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baltec1
Bat Country
2471
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Posted - 2012.10.15 01:07:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:baltec1 wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.
No. So you are taking over NC. space because............
They attacked us. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
354
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Posted - 2012.10.15 01:13:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:baltec1 wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY.
No. So you are taking over NC. space because............ They attacked us.
I lolled.
I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts.
I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner.
I blamed me for bothering.
I made more money.......... mining.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2471
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Posted - 2012.10.15 01:15:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:
I lolled.
So did we. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.10.15 01:40:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:baltec1 wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:So you are taking over NC. space because............ They attacked us. I lolled.
vince draken admitted he violated otec. he kenw the result of that was an invasion, but "he didn't care".
Touval Lysander wrote:
I was gonna make the call on this one....
But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.
The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about. |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2960
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Posted - 2012.10.15 01:46:00 -
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Interesting. 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.10.15 02:03:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Interesting.
That reminds me, I'm going to ping you on skype. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
356
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Posted - 2012.10.15 02:09:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
I was gonna make the call on this one....
But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.
The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about.
Whining that they can't play solo in an MMORG. Hmmm... Sounds familiar.
They could always errr.... multibox.
I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts.
I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner.
I blamed me for bothering.
I made more money.......... mining.
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captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.10.15 02:12:00 -
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Touval, you are the most cognitively impaired poster in recent memory. Please stop posting. Think of the children. Think of the world they will have to grow up in, filled with your words. Stop posting for their sake. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.10.15 02:23:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
I was gonna make the call on this one....
But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.
The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about. Whining that they can't play solo in an MMORG. Hmmm... Sounds familiar. They could always errr.... multibox.
who's your main? |
Arch Stanton's Neighbour
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
22
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Posted - 2012.10.15 02:33:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:So ganking Macks IS possible AND it's able to be done PROFITABLY. Attacking a Mack isn't profitable. What's profitable is buying up all the supplies at the all-time low, and then attacking to force the price upwards ... then sell those stocks.
And posting about it to try to cause a stampede and cash out. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
28
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Posted - 2012.10.15 02:48:00 -
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Noticed a lot of mack / hulk kills in the ordinary belts around gallente space while on my probing character, so it's not just ice miners.
You'd think after the last patch gave them a barge with an insane tank (skiff) there'd be more miners using that, but you hardly ever see one of those. Sure a well co-ordinated group can take out a skiff if they want to, but I doubt it's worth the effort / cost (especially when there's so many untanked macks / hulks sitting in the same systems).
Can only assume those still dying to ganks are just greedy for maxing out yield / fitting to afk - the gankers are doing the intelligent miners a favour by eliminating the competition. |
Smiknight
The Plebian Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.10.15 03:30:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Not invulnerable, just not cheap to do.
And good on you guys for expending the effort. 
I am what you refer to as a Carebear...I care very much about the future New Eden and Eve and couldn't bear the Chicken Littles destroying that. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
356
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:01:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:Touval, you are the most cognitively impaired poster in recent memory. Please stop posting. Think of the children. Think of the world they will have to grow up in, filled with your words. Stop posting for their sake.
Cognitively impaired only by the degree of how much you disagree with me.
And I have other alts who have and can continue to post with just as much cognitive impairment if you would prefer.
/me swears that 90% of the "oh look, you're dumb" retorts in this forum are by persons sharing a C&P file.
I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts.
I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner.
I blamed me for bothering.
I made more money.......... mining.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
356
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:03:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
I was gonna make the call on this one....
But I'll be danged if I am going to spend the next 5 hours linking the hundreds of Goons and FA "poor ganker", "Eve is DYING" poasts on the topic.
The only difference is now we have to use 2 catalysts. That's not really a big deal. I don't see why anyone would whine about that. The act of solo ganking itself isn't "profitable" anymore if that was what you are talking about. Whining that they can't play solo in an MMORG. Hmmm... Sounds familiar. They could always errr.... multibox. who's your main?
A goon.
Come get me.
I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts.
I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner.
I blamed me for bothering.
I made more money.......... mining.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
676
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:21:00 -
[45] - Quote
Touval Lysander wrote:
I lolled.
Well at least you've proven you have no clue what's going on in nullsec with this post (Hint: the whole thing started with NCdot sieging our tech moons. This is punative.) |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Fatal Ascension
1585
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:29:00 -
[46] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
I lolled.
Well at least you've proven you have no clue what's going on in nullsec with this post (Hint: the whole thing started with NCdot sieging our tech moons. This is punative.)
Confirming.
I was on the defense fleet that night.
I think I got 3 dread kills or something.
He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller.
-Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
337
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:29:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:
A goon.
Come get me.
As a diplomat, I don't like cleaning up my own messes. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.10.15 04:46:00 -
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83, 447 EHP Skiff mining 30 Ice an hr says you might want to just enjoy the cheap fuel. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
356
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:20:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
I lolled.
Well at least you've proven you have no clue what's going on in nullsec with this post (Hint: the whole thing started with NCdot sieging our tech moons. This is punative.)
I lolled at the way baltec made it look serious - I was imagining the deadpan look and because I never take any Goon seriously, when they are, it's like, funny.
