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Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:19:00 - [151] - Quote I have no problem with being bumped, not able to retaliate without being Concorded is what I have issue with. Which is a complete contradiction of what 315 proclaims he wants, more risk in hi-sec.
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 215	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:21:00 - [152] - Quote Zkaor wrote: I have no problem with being bumped, not able to retaliate without being Concorded is what I have issue with. Which is a complete contradiction of what 315 proclaims he wants, more risk in hi-sec. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wars
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:22:00 - [153] - Quote Wars do not add risk to high-sec, allowing miners to defend does.
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 215	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:24:00 - [154] - Quote Zkaor wrote: Wars do not add risk to high-sec, allowing miners to defend does. I don't get it... "I want to retaliate without concord intervention!" --> wars "I don't wanna war!" Did I miss something?
Korsiri Mousetrap Building Inc. 86	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:25:00 - [155] - Quote Just wanted to say: collisions would be funny ^_^ but yeah, not a real need here guys - move along.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1611	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:27:00 - [156] - Quote BeanBagKing wrote: Zkaor wrote: Wars do not add risk to high-sec, allowing miners to defend does. I don't get it... "I want to retaliate without concord intervention!" --> wars "I don't wanna war!" Did I miss something? Hahahaha. But wait, there's something special that happens when you try to start a war on him. Thanks, high-sec war mechanics, we love you for bringing pvp into our lives ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:28:00 - [157] - Quote A 2 man corp war dec New Order ? Lay off the pipe man.
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:31:00 - [158] - Quote 315 and his sheep want more risk in hi-sec....good, so do I, but he does not want it for them (New Order). He makes to much isk with no risk to him at all.
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 1587	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:32:00 - [159] - Quote Just quit the game miners and sit back and watch all those people who despised you cry on the forums because it cost half a billion for a Rifter. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 215	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:33:00 - [160] - Quote Zkaor wrote: A 2 man corp war dec New Order ? Lay off the pipe man. So get your friends, join a bigger corp, get mercs to wardec him, hire other people... Oh wait, I get it now, you're not interested in any of this because you don't actually want a fair fight. When you say you don't want concord intervening, what you actually mean is you don't want concord intervening in ways that are inconvenient to you. You want to be able to shoot him without him being able to shoot back, because lets face it, even if it was one on one, he would rip your mining ship apart with his pvp skills and ship. What you want is to have the game mechanics changed to cater to your needs because without something put into place to hold your hand, you're too weak willed and weak minded to fight back or come up with something on your own. Nevermind, sorry for the confusion, I guess I can't help, carry on.
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1520	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:36:00 - [161] - Quote Zkaor wrote: I have no problem with being bumped, not able to retaliate without being Concorded is what I have issue with. Which is a complete contradiction of what 315 proclaims he wants, more risk in hi-sec. Concord is a minor annoyance and only something you make adjustments for. Conflict is the driver of industry and economics in Eve Online. It is good and it is right. Yes even in high sec conflict rages. You guys compete for belts and spots to place your pos. You fight with market orders and implants and highly optimized skill queues and fleet boosters to suck more ore than the next guy and get your goods to market first. The time has come to embrace your inner warrior and fight for whats rightfully yours. You can possess something in this game only if you can take it and hold it from another. Load up a Catalyst, PM me for a fit and some tactics, and I will show you how to throw off your shackles, rise up, and smack the next person who bumps you in the face. Your Eve career will never be the same. primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up?
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:36:00 - [162] - Quote Seriously, lay off the pipe. I would like a good one on one fight, I own more than a Exhumer, but I cannot because I will get Concorded.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 1424	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:40:00 - [163] - Quote Ah, so this thread finally makes an appearance. As much as I love what James does, and as much as I hate to say it, you guys realize that this is exactly what's going to happen next year, right? This is the next "big thing" that's going to be whined about. I like (well, actually I hate) how all of my predictions regarding high-sec safety balancing have come true. First it was insurance, then wars, then it was barge EHP, then it was ganking by creating the suspect flag, and now it will be bumping. This follows a very logical progression of risk nerfs that CCP is dead-set on following. CCP absolutely will address this, and it's quite easy for them to do so. All they have to do is increase barge mass while decreasing the inertia modifier, under some pretense like "barges are very large and bulky due to all of their storage capacity." Bam, barges now have capital kinematic attributes. And the best part is, we're probably going to see a dev comment in this thread how they won't do something like that, but watch them do it anyway right around summer. So, now that we don't have ganking insurance, wars, ganking, theft, and bumping, what will be next? Two things are likely to take the crown by this time next year, and they are hauler EHP and the good old awox. It will happen. I don't think anyone here is ignorant enough to claim otherwise, despite not wanting to out of sheer disgust. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1520	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:40:00 - [164] - Quote Zkaor wrote: Seriously, lay off the pipe. I would like a good one on one fight, I own more than a Exhumer, but I cannot because I will get Concorded. That fear- the fear of being Concorded is paralyzing you. That fear holds thousands of players in bondage. Once you overcome that fear..this game is limitless. primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up?
