yet to touch on. Choosing instead to hammer out sentences while throwing the word intuitive in wherever it feels it can. |
marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:38:00 -
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1. Pilots will just turn anything off that distracts them.
2. Pilots will just turn anything off that might possibly contribute to latency.
3. Pilots that engage in PvP will have the experience to know who is who and what threat they pose.
4. Pilots that engage in PvE will not give a damn about flashing stuff, they just kill everything and move on quickly.
5. Pilots in Fleet fights will have graphics turned down, brackets off and use only minimal information to fight.
While I fully understand the need for children to get out there crayons and draw brightly coloured pictures this Dev blog just confirms my belief that CCP has no real understanding of how players actually play EVE, what it is they actually need CCP to fix and why if they wish to increase the player enjoyment of the game they 'NEED', to get a handle on this aspect before they go forwards in this manner.
Introducing fancy flashing thingy's into the game may from there point of view be everything to them right now, play EVE and the multitude of former bugs still evident in the game to a player is the real detractor in EVE.
Want something that will actually make EVE a better place to be, sort the PoS interface maybe, or invest in the servers to reduce latency, maybe correct the chat system, heard about that one have you,
In short try and understand what it is that makes EVE players tick, why are they here in the first place and when they are here what is it they actually do and I can assure you it is not spend every minute trying to kill each other while drooling over your inept attempts at Disney graphics.
If you are determined to introduce this flight of fancy into the game could you please do the one thing that players will really enjoy and add a button to change these graphics to a minimalistic design for those of us that have no need of them, you know the sort of thing, no clutter, less distraction sort of thing, the very reason the original hud/target graphics were changed to begin with all those years ago.
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Bubanni
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
465
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:39:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Iam Widdershins wrote:This looks good, but I have a word of caution CCP:
The blink animation on hit with variable opacity is really cool and all, but I feel like it should be at least partially based on damage you've received over a reasonable time period -- like 2-3 seconds -- rather than simply on-hit. If it is only on-hit, there is motivation to split up weapon groups to make every hit as unobtrusive and difficult to notice as possible, letting everyone else get the big hits and light themselves up as a target. This naturally increases server load, and anything that's a reason to increase server load can't be good. If you have many smaller hits, your bracket should be really busy, and therefore drawing attention to you. This is actually something I've been thinking about, and I don't know if people would rather press 8 buttons just to try to fly under the radar.
The effect could simply stack? so the more shots that are fired within a short period (and dealing high damage % of your health) the more flashy it becomes like you showed... so basicly splitting guns dont make a difference
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
948
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:41:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:While the circular brackets are nice to look at - don't they make a pretty heavy demand on CPU/GPU versus the square brackets? Client performance should be a higher goal than pretty. In terms of rendering there is negligible difference. Concerns about performance are duly noted and something we are keenly aware of.
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Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient
Electus Matari
211
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:52:00 -
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John Nucleus wrote:Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type. http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png
Now this is what I'd like to see 
What is the point if every race has an Jam/Damp/Disruptor/ ship etc? Not every race has to be a fluffy little mirror of each other, it's seriously not needed. Things like Gallente having the only drone BS and Caldari having the only ECM BS are incredibly cool distinctions that only add to EVE in both game play value and flavour. |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
73
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:53:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:CCP karkur wrote:Iam Widdershins wrote:This looks good, but I have a word of caution CCP:
The blink animation on hit with variable opacity is really cool and all, but I feel like it should be at least partially based on damage you've received over a reasonable time period -- like 2-3 seconds -- rather than simply on-hit. If it is only on-hit, there is motivation to split up weapon groups to make every hit as unobtrusive and difficult to notice as possible, letting everyone else get the big hits and light themselves up as a target. This naturally increases server load, and anything that's a reason to increase server load can't be good. If you have many smaller hits, your bracket should be really busy, and therefore drawing attention to you. This is actually something I've been thinking about, and I don't know if people would rather press 8 buttons just to try to fly under the radar. The effect could simply stack? so the more shots that are fired within a short period (and dealing high damage % of your health) the more flashy it becomes like you showed... so basicly splitting guns dont make a difference http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8183/8075811191_1c6ff3bc27_o.png also I agree we need tactical overlay kinda like this
This looks awesome, and has utility in fleet fights.