Bah. nvm. You guys need to relax a little. You're letting shitz and gigglez get under your skin.
I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts.
I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner.
I blamed me for bothering.
I made more money.......... mining.
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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
165
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:13:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:Touval, you are the most cognitively impaired poster in recent memory. Please stop posting.
To his credit he has the presence of mind to post with a noob alt. This shows some awareness of his own shortfalls.  |
Josef Djugashvilis
683
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:59:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Would appear Goonswarm is back to manipulating the Oxygen Isotope market (good on them, by the way.) Mackinaw killmails are rolling in. Volume the last two days has been nearly triple the norm. And prices are 1.5x higher than they were.
Prepare. Stockpile. Invest.
Will the prices head upwards to 1400 ISK per unit, as they did last interdiction?
I thought that with the miner buff, these ships were supposed to be more or less ungankable?
Nice to see that some folk are adapting instead of just whinging on the forums.
Good for the goons.
This is not a signature. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9885
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:04:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I thought that with the miner buff, these ships were supposed to be more or less ungankable? No, just unprofitable to gank. And they are.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Xolve
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
1171
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:07:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:I seem to recall at least room for 12 ice blocks so with bonuses & a single ice rig you will have to check it every 15 to 20 minutes & it can tank to ~60k eHP. But it may be more worthwihle just to multibox a ton of retrievers @ 20 million apiece
Please continue telling all of us about Effective Hit Points vs. Alpha.
While it's not necessarily profitable, killing Mackinaws tanked vs. Kinetic/Thermal (Hybrids) are still dying to two Catalysts. Ganking miners is always 'profitable' the payments however do not come in 'ISK' form, but in the form of sweet, sweet delicious tears.
Powers Sa wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
A goon.
Come get me.
As a diplomat, I don't like cleaning up my own messes.
Requesting permission to shoot blues (everyday).
Will mail Vile Rate the details.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Josef Djugashvilis
683
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I thought that with the miner buff, these ships were supposed to be more or less ungankable? No, just unprofitable to gank. And they are.
Working as CCP intended then
This is not a signature. |
Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings
Free 2 Play
5
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:33:00 -
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Xolve wrote:
Please continue telling all of us about Effective Hit Points vs. Alpha.
You want to argue semantics? Really? How boring...but ok :)
he was probably just using the definition of Effective Hit Points given on goonwiki, as a means of using your own lingo to communicate with you :
"One is to have a huge hit point buffer that will take a long time to be chewed through, and the other is to repair more damage than you're taking. The more dps you expect to encounter, the better the buffer method is. For large ships, the single best module to fit to increase effective hit points is a damage control, preferably T2."
He's really very considerate, you see. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
621
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Posted - 2012.10.15 07:35:00 -
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some people never learn , as was predicted when the mining barges rebalance came out
If people AFK mine in their unprotected mack , that is up to them , nobody is to blame only the AFK miner
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Tarassse
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.10.15 14:02:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:some people never learn , as was predicted when the mining barges rebalance came out
If people AFK mine in their unprotected mack , that is up to them , nobody is to blame only the AFK miner
So let me get this straight.
Before the mining barges' improvements, it was the miners' fault if they were suicide-ganked, because they did not tank their ship. I can understand that and agree.
Now, after they had an improvement on their ships to tank better, and even if the rigs,low/med slots are used to tank, it is their fault if they die, because they mine AFK? Do note that whether their mackinaw is tanked or not, it still dies to 2 catalysts in 0.6.
Have you ever mined? Even if you begin doing it while being completely awake, it is sooooo boring that you'll end up falling asleep anyway.
The barge buff was not that necessary. The mining profession just needed to be less boring to entertain miners and force them to stay awake in front of their screen. |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
764
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Posted - 2012.10.15 14:07:00 -
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Tarassse wrote:Have you ever mined? Even if you begin doing it while being completely awake, it is sooooo boring that you'll end up falling asleep anyway.
Solution: Stop mining and do something else.
Nothing Found |
Robert De'Arneth
122
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Posted - 2012.10.15 14:12:00 -
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Love them or hate them you have to love how the the goons keep making people sit up and take notice. I applaud their use of game mechanics and hope they make all prices go up!!!
You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
baltec1
Bat Country
2481
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Posted - 2012.10.15 15:29:00 -
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Tarassse wrote:pussnheels wrote:some people never learn , as was predicted when the mining barges rebalance came out
If people AFK mine in their unprotected mack , that is up to them , nobody is to blame only the AFK miner So let me get this straight. Before the mining barges' improvements, it was the miners' fault if they were suicide-ganked, because they did not tank their ship. I can understand that and agree. Now, after they had an improvement on their ships to tank better, and even if the rigs,low/med slots are used to tank, it is their fault if they die, because they mine AFK? Do note that whether their mackinaw is tanked or not, it still dies to 2 catalysts in 0.6. Have you ever mined? Even if you begin doing it while being completely awake, it is sooooo boring that you'll end up falling asleep anyway. The barge buff was not that necessary. The mining profession just needed to be less boring to entertain miners and force them to stay awake in front of their screen.
Just pointing out. They still dont tank their ships. |
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