Not gameplay when paying customers are interrupted.

And that's wonderful for you. Some of us have lives and can't stare at a screen 24/7. We mine, then use it to build the ships you so eagerly use against us...wonder what would happen if we just stopped

And what happens when you get bumped or popped by GSF hm? Not so good when the shoes on the other foot? Or what happens when someone else simply undercuts you to continue to ensure cheap goods to the rest of New Eden?

And that is exactly how you'll be pushed out. CCP will protect it's earnings and income as opposed to allowing belligerent undesirable behavior

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for. "

Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks

Once you stop threatening ours and demanding CCP nerfs highsec, then we'll stop



You're very bad at analogies. How is;

1) Point gun at persons head
2) Hey I'll not hurt you if you pay me money
3) Money paid

a "business" and not extortion? Typical logic of the undesirables.

If you're mining 23/7 you're obviously a bot or aspiring to be one GTFO. If you stopped mining? guess what? others will take your place and provide the same service, you are not unique, there are many more players that can fly an barge/exhumer than players that actually do..

Getting ganked or being bumped is a cost of doing business, you deal with it and move on. Alternatively you can cry about it, which we actually prefer because your tears? they fuel the gank & bump campaigns. Somebody undercuts me on the market? meh so what, prices fluctuate daily and I & many other traders have enough liquid isk to push prices back up within a day or so by buying out the competition, or ignoring the undercutter until all their stuff is sold..

Not according to the EULA and Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up to pay and play. The only thing you are entitled to is access to the server, with the understanding that even that can and will be interrupted from time to time.

Nope, shareholders voluntarily give money to The New Order, mining licences holders names do not appear on minerbumping.com, James goes out of his way to ensure their anonymity and protect them from retribution from the naysayers

Someone is confusing shareholders with miners.

Shareholders support James 315 and the New Order, but don't mine.
Miners of course also support the New Order, but they buy a 10M indulgence. They're not shareholders.

She was coerced, paid your RANSOM, and also purchased stock, making her a shareholder.

Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone. It's ok though, high sec will be made safer soon, and the undesirables will be pushed out :)

No one forced her to buy the shares though.

And as I said, in general the shareholders aren't even miners.

You don't seem to grasp the distinction between the New Order asking miners to buy an indulgence for mining and investors buying shares out of their own free will.

Caught in your own lie, hm?

As I said, undesirable belligerents ruining customer experience. She was coerced, paid your RANSOM, and also purchased stock, making her a shareholder. Why she did that is anyone's guess, maybe to try to get on your good side so she can mine in peace. Either way, criminal scum is all you are

EDIT: BTW, how does your "righteous" crusade stand against "afk" miners...when they aren't afk, and are indeed talking to you?

Of course I alone would do nothing. Learn to read. I said all miners.

Fear of your "crusade" most likely did. She probably wanted to, as I said, "get on your good side..." What good side you have, I'll never know.


Except they are, as state previously in this thread, a miner is a shareholder for he hopes the higher prices will help him.



I believe I do. You use fear and coercion like scumbag criminal mobsters. Belligerent undesirables have the oddest logic

A few points:
1: The bumping mechanic in EVE was modified in the past to be less pronounced, but ships still bob around like corks when in close proximity. For immersion reasons alone it should be modified again to at least LOOK somewhat believable.

2: Goons, or anyone else for that matter, have every right to try and extort money from miners (or anyone else that lets them get away with it).

3: Yes, you will be able to put a bounty on a bumper soon... but that's really not a solution unless the bumpers are flying ships that are worth the security hit to pop and collect the bounty on.

4: Hmmm, looks like there is a need for a smaller, faster mining vessel that will be more difficult to bump for people that insist on mining in systems that have a bump operation in progress. Sort of a ninja mining vessel, perhaps frigate sized.

CCP, Buff bumping. I want dedicated bumping ship with 1 high slot for Tear Harvester II, and low slot for Tear Harvester Upgrade II.

"Allowing miners to defend themselves" has proven to be a gigantic slippery slope in the past. Giving them an inch in any direction is inevitably going to result in highsec having even less player to player interaction in it.

To all the "miners suck" type trolls: People have been bitching about neutral repping for years. The primary argument was and is that its consequence-free game play that ruins high sec pvp.

Because that group has the ability and desire to disrupt that resource center. I don't make a thread on EVE-O whenever a roaming gang comes through my ratting system and disrupts my resource center, I adapt and DEAL WITH IT.




Or you can just pay 10m isk and be done with it!

For me its a matter of principal and self respect and dignity. I refuse to allow someone to exploit a game mechanic to force me into something I dont want to do.

Bumping has many uses in EVE, many beyond just harassing miners (which I must admit is quite a good use of the mechanic). I am surprised we haven't seen a battering ram ship. Battleship mass, frigate speed, 1 high slot (no turret/missile slots, utility only).

For me its a matter of principal and self respect and dignity. I refuse to allow someone to exploit a game mechanic to force me into something I dont want to do.

Except that its not an 'exploit' and is a valid game mechanic no matter how much the bad men are abusing you and disrupting your gameplay. Collision and the ability to bump and be bumped has existed for years.

All because someone has figured out something new and innovative to do with it doesn't warrant a call to remove the mechanic entirely, or in this case- a demand by spoiled players to be able to ~defend~ themselves against it.

(you can)