These circular HP bars are going to be useless in fleet fights with people zoomed out a considerable distance and/or hiding brackets.
It is also counter-intuitive (compared to 3 bars stacked as with current target locks) to look at a circle and have to work out which segment means what.
I wish CCP would just give us the tools to skin the UI ourselves, to be honest. Forcing an alternative way of presenting the same information is always going to have fans and detractors. |
Bubanni
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
465
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:56:00 -
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Kenpachi Viktor wrote:John Nucleus wrote:Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type. http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png Now this is what I'd like to see
I agree, this is perfect,
In the past it's basicly been impossible to see which damage type someone is shooting you with (unless it was lasers or hybrids)
Something similar to that would be perfect, design wise together with what Karkur has already made
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
892
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:59:00 -
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On the subject of locked target icons, I have to say I like the current (flat) style more than the new (round) style. I think it is much easier to eyeball, even after one gets used to the "which one is shield". And I'm not even talking about new players who will have all the right to be confused.
However, the round style would allow for a very neat effect: scale the length (angle) of the shield / armor / hull indicators in proportion to the target's hitpoints. So a shield-tanked ship might have its shield bar take up 2/3 of the circle, armor bar 2/9, and hull bar 1/9. This would give a much better indication of "how much longer do I need to shoot until this guy dies". |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
892
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:01:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:Kenpachi Viktor wrote:John Nucleus wrote:Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type. http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png Now this is what I'd like to see I agree, this is perfect, In the past it's basicly been impossible to see which damage type someone is shooting you with (unless it was lasers or hybrids) Something similar to that would be perfect, design wise together with what Karkur has already made
Hmm, how is it useful to you to know what damage type you are getting shot by? It's not like you can adjust your resistances on the fly... (at least unless you have carrier support) |
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
2292
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:On the one hand, we have the GÇ£lock rowGÇ¥ GÇö the list of ships that we have locked and which we intend to do something to GÇö and on the other hand, we have the free-floating brackets. Right now, it looks like the two are meant to be largely the same, which is what's causing the repeated mention of duplication and redundant information. It also means a lot more screen clutter. Neither of those are good things.
This is an important point, and it's good that you emphasize it. I would go further and say that there are many substates of the free-floating brackets. For example:
* the basic bracket
* ships that I am locking
* ships that are locked
* ships that are selected in the overview
* ships that are on my watchlist
* ships that are locking me
* ships that have locked me
* ships that are doing good things to me
* ships that are doing bad things to me
Ideally, there should be several variants of the free-floating brackets, with different levels of detail (including associated info boxes, etc) -- and players should be able to configure what info is provided for each state (subject to the limitations of what info the client actually has, of course). There's no one-size-fits-all for this, and in particular, different types of fights mean different kinds of settings.
Couple of random things:
WRT those people who prefer the straight bar damage indicators, I empathise. My original thought when CSM got a preview of this blog was a stack of arcs, preserving that metaphor. But reading through this thread, and seeing the various prototypes people are coming up with, I've come to the conclusion that it has the problem of making the bracket non-symmetrical (ie: it does not easily fit into a square box, or the circular subset of it).
So I'm not so much against the circular indicator as long as it builds upon existing real-world metaphors that everyone is familar with, such as a speedometer or gas gauge. One possible way to reinforce that metaphor would be to limit the circular indicator for s/a/h to one hemisphere, like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/imzy8swdukqm364/TreborMockup2.png
This would also free up the bottom hemisphere for additional info readouts.
