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Myxx
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
625
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:15:00 -
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right click asteroid: Set orbit 7-10km.
lol as bumpers fail at predicting trajectory of your orbit correctly |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1506
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:15:00 -
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There's literally thousands of single-player games you guys can try out if you don't want to interact with other players.
primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:16:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:There's literally thousands of single-player games you guys can try out if you don't want to interact with other players.
They want to interact, that's why people mine together and "afk" mine. They mine and talk, interact, and enjoy each other. But no one wants to interact with belligerent undesirables interfering with customer game play. :) |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1507
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:17:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone
They are bothering the Guardian and Protector of high sec: James 315 and the New Order with their decadent ways.
primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1690
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:17:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone. It's ok though, high sec will be made safer soon, and the undesirables will be pushed out :)
Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.
Please feel free to place bounties on the bumpers btw, then you can set your drones on them and watch your mining vessel explode in a hilarious fashion when Concord turns up to deal their unique brand of instapwn.
The Roids and Ice belong to whoever can control the mining of them, currently that would be the bumpers & in the case of Gallente Ice belts GSF, both of whom can control the mining by moving the miners out of range or exploding them.
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum
-á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2639
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:19:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:No More Heroes wrote:There's literally thousands of single-player games you guys can try out if you don't want to interact with other players. They want to interact, that's why people mine together and "afk" mine. They mine and talk, interact, and enjoy each other. But no one wants to interact with belligerent undesirables interfering with customer game play. :)
If they are AFK they aren't interacting with anyone.
If they are at their keyboard and actively chatting they are also able to take intelligent action to counter THE OTHER PAYING CUSTOMERS activities.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:21:00 -
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*yawn* Typical undesirable arguments. It's ok, new changes will soon be made my fellow miners, and the undesirables will be forced away :) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2639
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:22:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:*yawn* Typical undesirable arguments. It's ok, new changes will soon be made my fellow miners, and the undesirables will be forced away :)
In the eyes of CCP, both types of players are "desirable", and that's really what counts in the end. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
6882
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:23:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.
yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.
Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2639
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:24:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game. yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.
Not according to the EULA and Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up to pay and play.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:24:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game. yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.
This. Miners; Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style! |
Alice Saki
14852
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:25:00 -
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I love bumping an Orca and then Watching the 20 Mach/Hulks follow it till they are out of Roid range :P
Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused.
I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
103
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:25:00 -
[43] - Quote
So is Halaima the only system in the cluster where mining is possible? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2639
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:28:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game. yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone. This. Miners; Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style!
So "defending" your style of game play is to encourage other to quit rather than actually play the game and overcome the obstacles in their path. 
I'm glad you weren't on my track team back in high school. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1691
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:30:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:*yawn* Typical undesirable arguments. It's ok, new changes will soon be made my fellow miners, and the undesirables will be forced away :)
I would rather have a highsec with the so-called undesirables running around than some fluffy la-la land where the only danger and content comes from PvE. Bear in mind that I'm primarily a PvE player myself (a solo corp tax dodging one at that), the chance of getting suicide ganked, baited by ninja looters, bumped off rocks or getting skinned on the market for a few hundred million by my competitors is what makes life interesting.
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
This. Miners; Vote with your wallets! I urge you to take the most direct action you can to defend YOUR game play, YOUR free time, and YOUR style!
Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum
-á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2639
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:32:00 -
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Quote:I would rather have a highsec with the so-called undesirables running around than some fluffy la-la land where the only danger and content comes from PvE. Bear in mind that I'm primarily a PvE player myself (a solo corp tax dodging one at that), the chance of getting suicide ganked, baited by ninja looters, bumped off rocks or getting skinned on the market for a few hundred million by my competitors is what makes life interesting.
Apparently some people think you are playing "EvE the Mining Simulator" incorrectly.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1692
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:36:00 -
[47] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:I would rather have a highsec with the so-called undesirables running around than some fluffy la-la land where the only danger and content comes from PvE. Bear in mind that I'm primarily a PvE player myself (a solo corp tax dodging one at that), the chance of getting suicide ganked, baited by ninja looters, bumped off rocks or getting skinned on the market for a few hundred million by my competitors is what makes life interesting. Apparently some people think you are playing "EvE the Mining Simulator" incorrectly. Rest assured, most of the player base is in agreement with you.
