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captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
132
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:15:00 -
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Oh man, 100 dps |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1638
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:24:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:Oh man, 100 dps
for a barge, its respectable, especially a t1 barge 
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum
-á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
391
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Posted - 2012.10.17 02:27:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:captain foivos wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:And really, she got in on the KM, even a "Concord" mail is a little tick against the ganker and a little tick for the gankee. It's wonderful stuff. Killboard's green, go go go, amirite? I couldn't find a single tornado death, in highsec, from Concord, in the CFC, anywhere on the killboards. Anywhere. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction by finding these tornadoes Marlona speaks of? Watch as Touval Lysander suddenly goes silent on this particular topic.
You STILL posting on your 0.0 alt and not on your highsec FW, indy, mining alt.
In that case, I'll show the respect you desire deserve.
bite me.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
391
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Posted - 2012.10.17 02:37:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:
Why bother ganking for profit?
Did not bother to read rest of post, answer is because profit can be made while ganking.
The question was more why bother ganking for profit when you know profit is not there to be made.
Why - because It's easier to whine about it than actually do a gank that DOES have profit or just cough up and say it's fun.
Nope, it's gotta be a miner apparently (they want it solo and easymode). The only thing they haven't asked for yet is which miner, what belt and what time they would like him to be there.
But give it time. That's probably another thread when they finally work out they're just blowing hot air.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.10.17 05:33:00 -
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Let me state this again for those that tend to spread misinformation.
A max yield fit Mack can be ganked in high sec by a single cat destroyer profitably.
And most Macks are max yield fit. I see no problem with this. Nothing needs to be changed.
Just quit complaining and get out there and gank them. If your gank fails it is because you are not doing the gank right.
Herr Hammer Draken
"The Amarr Prophet" |
Random McNally
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.10.17 15:58:00 -
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Vanyr Andrard wrote:Random McNally wrote:Sorry, I thought this was another "mining ships are OP/why am I still getting ganked" thread.
Instead, it's a "swallow a dictionary and activate the double talk generator" thread.
Stupid me. You seem to be laboring under a misapprehension, I would actually like it if Baltec's changes were implemented. I'm attempting to reason why there's not much chance CCP would ever do that. I enjoy mining, but I'm in a wormhole so personally Baltec's proposed solution is optimal for me. If you think I've swallowed a dictonary and am double talking, by all means, supply a better explanation for the way things are.
Perhaps. Wouldn't be the first time that I've misinterpreted what someone has said. Most likely will not be the last.
However, I've read through your posts on this thread several times trying to figure out just what the heck you are saying.
I'm fairly certain that I have not seen the statement.....
Quote:there's not much chance CCP would ever do that
save in your last post.
How about just saying "I don't think there's much of a chance that CCP would ever do that" or is it your goal to clearly set yourself above the unwashed illiterate masses. Thank you for shutting off the double talk generator and regurgitating the dictionary.
Carry on. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
215
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:37:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Let me state this again for those that tend to spread misinformation.
A max yield fit Mack can be ganked in high sec by a single cat destroyer profitably.
And most Macks are max yield fit. I see no problem with this. Nothing needs to be changed.
Just quit complaining and get out there and gank them. If your gank fails it is because you are not doing the gank right.
This is a falsehood, those aren't appreciated here maybe you should go post on en24.
Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Imports Plus
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.10.17 17:16:00 -
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I'm just gonna leave this right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PVvxwpMCyPk
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9968
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Posted - 2012.10.17 17:28:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Let me state this again for those that tend to spread misinformation.
A max yield fit Mack can be ganked in high sec by a single cat destroyer profitably. A 1k DPS destroyer would be quite costly to employ in a suicide gank, so no, not really.
Or, wellGǪ yes, if you want to spread misinformation, saying that they can be ganked is a good one to start with.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Lord Zim
1782
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Posted - 2012.10.17 17:35:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:You STILL posting on your 0.0 alt and not on your highsec FW, indy, mining alt.
Yes, I am. And?
