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Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1355	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:00:00 - [1] - Quote Would appear Goonswarm is back to manipulating the Oxygen Isotope market (good on them, by the way.) Mackinaw killmails are rolling in. Volume the last two days has been nearly triple the norm. And prices are 1.5x higher than they were. Prepare. Stockpile. Invest. Will the prices head upwards to 1400 ISK per unit, as they did last interdiction? Caldari Militia
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2739	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:01:00 - [2] - Quote not likely as now we have fuel blocks "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com
Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1355	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:03:00 - [3] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: not likely as now we have fuel blocks I'm not sure exactly how the works ... but I assume you still have to mine the stuff before turning them into fuel blocks. Caldari Militia
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 1297	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:11:00 - [4] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: not likely as now we have fuel blocks I'm not sure exactly how the works ... but I assume you still have to mine the stuff before turning them into fuel blocks. Correct. It was bound to swing up anyway due to the all time low. Though some exploding ships likely helped spread some panic.
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 349	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:13:00 - [5] - Quote NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 360	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:15:00 - [6] - Quote Just in time for my new hot-rod PC to (hopefully) make EVE playable again! Yay'z, I haz happy! Urp-splosion? Stealth Bomber bombs and covert-bridging in hisec naow, please: It's the only way to make sure!
baltec1 Bat Country 2470	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:16:00 - [7] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do.
Jonah Gravenstein Mahatma Cote Temporal Research 1615	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:18:00 - [8] - Quote Hmm I see a tie in with James315, the New Order bump 'em the Goons gank them. Emergent gameplay at it's finest Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid---
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 384	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:26:00 - [9] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Would appear Goonswarm is back to manipulating the Oxygen Isotope market (good on them, by the way.) Mackinaw killmails are rolling in. Volume the last two days has been nearly triple the norm. And prices are 1.5x higher than they were. Prepare. Stockpile. Invest. Will the prices head upwards to 1400 ISK per unit, as they did last interdiction? If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lrgYd2Sd3iM/TNLCFtWlIHI/AAAAAAAAAM0/GNU4PtIO__k/s1600/sardines-shark-south-africa-707706-xl.jpg Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 352	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:27:00 - [10] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do. No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya.... And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction? Lies. All lies. I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5151	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:29:00 - [11] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like mackruels in a school of sardiens http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/20100518-school-of-fish.jpg what This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting. fofofofofo
baltec1 Bat Country 2470	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:34:00 - [12] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya.... And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction? Lies. All lies. You can thank the freighter pilots for the subsities Also NC.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:36:00 - [13] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do. No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya.... And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction? Lies. All lies. This. After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits.
baltec1 Bat Country 2470	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:38:00 - [14] - Quote MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: This. After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits. Whoever said anythng about making a profit?
Jonah Gravenstein Mahatma Cote Temporal Research 1615	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:39:00 - [15] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines English translation, people will afk mine ice in multiboxed Procurors. The truth is that even if they did, they wouldn't fit tanks, they would fit for yield/cargo and would die to a suicide gank, not to mention that the cargo hold is too small to make it actually viable. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid---
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 384	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:39:00 - [16] - Quote Andski wrote: what ICE procuror fits can AFK for about 30 minutes & have ~5X the eHP... will be interesting if they start popping up or if cheap retiervers replace the MACs in the ice fields Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:39:00 - [17] - Quote baltec1 wrote: MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: This. After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits. Whoever said anythng about making a profit? I'm being lazy today, so not gonna go dig up yer posts. But I'm pretty sure you were one of the ones claiming that you could no longer profit from suiciding miners. Let me know if you disagree so I can start digging a bit .
