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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
231
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Do you want to take a stab at guessing why?
Not my problem if you don't fit for warp speed...
Lord Zim wrote:Nobody can be this bad at reading.
To undock or not to undock is what you have to decide before you undock. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10365
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:01:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:For the sake of mankind, I'm going to just assume you're trolling. Nobody can be this bad at reading. He isn't. He's just an unrepentant liar with little to no grasp of details such as reality or facts.
Jorma Morkkis wrote:Not my problem if you don't fit for warp speed... GǪand once again, you don't answer the question. So again, want to take a stab at guessing why you've never seen an arty Thrasher try to destroy an Interceptor? (The matter of those 3 seconds will be left for later.)
Quote:To undock or not to undock is what you have to decide before you undock. GǪand you have to decide something else as well: whether or not to make yourself a worth-while target. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1779
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:02:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Your reading abilities leave something to be desired. Tippia said before you undock, not don't undock. I didn't know you can decided not to undock after you have undocked... For the sake of mankind, I'm going to just assume you're trolling. Nobody can be this bad at reading. Mankind is already lost. It's too late, when you have observed such symptoms, nothing can cure the ailment.
It's a terminal condition. EVE is also suffering from it - Mortal Stupidity.
P.S. EVE is dying. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Lord Zim
2030
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:02:00 -
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Yep, trolling it is. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10710
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:03:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:To undock or not to undock is what you have to decide before you undock. Much like when leaving the house in the morning, it's whether to open the door or not. Nothing else comes into it.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
231
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand once again, you don't answer the question. So again, want to take a stab at guessing why you've never seen an arty Thrasher try to destroy an Interceptor? (The matter of those 3 seconds will be left for later.)
They are AFK? Hisec, you know. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10365
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:17:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:They are AFK? Hisec, you know. That would be one explanation, but it would be completely meaningless since you're trying to explain why something doesn't happen by saying that it nothing is happening. You're begging the question.
Here are a couple of hints: look at the the rewards for killing an interceptor. Look at the damage output of the Thrasher in question. Look at the time allotted for the task. Look at the tank of the interceptor. Now go back to the Thrasher and adjust it so it can do what you want it to do, and finally, go back and have a second look at the reward for shooting the interceptor. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:32:00 -
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Heh- 17 Pages filled with people ignoring common sense and basic aggression mechanics. |

turmajin
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:44:00 -
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Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.Freighters are there to hual big loads of goods from A to B they shouldnt be warships of any kind. and armour ect imo is fine.I do however think they should be able to fit THE TARGET BREAKER MOD,and only that mod ,so they at least have a chance of escape.from a massed attackThey are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK It might then hopefully help to mitigate the artificial inflation being generated by ganking frieghters.on certain goods ,just so an alliance or colition can make ISK |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10365
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:50:00 -
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turmajin wrote:Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo. It really isn't. It's still an exceedingly rare event GÇö it's just that people are making a lot of noise about it when it happens (quite likely exactly because it's such a rare event that it comes as a shock to them when it actually does happen).
If it were really out of hand, people wouldn't even bat an eye lid at it when it happened. 
Quote:Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt. Good. The game needs more of that kind of global interaction patterns.
Quote:They are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK Not really, no. Not that either is a good factor for balance anyway. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10712
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:51:00 -
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turmajin wrote:Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.Freighters are there to hual big loads of goods from A to B they shouldnt be warships of any kind. and armour ect imo is fine.I do however think they should be able to fit THE TARGET BREAKER MOD,and only that mod ,so they at least have a chance of escape.from a massed attackThey are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK It might then hopefully help to mitigate the artificial inflation being generated by ganking frieghters.on certain goods ,just so an alliance or colition can make ISK Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

turmajin
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:03:00 -
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Mag's wrote:turmajin wrote:Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.Freighters are there to hual big loads of goods from A to B they shouldnt be warships of any kind. and armour ect imo is fine.I do however think they should be able to fit THE TARGET BREAKER MOD,and only that mod ,so they at least have a chance of escape.from a massed attackThey are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK It might then hopefully help to mitigate the artificial inflation being generated by ganking frieghters.on certain goods ,just so an alliance or colition can make ISK Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. 
IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shoting fish in a barral.A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it.But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do. |

Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
355
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:04:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:idk, stop sucking or something. It's kinda difficult when you guys go even after 981k m3 of trit... I know there isn't enough trit in null to build titans but geez... Chances are you are red to the CFC, and that's why we killed you.
Tau Cabalander wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Lost one Charon full of trit yesterday. I haul 6 Charons of Trit a week (I actually own 6 Charons). I've not lost one yet. My most recent haulage was 12 billion ISK of BPO. I used a scout. [I was too lazy to make multiple trips.] [Condor, Triple Web (WWW)] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I I'd recommend a daredevil with minmatar frig V.
Riddick Liddell wrote: Go back to WoW lost the touch? We need to abuse Hello Kitty now?
It isn't about EHP. It's about bump mechanics. Speaking of Hello Kittie, not like Bumping someone to death isn't as fruity as it gets.
No one cries their balls off when a super gets bumped out of a pos and then executed. Why is this any different? Oh it isn't because bumping is legal. |

Dredboss
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:05:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:CCP has not only created a social experiment that allows sociopathic behavior, but actually encourages it.
You probably shouldn't play any games of risk/reward like poker. You'd feel bad about winning.
Mr Epeen wrote:If the experiment fails, it's not the little bees fault. Nor Bat Country or any of the other griefers that CCP has invited to indulge in this antisocial behavior.
That word doesn't mean what you think it means, as there is a great deal of socializing involved in coordinating these efforts. Maybe you should have not slept through class.
Mr Epeen wrote:No; if you must lay blame, lay it on the company that made this game. Not the people that are abusing the mechanics that were designed into it.
TLDR: For better or worse, it's working as intended.
You should stop playing Eve, since you clearly don't understand it. Save your $ for therapy instead, or the collection plate at church where you can rail at God for allowing humans to use physics to do things you don't approve of.
Or... OR.. you can reach down real deep like, and you can find your ********* and strife. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5556
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:15:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. 
No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously. ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10365
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:Mag's wrote:Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod.  No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously. You just had to say it, didn't you?  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2926
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:19:00 -
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Flew 250b of stuff in a pair of freighters last week and didn't lose anything because I am not lazy or dumb. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10713
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:49:00 -
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turmajin wrote:Mag's wrote:Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod.  IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shoting fish in a barral.A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it.But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do. Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

turmajin
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:50:00 -
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Andski wrote:Mag's wrote:Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod.  No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously.
Well thats a very easy fix imo,after all breaking a target lock on you is hardly an act of agrression so CONCORD wouldnt be bothered at all and a neutral ship wouldnt have a reason to target lock you at all.just make the mod break locks on you very simply fix. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10713
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:52:00 -
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turmajin wrote:Andski wrote:Mag's wrote:Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod.  No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously. Well thats a very easy fix imo,after all breaking a target lock on you is hardly an act of agrression so CONCORD wouldnt be bothered at all and a neutral ship wouldnt have a reason to target lock you at all.just make the mod break locks on you very simply fix. But a target lock is not deemed as an aggressive act, whereas breaking said lock is.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
755
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:58:00 -
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Newsflash wrote:14 freighters/jf suicide ganked in empire last 24h by just handful of ships in every gank. 10 bc do it easily or 20 destroyers... this thing is just escalating by day. ccp time to do something about easiness and huge profit and neglible risk suicideganking these big ships offers.
If players want to gang up and gank a freighter, good for them.
This is Eve after all. This is not a signature. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1068
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:02:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:But...to get the trit to the factory system where you're making the trit into T1 large guns, you'd move it in a ...freighter full of only trit.
You generally just buy the guns.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
231
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:02:00 -
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turmajin wrote:
IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shooting fish in a barral. A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it. But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do.
That's the elephant in the room. It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people. Ganking freighter proves you could if you wanted, gank a Skiff. Nobody is doing it though. The math doesn't work in their favor. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Lance Rossiter
CHAINS Corp
8
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:03:00 -
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Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts? |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2926
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:03:00 -
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turmajin wrote:[quote=Mag's]Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. 
IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shoting fish in a barral.A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it.But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do. This isn't asking to make the game more 'challanging', it's asking to make the game easier. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
356
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:06:00 -
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Lance Rossiter wrote:Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts? good luck with either. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10365
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:07:00 -
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Ioci wrote:It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people. No, that's not their only option.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:14:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:But...to get the trit to the factory system where you're making the trit into T1 large guns, you'd move it in a ...freighter full of only trit. You generally just buy the guns.
The same argument still holds, except now 'you' becomes a plural pronoun, referencing the gun buyer and the gun seller as an economic unit. |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
231
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:15:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ioci wrote:It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people. No, that's not their only option.
You argued me on the forum.
You win EVE. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1299
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Posted - 2012.11.19 00:21:00 -
[360] - Quote
Ioci wrote:Tippia wrote:Ioci wrote:It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people. No, that's not their only option. You argued me on the forum. You win EVE.
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