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Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:30:00 -
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Maybe not velicoty related but more the distace the bumpee was moved ?? I would assume something can be programmed to only happen (flg bumper) if a mining laser or whatever is active on a given ship. y/n ? idk. |

Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:34:00 -
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[quote=Destiny Corrupted]Ah, so this thread finally makes an appearance.
I like (well, actually I hate) how all of my predictions regarding high-sec safety balancing have come true. First it was insurance, then wars, then it was barge EHP, then it was ganking by creating the suspect flag, and now it will be bumping. This follows a very logical progression of risk nerfs that CCP is dead-set on following.
What is this "suspect flag" u speak of ?
Edit: found it http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73446 |

Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:45:00 -
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Zkaor wrote:James 315 wrote:Zkaor wrote:To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ? To increase risk in highsec for me, you must also increase risk in highsec for everyone else, no? Nerf Concord and you'll have risk all around.  But allow a miner to retalaite without Concord, that u r against?
No reply ?? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:55:00 -
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Zkaor wrote:Maybe not velicoty related but more the distace the bumpee was moved ?? I would assume something can be programmed to only happen (flg bumper) if a mining laser or whatever is active on a given ship. y/n ? idk. Why not just have CCP magic ore into your holds. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:15:00 -
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^ you forgot to read the previous posts |

Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1698
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:17:00 -
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Zkaor wrote:A 2 man corp war dec New Order ? Lay off the pipe man.
James is in a one man corp, his supporters and the bumpers are in various other corps so would not be able to interfere, man up. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:18:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Zkaor wrote:A 2 man corp war dec New Order ? Lay off the pipe man. James is in a one man corp, his supporters and the bumpers are in various other corps so would not be able to interfere, man up. Wardeccing a one man corp with a 2 man corp?
Blobbers. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Eclipse Rhade
Blades of the Exiled Angel
0
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:19:00 -
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Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks
Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers? |

Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:21:00 -
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You sure did! Allow me to explain :)
The bumpers of the new order don't join the same corp, so that it is impossible to wardec them all.
If you decide just to wardec the ones bumping you the most, some are in dreddit and GS, and the cost to wardec those is fairly high for a small corp.
Many of the rest are in 1 man corps, and let it be known that if you pay for a wardec, they'll jump back to an NPC corp, which they can still bump from.
A few are in neither of this conditions, like turborg above; if you're lucky enough to want to wardec only one bumper, and that's the bumper you want to wardec, then you are good to go--except the rest of the bumpers can still bump you, so even in that small % case, it's still only a very partial solution. Your only full solution is to gank the ship of the bumper, which is both cheaper than a mining ship and much more fitting room to fit tank, or work out a nonviolent solution.[/quote]
Found out, and this ^ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:24:00 -
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Eclipse Rhade wrote:Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers? http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/08/the-bumped-leading-bumped.html Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:25:00 -
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Eclipse Rhade wrote:Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers?
I have personally been bumped (iirc) 15-20k several times. I am sure it can be further. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5317
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:30:00 -
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purge the carebears and save this game before it's too late This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Zkaor
HATRON 4
1
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:33:00 -
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LOL, nice rug on that head (says the bald guy). |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5317
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:34:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.
miners are such transparent hypocrites yet they can't see it themselves
nothing but botters who don't give a flying **** about the health of the game yet demand that they be able to screw the game up in peace This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1698
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:38:00 -
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Eclipse Rhade wrote:Zkaor wrote:Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.
P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers?
You'll just get bumped off the ice, the rebound is quite something. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5318
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:55:00 -
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the solution is to join The New Order
you do not need to contact anyone, simply buy yourself a Stabber Fleet Issue and shoehorn in a "Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive" and bump the nearest ice miner today This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