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
339
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:18:00 -
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"My hands are shakin'-- my hands are shakin'! But I'm still shootin'! An' I'm still gettin' headshots! It's like, boom! Headshot! Boom! Headshot." - FPS Doug |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
927
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:23:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
I'm not a highsec ganker.... and I'll admit I occasionally mine in highsec on my indy alt....
It's 100% about risk vs reward. I fit a decent tank on my exhumer, and have never lost it despite half a dozen attempts on it (although I definitely would have if I didn't tank it!). If you can mine safely, without tanking it... good for you....
If you really accept the risk when NOT tanking your ship, then you won't whine and cry and complain about OP suicide gankers if you are ganked, because you'll realize it was your choices that enabled them to gank you!
Yup. My point exactly. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
927
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:25:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:
Nope, it's gotta be a miner apparently (they want it solo and easymode). The only thing they haven't asked for yet is which miner, what belt and what time they would like him to be there.
.....or something like that Star Trek:OS episode where they have a fake 'war' and people simply voluntarily step into a 'disintegration machine'.  |
Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings
Free 2 Play
5
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:34:00 -
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Random McNally wrote:
How about just saying "I don't think there's much of a chance that CCP would ever do that" or is it your goal to clearly set yourself above the unwashed illiterate masses. Thank you for shutting off the double talk generator and regurgitating the dictionary.
Post #166 in this thread, I used 'CCP' five times, explaining their actions. I'm sorry if that constitutes 'double talk' in your books, but it seemed pretty dang clear to me. Perhaps it's time for you to swallow the dictionary I just regurgitated?
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Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2012.10.18 08:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Let me state this again for those that tend to spread misinformation.
A max yield fit Mack can be ganked in high sec by a single cat destroyer profitably. A 1k DPS destroyer would be quite costly to employ in a suicide gank, so no, not really. Or, wellGǪ yes, if you want to spread misinformation, saying that they can be ganked is a good one to start with.
Nope it only takes 600dps to kill a max yield Mack in high sec. So yes really. Or you are doing it wrong.
Herr Hammer Draken
"The Amarr Prophet" |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2012.10.18 08:25:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Let me state this again for those that tend to spread misinformation.
A max yield fit Mack can be ganked in high sec by a single cat destroyer profitably.
And most Macks are max yield fit. I see no problem with this. Nothing needs to be changed.
Just quit complaining and get out there and gank them. If your gank fails it is because you are not doing the gank right. This is a falsehood, those aren't appreciated here maybe you should go post on en24.
Its you that posts the false hoods.
Herr Hammer Draken
"The Amarr Prophet" |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9983
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:17:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Nope it only takes 600dps to kill a max yield Mack in high sec. SoGǪ how much damage would said destroyer be able to deliver in, say, 20 seconds?
I sure hope it's more than 20GÇô25kGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1374
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Nope it only takes 600dps to kill a max yield Mack in high sec. SoGǪ how much damage would said destroyer be able to deliver in, say, 20 seconds? I sure hope it's more than 20GÇô25kGǪ
This Mackinaw was killed by 2 Catalysts. The Mackinaw took a total of 8326 damage.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14907709
Caldari Militia |
Lord Zim
1791
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:50:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Nope it only takes 600dps to kill a max yield Mack in high sec. SoGǪ how much damage would said destroyer be able to deliver in, say, 20 seconds? I sure hope it's more than 20GÇô25kGǪ This Mackinaw was killed by 2 Catalysts. The Mackinaw took a total of 8326 damage. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14907709
That's raw HP, not EHP. Add resists calculations to that figure.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9983
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:54:00 -
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So two, not one, and we're looking at a historically inaccurate measurement of HP rather than EHP and end up ~20% short of full HP. That would give us a guesstimated EHP of maybe 16-18k, which would explain why two of them were needed.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
4936
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Posted - 2012.10.18 09:55:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Nope it only takes 600dps to kill a max yield Mack in high sec. SoGǪ how much damage would said destroyer be able to deliver in, say, 20 seconds? I sure hope it's more than 20GÇô25kGǪ This Mackinaw was killed by 2 Catalysts. The Mackinaw took a total of 8326 damage. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14907709
Let me tell you about the difference between "EHP" and "actual hit points".