Finally, I would like to thank CCP karkur and the rest of the team for going to the community for feedback early in the process. I think it's been very productive, and I hope that it becomes the expected norm.
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
949
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:06:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:The red damaged stripes.. why they are not progressing counter clockwise? I think it's more intuitive. All damage is counterclockwise. This new circle indicators are different. Heat buildup (on the HUD) is like a pressure gauge and builds up clock-wise. Module damage (due to heat) is clock-wise. The new targeting/damage system is clock-wise. The odd one out will be the HUD itself, there damage is counter-clock-wise. Are there any other damage indicators?
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
699
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:06:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Bubanni wrote:Kenpachi Viktor wrote:John Nucleus wrote:Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type. http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png Now this is what I'd like to see I agree, this is perfect, In the past it's basicly been impossible to see which damage type someone is shooting you with (unless it was lasers or hybrids) Something similar to that would be perfect, design wise together with what Karkur has already made Hmm, how is it useful to you to know what damage type you are getting shot by? It's not like you can adjust your resistances on the fly... (at least unless you have carrier support)
Adaptive hardeners, so you know when to change their cycle?
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
699
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:08:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:The red damaged stripes.. why they are not progressing counter clockwise? I think it's more intuitive. All damage is counterclockwise. This new circle indicators are different. Heat buildup (on the HUD) is like a pressure gauge and builds up clock-wise. Module damage (due to heat) is clock-wise. The new targeting/damage system is clock-wise. The odd one out will be the HUD itself, there damage is counter-clock-wise. Are there any other damage indicators?
'Intuitive' is an interesting one.
I'd have thought:
3 segments, starting at 12 o'clock with shields, then armour, then hull.
filling in red clockwise.
That's 'intuitive' for me.
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PDP11
EVE University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:08:00 -
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Quote:When someone has you targeted, the new 'yellow box' targeting icon will appear around their bracket. It will blink very subtly (or maybe not at all, we are still playing with it).
Don't do it, just don't. I hate the idea of subtle. Suggest on an initial lock that the 'yellow box' flares up bright (very unsubtle) and over time it becomes subtle (flashing, dims, whatever). The idea is being locked is in your face but if nothing further happens it gets less attention. If over time there are a series of locks you can tell who has put on the latest lock so you can know the source of the latest threat. |
Tetania
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:09:00 -
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Nice to see more general UI work. Anything that improves the availability of information to aid player decision making is a positive change.
First up I'd like to ask people stop polluting the discussion with "think of the newbies" "which bar is shields" comments. This is pretty dumb. Think of the first time you played any game with a UI. The concept of health and resource is ingrained in gaming when the bar starts turning red segment at a time in a clockwise direction you will implicitly understand.
A couple of general comments on design now. As mentioned before please use shape where possible rather than colour. Strongly consider this for in range, out of range, locking, locked etc. Brackets could be Diamond, broken diamond, square, broken square, Circle as the state transitions from a totally neutral target to a locked agressed target. This is very quickly identified and is colour blind and partially sighted safe.
Consider projected effects and ewar as part of the design. Having a consistent presentation of information to players is a must. Brackets are a great place to have all this info.
Also consider other Overview info like speed and traversal for brackets.
And finally you have mentioned that the notification area is an area for future development but please consider bringing all of these elements together. Floating combat text has become the standard for everything from single player RPGs to MMOs since modders to WoW showed what was possible. It presents allot of detailed info in a visual and obvious form the player can analise quickly. |
GeeShizzle MacCloud
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:11:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Bubanni wrote:Kenpachi Viktor wrote:John Nucleus wrote:Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type. http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png Now this is what I'd like to see I agree, this is perfect, In the past it's basicly been impossible to see which damage type someone is shooting you with (unless it was lasers or hybrids) Something similar to that would be perfect, design wise together with what Karkur has already made Hmm, how is it useful to you to know what damage type you are getting shot by? It's not like you can adjust your resistances on the fly... (at least unless you have carrier support)
this thread has become "information for informations sake". its not like knowing the damage type ur being hit with will change anything barring carrier groups being able to retrofit.
