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Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:38:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Dar Manic wrote:You want PVP, go to null sec. You want PVP, go to low sec. You want PVP, go to WH. You don't want PVP, go to hi-sec. Well unfortunately you'd be doing pvp in high sec no matter if it's killing ships or playing 0.01isk wars, scanning sites, missioning, FW, mining, producing, hauling... Wrong. You're playing semantics with PvP. Do you understand what "PVP" stands for, mate? Hint: It's "player vs player". Not specifically combat. Anything you do that competes with another player is pvp. EVE is a PVP game. See, now the mistake you've made is that you think he actually has enough knowledge of the English language to understand the literal definition. In his mind PvP means "u dun got 2 shot da ships o7"
yeah. gotz meh tharz!!
Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Lord Zim
1924
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:40:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. Go on a random forum board of gamers and ask them what isk sinks are in eve, and they'll go "well it's when you lose a ship".
Just because tons of people thinks the same thing, doesn't make them right. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:42:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. Go on a random forum board of gamers and ask them what isk sinks are in eve, and they'll go "well it's when you lose a ship". Just because tons of people thinks the same thing, doesn't make them right.
yeah... you're right. ;) I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Ryhss
Clandestine Management Group
28
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Posted - 2012.11.02 22:51:00 -
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You will play the way I tell you too.... |

baltec1
Bat Country
2701
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:20:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote: yeah. gotz meh tharz!!
Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.
No amount of flailing will get you out of this mess you got yourself into. PVP only had one meaning. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1862
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Posted - 2012.11.03 00:49:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. Just because tons of people thinks the same thing, doesn't make them right.
The kind of defines the nullsec community.
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KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1035
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Posted - 2012.11.03 00:53:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. Just because tons of people thinks the same thing, doesn't make them right. The kind of defines the nullsec community. Oooo you sure showed him didn't you. Gonna go cry in my beer. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |

Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
578
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Posted - 2012.11.03 00:56:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. Just because tons of people thinks the same thing, doesn't make them right. The kind of defines the nullsec community. Oooo you sure showed him didn't you. Gonna go cry in my beer. Is it really beer or stale **** that's been shaken a little? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1035
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Posted - 2012.11.03 01:22:00 -
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"Null players are slaves to their overlord and have bad beer" www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1035
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Posted - 2012.11.03 01:23:00 -
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"Don't go to null or we will make fun of your drinks." www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |

White Quake
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
93
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Posted - 2012.11.03 01:24:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone. 
no it wont
the industry and pve players will leave and the market will crash and the game shortly after that
if any of u idiot pvp pilots think otherwise
your a damn fool |

Lord Zim
1924
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Posted - 2012.11.03 01:38:00 -
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White Quake wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone.  no it wont the industry and pve players will leave and the market will crash and the game shortly after that if any of u idiot pvp pilots think otherwise your a damn fool hurr if you're not nice we'll all just quit and then where will you be huh huh huh yeah thought so Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
46
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Azumi Zimu wrote:baltec1 wrote: Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.
You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for. Not that I log in... Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds  We did it for profit. Our words were mainly in responce to the bears who campained to remove our playstyle. We infact spent most of our time giving out fitting advice to avoid being killed by us. Unfortuntly, the bears did not listen and managed to convince CCP to more or less kill off our playstyle.
You keep saying this baltec. Enlighten me, as I am new. Carebears did what exactly to kill your playstyle? |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
299
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:37:00 -
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White Quake wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:The belligerent undesirables will be pushed out and then the game will be for everyone.  no it wont the industry and pve players will leave and the market will crash and the game shortly after that if any of u idiot pvp pilots think otherwise your a damn fool
you define yourself as a "pvp player", but i'm sure you mean "ship-to-ship pvp combat player". I don't think your line of work deals with supply and demand.
if all indy players leave tomorrow, the demand will grow so high that new industrialists will come replace the hole. Imagine T1 ammo becoming so scarce you can sell it for 1000x it's manufacturing costs. Trust me, if it ever gets to that, the market will re-adjust itself as all of us can manufacture and seed the market. |

Ryhss
Clandestine Management Group
28
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Posted - 2012.11.03 13:37:00 -
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You all will stop posting in this thread and let it die. |