None ofthe Above
351
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:55:00 -
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Am I the only one wondering if there is going to be a James 514 that does dust-bunny-bumping? EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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Tesal
47
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:05:00 -
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Bumpers live for threads like this. Tears, tears and more tears. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:13:00 -
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Tesal wrote:Bumpers live for threads like this. Tears, tears and more tears. Haha. Well they have been well nourished, then. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
0
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:17:00 -
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i just have 3 things to say about this.
1) This whole situation is amazing
2) James315 for CSM chairman!
3) I like pie |

Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1700
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:24:00 -
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The CandyGirl wrote:i just have 3 things to say about this.
1) This whole situation is amazing
2) James315 for CSM chairman!
3) I like pie
God can you imagine the tears if we got James315 onto the CSM? we could refill the Aral Sea & still have enough left over to run desalination plants for centuries to come. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |

Vanyr Andrard
Foo Holdings Free 2 Play
16
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zkaor wrote:Maybe not velicoty related but more the distace the bumpee was moved ?? I would assume something can be programmed to only happen (flg bumper) if a mining laser or whatever is active on a given ship. y/n ? idk. Why not just have CCP magic ore into your holds.
Amusingly, this is how mining lasers already work. You shoot the asteroid with an orange laser, and CCP magics ore into your hold. If you use T2 strips, then a little icelandic wizard appears every so often and speeds up the process. You didn't know? |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
23
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:40:00 -
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I have an excellent idea to stop James 315, CCP gives him a holy corp from which he can never leave and everyone is abel to war dec. Suddenly we get the answer as to weather bumping should be considered a war offense or not. (Because seriously I heard a war started over the usage of mate, and if true means he should be free to be wardecced for it)
Or better wars follow you for the duration of the war dec. wars are good for one week and must then wait a week.
Does mass in a cargohold affect the ship? I havent found it to personally. If yes then get CCP to have ore be like neutronium. Sure you wont be aligning very soon but then you cant be bumped. |

None ofthe Above
351
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:46:00 -
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As a note of clarification:
What James 315 is doing was considered bannable griefing in the past::
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Griefing&action=historysubmit&diff=55598&oldid=41295
But is not now. EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
3032
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:54:00 -
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Well, yes and no. Even back then, the Wiki says it was only griefing when used "outside of a fight". But the New Order only bumps to fight for what's right, to fight for a better highsec. So even back then it would have been allowed. 
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
23
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:57:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Well, yes and no. Even back then, the Wiki says it was only griefing when used "outside of a fight". But the New Order only bumps to fight for what's right, to fight for a better highsec. So even back then it would have been allowed.  If you want to fight come to Ravarath and start shooting my retriever. Otherwise you have no fight and thus can not claim exception. |

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
3032
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Posted - 2012.10.25 03:00:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:James 315 wrote:Well, yes and no. Even back then, the Wiki says it was only griefing when used "outside of a fight". But the New Order only bumps to fight for what's right, to fight for a better highsec. So even back then it would have been allowed.  If you want to fight come to Ravarath and start shooting my retriever. Otherwise you have no fight and thus can not claim exception. I'd be more than happy to take you up on your offer. So which of the three Tests will you be invoking? 
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
716
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Posted - 2012.10.25 03:01:00 -
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Samwise Everquest wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:...one word: collisions... problem solved.  I agree, warping to zero on ship or bumping should result in both ships taking damage as well as your cargo getting rearranged. Also the Incursus should be able to ram their spear into someone's hull.
Brb training Gallente. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
1438
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Posted - 2012.10.25 03:03:00 -
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How you people manage to sit and share all your anguishing ordeal with us is just beyond me. I salute you, fine brave men and women, who post on our family friendly forum rather than putting some ice on that butthurt.
Personally, I would seek medical help if any part of my body started sizzling. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
481
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Posted - 2012.10.25 03:03:00 -
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Andski wrote:purge the carebears and save this game before it's too late Who gonna do that? You?
Besides, take the bears out, wat you gonna do wid yer time man? We da only enemee you got left in da game.
well. 'cept maybe some testies soon. hehehehe.... "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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