Hint: Macks dont have 0% resists.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1374
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:09:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:Nope it only takes 600dps to kill a max yield Mack in high sec. SoGǪ how much damage would said destroyer be able to deliver in, say, 20 seconds? I sure hope it's more than 20GÇô25kGǪ This Mackinaw was killed by 2 Catalysts. The Mackinaw took a total of 8326 damage. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14907709 Let me tell you about the difference between "EHP" and "actual hit points". Hint: Macks dont have 0% resists.
I don't know, man. All I know is that Effective HP are not actual HP. And that the killmail says total damage taken. If that's not what actually happened, then boo on the killmail system.
I never argued that one catalyst could take out an untanked Mackinaw. But if two can, then it's certainly not all doom and gloom (as I expected) in the miner ganking department.
All CCP has to do is start creating deadspace mining mods, and the yield junkies will start equipping it, and miner ganking becomes profitable again.
If you have the URL to the MiniLuv killboard, you can go check out a good 40-50 Macks and Retrievers ganked over the last two days. It's interesting going through the kills. Miners are dumb.
Caldari Militia |
baltec1
Bat Country
2489
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Posted - 2012.10.18 10:54:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:
I don't know, man. All I know is that Effective HP are not actual HP. And that the killmail says total damage taken. If that's not what actually happened, then boo on the killmail system.
Killmails are horrid for giving amounts tanked and damage delt. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9983
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Posted - 2012.10.18 11:07:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:I don't know, man. All I know is that Effective HP are not actual HP. And that the killmail says total damage taken. If that's not what actually happened, then boo on the killmail system. It is probably close to what happened, although kill mails have traditionally been awful at reporting the right numbersGǪ
GǪbut even then, those GÇ£right numbersGÇ¥ aren't telling the full story. Yes, the total damage the Mack took was probably in the 9k region, because that's how much damage a low-skilled Mack can take before it explodes. The question is how much damage output is required to deliver all that damage, and that's where the EHP comes in. The kill mail simply records how many HP the ship has lost during the fight GÇö it does not record how much damage (counted in EHP) the attacker has thrown his way.
For a full-yield, semi-tanked Mack, you need to deliver some 20GÇô25k damage (depending on ammo) to chip away the 10GÇô11k hit points the ship has. It's the latter number that will be reported on the kill mail; it's the former number that determines whether you'll survive any given attack.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1376
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:For a full-yield, semi-tanked Mack, you need to deliver some 20GÇô25k damage (depending on ammo) to chip away the 10GÇô11k hit points the ship has. It's the latter number that will be reported on the kill mail; it's the former number that determines whether you'll survive any given attack.
I understand now. Thanks.
Caldari Militia |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
932
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:51:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:
If you have the URL to the MiniLuv killboard, you can go check out a good 40-50 Macks and Retrievers ganked over the last two days. It's interesting going through the kills. Miners are dumb.
That's the way to go. Keep up the positive attitude.  |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1376
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:
If you have the URL to the MiniLuv killboard, you can go check out a good 40-50 Macks and Retrievers ganked over the last two days. It's interesting going through the kills. Miners are dumb.
That's the way to go. Keep up the positive attitude. It's great that they're dumb, though.
Caldari Militia |
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
445
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:04:00 -
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Why someone would use a Mack in High-sec instead of a Retriever or Covetor I will never know.
The Mack isn't the best at ICE mining anymore.
No Real loss there.
Makes me wonder what the threshold is before people start mining Faction Ice for profit in Null though.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
932
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:11:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:
If you have the URL to the MiniLuv killboard, you can go check out a good 40-50 Macks and Retrievers ganked over the last two days. It's interesting going through the kills. Miners are dumb.
That's the way to go. Keep up the positive attitude. It's great that they're dumb, though.
Being insta-targeted, scrammed into IMMOBILITY and popped within 10 seconds is 'dumb' ? How so ? |
baltec1
Bat Country
2489
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:15:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Being insta-targeted, scrammed into IMMOBILITY and popped within 10 seconds is 'dumb' ? How so ?
They did nothing to protect themselves. |
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