Roderick Grey
Assisted Genocide Black Legion.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 14:16:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:
yeah. gotz meh tharz!!
Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.
Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used?
Dar Manic wrote:You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.
So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't?
Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic. |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.03 21:48:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Dar Manic wrote:
yeah. gotz meh tharz!!
Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.
Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used? Dar Manic wrote:You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't? Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic.
Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Lord Zim
1924
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Posted - 2012.11.03 22:06:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said. No matter how much you're sticking your thumbs in your ears going "LA LA LA I CANNAE HEAR YOU", PVP isn't just PVP where ships go boom, instead the PVP where ships go boom is a subtype of PVP more commonly called combat PVP. You still have a ton of various types of PVP, some of them don't even involve logging in to the client.
TL/DR: You're artificially limiting the definition of PVP and calling that the One True Version of PVP, and you're wrong. Deal with it. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2701
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Posted - 2012.11.03 22:36:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:baltec1 wrote:Azumi Zimu wrote:baltec1 wrote: Yet the high sec bears continue to try to get rid of playstyles they dont like.
You guys waged a campaign against high-sec miners. You used early 20th century Anti-Semitic propaganda. You said you hated what they stood for. Not that I log in... Keep up the hypocrisy space-nerds  We did it for profit. Our words were mainly in responce to the bears who campained to remove our playstyle. We infact spent most of our time giving out fitting advice to avoid being killed by us. Unfortuntly, the bears did not listen and managed to convince CCP to more or less kill off our playstyle. You keep saying this baltec. Enlighten me, as I am new. Carebears did what exactly to kill your playstyle?
They got CCP to impliment an unnessesary EHP buff on macks because they refused to fit a tank. They also gave it a bay so big it wiped out jetcan baiting over night.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2701
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Posted - 2012.11.03 22:37:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote: Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.
What words does PVP stand for? |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3405
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Posted - 2012.11.03 22:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dar Manic wrote: Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.
What words does PVP stand for?
pinche viejo pendejo  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Roderick Grey
Assisted Genocide Black Legion.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.04 05:18:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Dar Manic wrote:
yeah. gotz meh tharz!!
Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.
Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used? Dar Manic wrote:You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't? Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic. Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.
Wow...
EDIT: I just noticed your sig, I'm assuming that you've realized how mistaken you are? |

Justice Comes
Republic University Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2012.11.04 06:37:00 -
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It really just depends how many players (money) CCP wants. We know the vast preponderance of people play in high-sec. The math is easy enough from there.
I give you this not-uncommon opinion from outside of New Eden:
"The problem is that EVE is a very self-selecting community, and frankly some of its devs and a good number of its high-profile players are the sort who only have fun at someone else's expense.
Consequently, too few folks in the larger MMO community want to play EVE. It's a game made by wolves, for wolves, and therefore it's quite limited in scope compared to a more well-rounded sandbox. Yes, EVE offers more potential than any other current MMO, but because of the personalities involved, that potential almost always translates into new and amazing ways to be an ass."
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/26/some-assembly-required-why-soe-should-be-leading-the-sandbox-ch/
So again, it just boils down to how many players they want :p Most annoying thing of the week: You failed to dock/jump because you are cloaked (in your Deep Space Transport). |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:25:00 -
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Roderick Grey wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Dar Manic wrote:
yeah. gotz meh tharz!!
Go ask on a random forum board of gamers to play a PvP game where you fight with selling and trading. They'd laugh you out in a heartbeat. You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs.
Have you ever been involved in sov warfare? Who's currently the most successful coalition in Eve? Are they poor? Do you know what a war of attrition is? Or the ways it can be used? Dar Manic wrote:You are using the general term PvP to mean something specific for your own needs. So let me get this straight, me saying pvp is players competing against players in all formats is me spinning it specifically to my own means. Yet you saying pvp is only related to ship-to-ship combat isn't? Please tell me you see the flaw in your logic. Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said. Wow... EDIT: I just noticed your sig, I'm assuming that you've realized how mistaken you are?
No, not at all. I'm assuming that you've realized how mistaken you are?
I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:26:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dar Manic wrote: Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.
What words does PVP stand for?
Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said.
I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
107
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:35:00 -
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-"You don't need to spend 15$ per month to look at nebulae and 3D ship models."-
But i can and i will,suck it up..also a video game how about u chill up some,maybe get a life and all rest of memes. "it put ore down in can or it gets the hose again"
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg |

Lord Zim
1924
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:37:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Look through the forums and see what skills are talked about when a player wants to learn pvp. Nothing more need be said. No matter how much you're sticking your thumbs in your ears going "LA LA LA I CANNAE HEAR YOU", PVP isn't just PVP where ships go boom, instead the PVP where ships go boom is a subtype of PVP more commonly called combat PVP. You still have a ton of various types of PVP, some of them don't even involve logging in to the client.
You're artificially limiting the definition of PVP and calling that the One True Version of PVP, and you're wrong. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Karrl Tian
Yarrbusters
19
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: They also gave it a bay so big it wiped out jetcan baiting over night.
Guess we know now what the majority of frivolous petitions were about. |

Taraxon Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.11.04 18:10:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:"Don't go to null or we will make fun of your drinks."
Someone actually maintains a website called minerbumping? Hard core.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2133
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Posted - 2012.11.04 19:32:00 -
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Justice Comes wrote:It really just depends how many players (money) CCP wants. We know the vast preponderance of people play in high-sec. The math is easy enough from there. I give you this not-uncommon opinion from outside of New Eden: "The problem is that EVE is a very self-selecting community, and frankly some of its devs and a good number of its high-profile players are the sort who only have fun at someone else's expense. Consequently, too few folks in the larger MMO community want to play EVE. It's a game made by wolves, for wolves, and therefore it's quite limited in scope compared to a more well-rounded sandbox. Yes, EVE offers more potential than any other current MMO, but because of the personalities involved, that potential almost always translates into new and amazing ways to be an ass." http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/26/some-assembly-required-why-soe-should-be-leading-the-sandbox-ch/So again, it just boils down to how many players they want :p eve isn't as successful as those ****** mmos with less subscribers kay |
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