There's no exploit being utilized.

If it's so easy, why aren't more people doing it?

Development teams implement mechanics in context. Much like your quoting style, you have an adept ability to rip those mechanics out of their context and hack them to death. It's exploit like any use of the definition.

In that respect GS have the upper hand. They show how broken EVE is. I'm sure CCP would just as soon see them do it in other ways but it all comes out in the wash.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but previously you were stating that it was stupid to carry more than this apparently perceived "limit" - it's not stupid, it's risky. There's a difference. If you play smart, you can minimise the risk by either reducing your cargo, or utilising any number of methods for safer transit from one system to another while maintaining the maximum possible cargo.

Also, people need to stop translating how people play the game as how people live their real lives - the two are not one and the same. While I agree that freighter pilots need to stop bitching, I stand firmly against your assumption that any one of them is incapable of taking responsibility of their real life. This is just a game, so please try to keep that in mind before you go libelling people expatiously.

Sure you could call it "risky" if you so desired, but there is a point where "risky" becomes stupidity. I mean carrying 20billion isk worth of stuff on autopilot is stupidity. Moving 32 plexes in a freighter is stupidity. Carrying 6 months worth of moon goo is stupidity.

The excuse "it's a game" goes out the window once you log into these forums and start complaining about completely legitimate game mechanics that have been around for as long as eve has been running. There is no substantial criticism about the current state of freighter ganking, nor is there people providing viable solutions to the problem. So i stand firmly behind what i said.

Explain to us how it's an exploit, then, and how you would like it to be fixed.

And before we lose sight of what's important here, so about that presumed "all trit freighter", where's the killmail for it?

I explained how it's an exploited use of the mechanic.
Ships lose velocity when they are jammed or bumped at a different rate than they gain it. Knowing that you can hold a ship as long as you need to in order to kill it.

tons of tinfoil

I don't have a tin foil hat on.

Why, you want to buy him off?

Will it be 10 billion this time around too?

Why, you want to buy him off?

Will it be 10 billion this time around too?

You wanted the spot light you got it.

The greatest thing about an EULA is, it pretty much says CCP can make it up as they go. I hate to hate anyone but I know a rat when I see it.

So, I just spoke to the GM Team regarding this to get some clarification:

Firstly, people who are bumped always have the right to petition. It is the right of any player who feels that they want to petition an issue to do so.

However, with regards to the rules in EVE Online our current view is:

• Bumping is not considered harassment.
• Bumping is not considered griefing.
• Bumping is not against the rules.

It's actually been used for a long time to prevent warping as a rudimentary form of tackling when you don't have a point, or don't have sufficient disruption strength to keep someone pinned.

Along with that, the people that are doing this for the best part are in player corporations. If you don't like what they're doing, declare war on them so that you can punish them, or pay a merc corp to do so on your behalf if you don't want to fight.

There are plenty of options to counter this, if you use your imagination.

Let's get one thing straight here, I'm not making excuses. It's a fact. People are wrong to criticize the game mechanics, but that's all they are - wrong. You have no right to visit the personalities or mental states of people you know nothing about. It is ellitist, immature, and quite frankly unnecessary if you have a good argument to counter their criticism with. What you said about these people was absolutely disgraceful. By making such pithy remarks about people, you are doing your arguments a disservice, and discrediting yourself as a civilised and legitimate member of the EVE community.

You know the entire manufacturing structure of EVE is in Jita due to the proximity to all the technetium, you know anyone not in your NAP train needs to run freighters through Niarja and Eudama. You know that even if the random neutral is caught up in it, none of that matters to you.

You control the game. Because of systems made years ago using an engine that wasn't made to run the EVE it sits on now, you control the game. You manipulate markets, you manipulate T2, you manipulate traffic lanes. CCP are powerless to stop it. They hope for a miracle from the player base but in the end, you control the game.

And before we lose sight of what's important here, so about that presumed "all trit freighter", where's the killmail for it?

Because the rest of us aren't antisocial sociopaths with no empathy.

Null isn't a Call of Duty match, it is about finding the high ground and taking it, putting people in a jam. Using strategy beyond Drakes and Rokhs to win wars. Though of course then the complaint is they have more, repaint your recruiting office then. The game you are looking for is Call of Duty.

Empathizing with the buffalo won't get you a meal or a nice coat.

Yes, I've seen that one, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was that one, but that's still just 202227.25m3. The guy claimed it was a full freighter of nothing but trit. So I'm still calling "it doesn't exist" until someone coughs up a proper, api-verified killmail with nothing but trit in it.

Yes, I've seen that one, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was that one, but that's still just 202227.25m3. The guy claimed it was a full freighter of nothing but trit. So I'm still calling "it doesn't exist" until someone coughs up a proper, api-verified killmail with nothing but trit in it.

idk, stop sucking or something.

I've been monitoring the killboards and nothings shown up recently with "just trit". Is it even possible to have a value of a freighter that provides a chance of a reward when it contains only trit?

I'm not saying that you personally are making excuses, my comments were directed more towards the people actually making excuses in this thread. And as for my "rights" this is a forum for people to voice their opinions, there are plently of people making assumptions about peoples lives all throughout this forums, the game and everything else associated with eve. Just because i happen to hit a sore spot doesn't mean that I am "elitist" or "Immature" and saying I'm not going to make it as a legitimate member of the "eve community" I really can't understand which community you mean.

Is it the people who whinge about nothing?
Is it the people who can't understand basic game mechanics?
Is it the people who have their heads up their ass?
The highsec carebears?
The faction warfare guys?
Is it the wormhole corps?
Is it the mission runners in 0.0?
Is it the sov warfare grunts?

(please enlighten me because I really want to know)


And I fit in quite well within my own social bubble in eve online and while I may not be a truly be a messiah of the people you should really understand that thousands of different people play this game. And there are a lot of different people from different cultures, upbringings, socioeconomic backgrounds, different jobs, ages, ways of life and many, many more differences among us. Maybe you need to accept the fact that some people won't agree with you on everything that you say or do. But one thing stays the same throughout the world; people who would rather point the blame finger at someone else than provide constructive arguments.

Yes, I've seen that one, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was that one, but that's still just 202227.25m3. The guy claimed it was a full freighter of nothing but trit. So I'm still calling "it doesn't exist" until someone coughs up a proper, api-verified killmail with nothing but trit in it.

That last part - you should keep it in mind the next time you want to refer to someone you don't know as having no personality. And you've been doing as much finger pointing and blaming. You were the one calling people stupid. I only need to go back a page or two to find the posts, but I think you know the one's I'm talking about. If you want to make constructive arguments, then why do you feel the need to inject such hostility? There's no point to it. Talk to people, don't antagonise them, and maybe they'll be more willing to listen. Or, antagonise them and watch them ignore you completely - seriously, what do you expect?

You hit no sore spot with me, but why you seem to think that's some kind of victory or something to achieve suggests that it is what you were trying to achieve to begin with, hence why I assume you have nothing constructive to offer that hasn't already been offered.

Ps. Remember after mining barges buf, some people swich to freigters... just becuse is easy to destroy, small buf for freigters would be nice, but come on, even buf cant protect silly pilots.