No, but the damn thing won't open.

The only thing really forcing you to anything is your own brain. If you are tired of getting your progress slowed, it's nobody's fault but your own that you do not use the tools given to everyone.

Interesting.

Now apply that line of reason to say, incursions. Or high sec missions. Or any of the myriad other whines about activities that are supposedly too profitable.

Like moon goo?

Much like you. This is not a game about pvp, it is about a sandbox. If they want their sand to accumulate over time and, to them, that is fun, so be it. You have no right to say anything about it.

I wish to thank this Undesirable for proving my statements entirely.

For the benefit of any Undesirables who wish to educate themselves, I shall elucidate on how this particular Undesirable misunderstands the core concepts of EVE Online.

Firstly, the entire game is, after a fashion, PVP. Yes, even your actions constitute a form of PVP. You mine your space rocks, you sell them or use them to manufacture items. Ask yourself this, my Undesirable friend, who purchases your space rocks or manufactured goods? Other players. How do they purchase them? Through an entirely player ran and very competitive market.

Your actions are competing with other players, influencing market prices, availability, etc. You are PVPing and you don't even know.

With that in mind, how is it unreasonable that the other players - ones who are affected by your actions and playstyle - should be able to in turn affect you? It isn't.

Secondly, after making the incorrect statement that the game is "not PVP" you claimed it was instead "sandbox". How would you define "sandbox" gameplay, Undesirable? I am curious. Personally, I define it as players being able to choose their own playstyles and actions - all players, not just you. Some players may choose to interfere with your playstyle. To further relate it to the sandbox analogy... it is a single sandbox you share with others, not your own personal sandbox. There are other games and forms of entertainment in which you can have your own personal sandbox with whatever rules you wish. EVE is not one of them. You are free to do what you like, but there are other people in the sandbox and they are free to do what they like too, including kicking sand in your face.

I urge you, Undesirable, to cancel your subscriptions and purchase another game. You would find much more satisfaction and joy in other such games. You will have no such luck in EVE.

"Progress" in this game to me is training skills. I can do that while not logged in at all.

Problem?

Keep up the busywork tryhards

Much like you. This is not a game about pvp, it is about a sandbox.

What does "sandbox" mean, in your opinion then?

Carebears have a fundamental misunderstanding of what kind of game EVE is, or how... well, anything works.

Is it so hard to understand that the entire game is based around competing with others in some form or another and interfering?

They want to be able to press a button, go afk all day, not have any interaction with anyone at all, come back and have a slightly bigger number in the wallet.

It doesn't even make sense, I don't know how anyone could enjoy that or think that's the kind of game EVE is

Undesirables plz go

Replace the highlighted word with "Some Players" and you have an excellent Poast.

Is this a ganker whine thread? It feels like a ganker whine thread. I say to whining gankers "suck it up buttercup" because killing mining ships is simple.

If one Tornado/Thrasher won't work add one. Repeat until miner goes boom.

Was this a ganker whine thread?



I think it was a ganker whine thread.

You want the next thread over. This is the sandbox means everyones playstyle is legit thread.

Now, what risk do bumpers take? Oh right, nothing, absolutely no risk of anything right now. They don't even get flagged for it like can flippers. Yeah, real risky that.

If you don't like shooting ships, that's your problem. Just don't try telling me those who shoot ships have an unfair advantage when it is clearly an advantage. In fact, anything you do in this game gives you an advantage over those who don't.

That is just as crazy as people moving to a different country and asking for laws to accommodate their personal needs or beliefs.

The industrialist came before the PvP player in this game, ...

You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for.

Perhaps, shock/horror they play the game for different reasons to you. Why should your way be the right way?

This is not a game about pvp, it is about a sandbox.

Now apply that line of reason to say, incursions. Or high sec missions. Or any of the myriad other whines about activities that are supposedly too profitable.

Yes, let's turn on Concord in low sec and null sec. How about that?

The industrialist came before the PvP player in this game, and industrialists know they need the PvP aspect in order to sell more ships. If anyone is just showing up and not understanding how the game works, its the PvP players who think they don't need industry.

Now, what risk do bumpers take? Oh right, nothing, absolutely no risk of anything right now. They don't even get flagged for it like can flippers. Yeah, real risky that.

Now, what risk do bumpers take? Oh right, nothing, absolutely no risk of anything right now. They don't even get flagged for it like can flippers. Yeah, real risky that.

Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?

EVE is clearly fueled by competition and cannot survive without it. You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models.

Anyone who uses "forcing me to do this" in their argument intrigues me; I have no idea why they are spending money on this game in the first place. The only thing really forcing you to anything is your own brain. If you are tired of getting your progress slowed, it's nobody's fault but your own that you do not use the tools given to everyone.

If you don't like shooting ships, that's your problem. Just don't try telling me those who shoot ships have an unfair advantage when it is clearly an advantage. In fact, anything you do in this game gives you an advantage over those who don't.

That is just as crazy as people moving to a different country and asking for laws to accommodate their personal needs or beliefs.

Belligerent undesirables get out

I find it rather ironic that in this game, you can do whatever you want, yet people choose to be ass hats.

Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.

Like moon goo?

Additionally, those "ass hats" give value to good actions and without them there would be no contrast between good and evil.