Oh noes, I must indulge in some self flagellation and repent of my sins 
nah bugger it, I'm breaking out the stabber and annoying the mindless competition
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum
-á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Random McNally
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:38:00 -
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Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks
Are you serious?
This is not WOW.
I can only hope you troll.
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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:48:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing.
Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically. |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:51:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing. Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically.
We only need cruisers anyway. Cruisers are best for bumps
It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways:
He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
Sad Bro
the mittani sends his regards
2
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:56:00 -
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Won't anyone think about the asteroids? One day asteroids are going to stop appearing from thin air and then what will we do? We are a society dependent on minerals and when the asteroids are gone, so too will be the minerals. We must consider alternative energy solutions. Quickly, CCP, implement corn farming in PI so I can refine T2 ethanol. |
MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
577
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:56:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing. Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically. We only need cruisers anyway. Cruisers are best for bumps
I prefer a WMD Typhoon myself. After Impact I have 4 Hurricanes, which on the next impact becomes 16 Stabbers, next impact it is 64 Breachers, and the final impact 256 tiny Veldspar asteroids which you then duct tape back together in to another Typhoon.
If I tried to make a type of coffee that made all of you happy, and you rated it, the group score for it would be about 60 out of 100. Break into 3 or 4 coffee clusters, and made coffee just for each cluster, the scores would go from 60 to 78. The difference between coffee at 60 and coffee at 78 is a difference between coffee that makes you wince or makes you happy. |
Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:58:00 -
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Not afk mining, doing laps around the item being mined does not work and W.O.W.?
My issue is not with the act of bumping but not being able to respond in a way other than pay or leave. To me this has been exploited enough and needs to be fixed. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1692
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:58:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Please feel free to do so, once all the afk & carebear whiners are gone, the mineral prices may make full time mining actually worth doing. Enjoy not affording anything more than a battle cruiser realistically.
It doesn't work like that, it's called supply and demand, if the demand is there people will provide the supply and probably not whine as much because the replacements will come from the ranks that accept that the game is not a fluffy la-la land where everything is soft and cuddly.
Zkaor wrote:Not afk mining, doing laps around the item being mined does not work and W.O.W.?
My issue is not with the act of bumping but not being able to respond in a way other than pay or leave. To me this has been exploited enough and needs to be fixed.
Extortion Rackets have been going for as long as mankind has been capable of thinking, I think that's it's a pretty safe bet that the number of games that are freeform enough to allow the use of them can be counted on one hand, you're playing one of them. There's nothing to stop you enforcing your will on others, apart from the lack of will & the charisma to do so.
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum
-á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Mire Stoude
Capital Industries Research And Development
Fidelas Constans
10
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:59:00 -
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Yah, lets make bumping give you kill rights, that can't backfire in any way at all! Also, how many miners would actually use those kill rights to do anything about getting bumped? ... Oh, the same people who shot at can flippers. |
Elinarien
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:00:00 -
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Just have an alt in a gank-fit catalyst standing by. That'll surprise the bumber & no doubt harvest some very tasty tears. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
367
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:04:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks Pay the fee, it's 10m isk to afk to your little hearts content. Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group?
Emergent gameplay.
You'll be able to put bounties on the bumpers, and learn to orbit? |
Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
542
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:06:00 -
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For anyone curious as to what's behind this thread:
http://www.minerbumping.com/ |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
3019
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:06:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Don't care. Let them mine in high sec. James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.
Is this directed at me? If so, I have a few questions.
1. In what way am I an "undesirable"?
2. Why is your opinion about my desirability more important than others'?
3. Why should I get a ban if I do not violate the EULA?
4. How am I interrupting others' game play by improving it?
5. Is it "game play" if they're AFK?
Thanks!
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
1051
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:06:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks Pay the fee, it's 10m isk to afk to your little hearts content. Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group? Because that group has the ability and desire to disrupt that resource center. I don't make a thread on EVE-O whenever a roaming gang comes through my ratting system and disrupts my resource center, I adapt and DEAL WITH IT.
Gankers complained about barge changes making highsec safer. Miners responded telling gankers to adapt. Gankers adapt, miners come crying.
James 315 is my hero.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
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