these also seems to be a spreading requirement to duplicate information in various areas on the screen. if you duplicate information then people get confused, plus more screen real estate gets used literally for no real reason! have it in one place thats logical and easy to find, not scattered in 5 different places jeez.
as much as i love a 20 page thread about the merits of circles vs squares, can we have something coming out of this that aids players experiences in space like fleet ewar/ecm effects on overview contacts. itd be a great benefit to all players. |
Bubanni
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
465
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:15:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Bubanni wrote:Kenpachi Viktor wrote:John Nucleus wrote:Thought I would throw this out there, might generate some ideas for the new damage indicator. The idea was to have a simple indicator that shows hit quality, damage and damage type. http://i.imgur.com/RZq0p.png Now this is what I'd like to see I agree, this is perfect, In the past it's basicly been impossible to see which damage type someone is shooting you with (unless it was lasers or hybrids) Something similar to that would be perfect, design wise together with what Karkur has already made Hmm, how is it useful to you to know what damage type you are getting shot by? It's not like you can adjust your resistances on the fly... (at least unless you have carrier support)
Well, it's not useless information either :)
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Willie Horton
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:20:00 -
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Is there any chance to give option to players to choose from few UI templates?
For example this what you are making now to be advanced graphic version of UI,and what we are we using now to be lets say "compact" version.
I am not fan of cosmetic things like this UI looks,I like pure simple boxes and numbers that give me info what I need.I dont see what benefit I get from slick UI looks.It is nice to see ,but game wise beside nice cosmetic look it is just not game changing.
Dont get me wrong ,but for example only sub based MMO that is still there is WoW.They dont have any problem giving players option to make UI as they like and it is like that for years .I dont say you need to do same ,but at least give us option so we can decide what is better for us.
UI changes are always pain ,I know you cant make all people happy ,still giving players more options is nice.For me as I said more graphic is something I dont like ,but that is personal so I cant say my choice is best for others.Saying that maybe it would be nice not to force players to use just one option as mandatory.
PS nice work ,I hope you would use all feedback when you make final version.
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GeeShizzle MacCloud
213
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:20:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:
Well, it's not useless information either :)
maybe not for you Bubanni, but most people in eve dont go around in slowcat carrier groups or have configured carriers on hotdrops to allow on the fly module switching.
itd be a very niche thing for a very select group of people, people who should be able to tell by damage notifications if someones hitting their resist hole or having their shots be pinged off their highest effective tank profile. |
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Radius Prime
EVE University
Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:22:00 -
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Will there be an option to return to the old interface like with windows 8... or maybe not :P?
On a serious note like the squares on top. Thing with curved objects is they can deceive you when they display information.
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Beat General
Painkiller.
61
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:25:00 -
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Looks good.
Very nice!
The only thing I want to suggest is to make the round shield and armor indicators to go in the same direction.
So it would spin counter clockwise until it reaches zero! |
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
949
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:25:00 -
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Maria Kitiare wrote:Most of your players read from left to right, so if You insist on giving us those circles, please make it so shield is on the left side, armor on the right and hull on the bottom. This will also make it more in line with the current mod timer animation that starts in the bottom and moves around.. The day starts at midnight, at 12 o'clock, which is at the top of the clock, and the day progresses clock-wise. The targeting animation starts at "12 o'clock" and progresses clock-wise, same for the damage (shields starts at "12 o'clock"). Your mod timer animation observation is correct, it progresses clock-wise but starts at "6 o'clock"; perhaps that should be changed to start at "12 o'clock" as well. But that's for CCP karkur and Team Pony Express to think about if and how they want to tackle, not me. 