Vanyr Andrard Foo Holdings Free 2 Play 15	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:45:00 - [165] - Quote BeanBagKing wrote: Zkaor wrote: Wars do not add risk to high-sec, allowing miners to defend does. I don't get it... "I want to retaliate without concord intervention!" --> wars "I don't wanna war!" Did I miss something? You sure did! Allow me to explain :) The bumpers of the new order don't join the same corp, so that it is impossible to wardec them all. If you decide just to wardec the ones bumping you the most, some are in dreddit and GS, and the cost to wardec those is fairly high for a small corp. Many of the rest are in 1 man corps, and let it be known that if you pay for a wardec, they'll jump back to an NPC corp, which they can still bump from. A few are in neither of this conditions, like turborg above; if you're lucky enough to want to wardec only one bumper, and that's the bumper you want to wardec, then you are good to go--except the rest of the bumpers can still bump you, so even in that small % case, it's still only a very partial solution. Your only full solution is to gank the ship of the bumper, which is both cheaper than a mining ship and much more fitting room to fit tank, or work out a nonviolent solution.
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 481	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:55:00 - [166] - Quote Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: Inb4 James315 response. Dang. For a while there I thought OP was another James 146 alt? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Miss Teardrop Beyond Recognition 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:56:00 - [167] - Quote I think this thread needs a bump.
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:58:00 - [168] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: Inb4 James315 response. Dang. For a while there I thought OP was another James 146 alt? NOT
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 481	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:00:00 - [169] - Quote No More Heroes wrote: Load up a Catalyst, PM me for a fit and some tactics, and I will show you how to throw off your shackles, rise up, and smack the next person who bumps you in the face. Your Eve career will never be the same. Well, I'll be... We can kill speed tanked warships with a single cat? In highsec? With Concord? I heard you can't even kill a stationary mining vessel with one. Was that in the update the other day? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:01:00 - [170] - Quote Just started to read his "manifesto" but him and his devoted followers want no more risk in hi-sec because it will hurt their bottom line. As it is now they risk nothing.
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:03:00 - [171] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: No More Heroes wrote: Load up a Catalyst, PM me for a fit and some tactics, and I will show you how to throw off your shackles, rise up, and smack the next person who bumps you in the face. Your Eve career will never be the same. Well, I'll be... We can kill speed tanked warships with a single cat? In highsec? With Concord? I heard you can't even kill a stationary mining vessel with one. Was that in the update the other day? ^ what he said ^
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:07:00 - [172] - Quote Doesn't matter what a pilot undocks with. Go after a bumper in hi-sec and one will get Concorded. The bumpers personal security guards.
James 315 Experimental Fun Times Corp 3027	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:09:00 - [173] - Quote Vanyr Andrard wrote: The bumpers of the new order don't join the same corp, so that it is impossible to wardec them all. Now we get right to the heart of the matter. The reason the New Order is Invincible is not because of faulty game mechanics, but because... How do you fight an idea? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½ The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range.
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:09:00 - [174] - Quote ...and imho, changing a ship mass and whatever is definatly not the answer.
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:11:00 - [175] - Quote To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ?
James 315 Experimental Fun Times Corp 3027	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:16:00 - [176] - Quote Zkaor wrote: To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ? To increase risk in highsec for me, you must also increase risk in highsec for everyone else, no? Nerf Concord and you'll have risk all around. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½ The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range.
Zkaor HATRON 4 1	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:18:00 - [177] - Quote James 315 wrote: Zkaor wrote: To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ? To increase risk in highsec for me, you must also increase risk in highsec for everyone else, no? Nerf Concord and you'll have risk all around. But allow a miner to retalaite without Concord, that u r against?
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 1425	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:20:00 - [178] - Quote Zkaor wrote: James 315 wrote: Zkaor wrote: To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ? To increase risk in highsec for me, you must also increase risk in highsec for everyone else, no? Nerf Concord and you'll have risk all around. But allow a miner to retalaite without Concord, that u r against? How is that "risk?" That's basically asking for a freebie. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Rollin Forties School of Applied Street Knowledge 6	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:23:00 - [179] - Quote Zkaor wrote: James 315 wrote: Zkaor wrote: To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ? To increase risk in highsec for me, you must also increase risk in highsec for everyone else, no? Nerf Concord and you'll have risk all around. But allow a miner to retalaite without Concord, that u r against? What are you suggesting, that ship contact of a certain velocity flags someone? I like the idea of more combat but how exactly would the mechanic work? Also, like can flipping I wonder if the people calling for the mechanic would be the ones who ultimately benefit from it.
Sentamon 191	Posted - 2012.10.25 00:28:00 - [180] - Quote I would stealth add hull damage and enjoy the lols. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~

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