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 352	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:40:00 - [18] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya.... And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction? Lies. All lies. You can thank the freighter pilots for the subsities Also NC. So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. I feel much better now. I was positive the horrendous angst in multiple topics, the tears, the concerns, the outrage, the rants about those stupid, stupid miners and those poor, poor gankers was all TRUE. Phew. Ok, thx. Resuming life as I know it. I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1355	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:43:00 - [19] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do. Not unless you buy up a crap tonne of Oxytopes, at the all-time low, then start attacking to force the price upwards. Profit! Caldari Militia
Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1356	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:46:00 - [20] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. Attacking a Mack isn't profitable. What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks. Caldari Militia
baltec1 Bat Country 2470	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:47:00 - [21] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. No.
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 384	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:49:00 - [22] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines English translation, people will afk mine ice in multiboxed Procurors. The truth is that even if they did, they wouldn't fit tanks, they would fit for yield/cargo and would die to a suicide gank, not to mention that the cargo hold is too small to make it actually viable. I seem to recall at least room for 12 ice blocks so with bonuses & a single ice rig you will have to check it every 15 to 20 minutes & it can tank to ~60k eHP. But it may be more worthwihle just to multibox a ton of retrievers @ 20 million apiece Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á
Jonah Gravenstein Mahatma Cote Temporal Research 1615	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:51:00 - [23] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. Attacking a Mack isn't profitable. What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks. Standard business practice, buy low then create an artificial shortage so that you can drive the price up. An example would be a union buying up all the product of say coal mines, and then picketing the coal mines so that no more coal can be mined. While they control the supply, they control the price, OTEC & it's real world counterpart OPEC do similar things. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid---
Powers Sa GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 333	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:54:00 - [24] - Quote MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do. No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya.... And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction? Lies. All lies. This. After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits. Keep in mind we weren't whining about it.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:56:00 - [25] - Quote But of course. It is never a whine when you're the one whining. It's only a whine when the other side is whining.
Marcus Caspius 78	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:56:00 - [26] - Quote If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lrgYd2Sd3iM/TNLCFtWlIHI/AAAAAAAAAM0/GNU4PtIO__k/s1600/sardines-shark-south-africa-707706-xl.jpg[/quote] Industrial TiDi ftw - rofl Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 354	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:03:00 - [27] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. Attacking a Mack isn't profitable. What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks. So you're saying that picking up horse dung is not actually profitable - but selling it for fertilizer is? I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
Jonah Gravenstein Mahatma Cote Temporal Research 1615	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:03:00 - [28] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: If true here comes the Procuror multi boxers to GALL space that'll makethe 20 box retriever fleets look like sharks in a school of sardines English translation, people will afk mine ice in multiboxed Procurors. The truth is that even if they did, they wouldn't fit tanks, they would fit for yield/cargo and would die to a suicide gank, not to mention that the cargo hold is too small to make it actually viable. I seem to recall at least room for 12 ice blocks so with bonuses & a single ice rig you will have to check it every 15 to 20 minutes & it can tank to ~60k eHP. But it may be more worthwihle just to multibox a ton of retrievers @ 20 million apiece Yes you can tank a Procuror to a decent ehp, but they won't because miners can be extremely lazy. A lot of them still think that yield is better than tank, which is great until they die, then they whine about it. I mine 'roids, in a tanked barge, go out and shipscan some of the barges at the icebelts, at least 50-75% will have no tank or a minimal one, they're relying on the recent buffs to protect them, they'll also be afk. If James decides to extend his glorious crusade to help out the GSF, I as a shareholder in The New Order will gladly assist him. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid---
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 354	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:05:00 - [29] - Quote Powers Sa wrote: MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: NOT POSSIBLE!!! Ganking CAN'T be done in Eve anymore. Mackinaws are INVULNERABLE. Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do. No way man. I've been reading for days and days about "Eve is dying" because of the Mack buff. yaddy ya.... And if...errr... "not profitable".... what would be the errr..... reason..... for.... the.... errr... interdiction? Lies. All lies. This. After all the whinage and crying that suiciding miners is no longer profitable I find it hard to believe that miners are being suicided to increase... profits. Keep in mind we weren't whining about it. I was gonna make the call on this one.... But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic. I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 354	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:06:00 - [30] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. No. So you are taking over NC. space because............ I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.

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