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Bubanni
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
466
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:28:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Bubanni wrote:
Well, it's not useless information either :)
maybe not for you Bubanni, but most people in eve dont go around in slowcat carrier groups or have configured carriers on hotdrops to allow on the fly module switching. itd be a very niche thing for a very select group of people, people who should be able to tell by damage notifications if someones hitting their resist hole or having their shots be pinged off their highest effective tank profile.
Look at my edit above, just because you can't see a use for it, doesn't mean someone else out there wont like the information, what harm would it do to have a subtle information about the damage type being dealt to you?
I did not even consider the slowcats when I thought it was a awesome thing to see. I was thinking about newbies out there, about people who fly around with damage types being dealt by rats in their bio :)
It's not like it would be a disadvantage to you in pvp or a huge advantage for that matter, but that doesn't mean it's not useful for something else
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
949
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:31:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:please make sure this adds no extra server calls or data requests from the server CCP Atlas alt spotted!!!!!!  And epically then CCP Atlas published an internal tech devblog today on how to monitor client calls.
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Bubanni
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
466
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:31:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Maria Kitiare wrote:Most of your players read from left to right, so if You insist on giving us those circles, please make it so shield is on the left side, armor on the right and hull on the bottom. This will also make it more in line with the current mod timer animation that starts in the bottom and moves around.. The day starts at midnight, at 12 o'clock, which is at the top of the clock, and the day progresses clock-wise. The targeting animation starts at "12 o'clock" and progresses clock-wise, same for the damage (shields starts at "12 o'clock"). Your mod timer animation observation is correct, it progresses clock-wise but starts at "6 o'clock"; perhaps that should be changed to start at "12 o'clock" as well. But that's for CCP karkur and Team Pony Express to think about if and how they want to tackle, not me.
I gotta agree with Maria though, regardless of when the day starts :D
shields on left, armor on right, hull at bottom,
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Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
201
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:35:00 -
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The new UI looks nice. The functionality is of limited usefulness, though.
Whether a ship is in targeting range is not an important information in most ships and in most situations. Usually everyone will be in targeting range. But not in optimal range of our weapons or modules. The only regular exception is when you fly an interceptor or similar. So the more useful info would be: Is the target in optimal range? Is it within optimal+falloff?
Which ship does the most damage to me is more useful, but not much. If I fight an Ares, a Hurricane and a Drake, I don't need the UI tell me who hurts me most. The more useful info here would really be: Does this ship hurt me as much as it could? Are my evasion maneuvers working?
The dev blog recognizes how awful and useless the damage notifications are. Why don't you replace them with something else?
-make a new notification area
-messages are displayed in several rows so we cannot only see the last one
-filters can be applied to reduce the number of messages (filter out message about drones etc)
-shorten the messages to the essentials: "Name | severity of hit | damage amount" Cut the useless filler text so we can always see at first glance what's happening!
Abdiel Kavash wrote:Hmm, how is it useful to you to know what damage type you are getting shot by? It's not like you can adjust your resistances on the fly... (at least unless you have carrier support)
You can save cap by activating only the hardeners you need, and you can choose to overheat just the needed hardeners so you can overheat for longer periods before burning out.
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Bubanni
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
466
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:39:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Hmm, how is it useful to you to know what damage type you are getting shot by? It's not like you can adjust your resistances on the fly... (at least unless you have carrier support) You can save cap by activating only the hardeners you need, and you can choose to overheat just the needed hardeners so you can overheat for longer periods before burning out.
Good example :D
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Louise deGuerre
Public Funded War Targets
0
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:43:00 -
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While I can't say the devblog has excited me much there are tons of excellent suggestions in these comments.
I hope CCP is taking notes. |
Tetania
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.10.11 11:46:00 -
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The tactical overlay already provides for optimal and falloff range judgement in a better way than brackets ever could. There is of course no reason lock range couldn't be dealt with there too.
A good UI design won't duplicate but will present information in most obvious and easily assimilated way possible. |
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