I know you guys lost ISK on that, It seems it was a grudge kill for something else that happened.

I'm sure there are 50,000 people who think the same way every time you guys start yet another 'We killed a freighter" thread.

christ make up your mind, is it really a problem or just some goon trying get attention?

Like I said before, its just Ministry Business.

Think of it like a write-off. When a competing corporation moves into your market, sometimes you spend the resources to reaffirm your dominance.



To be fair, Goons didn't start this thread if you've read the OP. But it does deliver.

I know you guys lost ISK on that, It seems it was a grudge kill for something else that happened.

The point in High Sec is to so you guys will keep that stuff out of High Sec.

The point in hisec is that it's high security, not perfect security. I see you still haven't grasped this concept.

Doesn't that imply Null sec should be no-security?

Well .. since this discussion on wether a real HighSec would be the death of EVE or not is something that encounters me evrytime I open the forums here a purpose ....

CCP opens a second Server with harsh HighSec where PVE can be done without interference of other players. Low- and Null-Sec remain untouched. Depending on player counts cut down some systems so the relativ populance remains roughly the same.
I think that in this experiment the PVE-Server would wash more real money into the wallets of CCP then the (so called) pvp Server. Why that ? Because PVP-Players mostly buy PLEX in Jita with ISK. PVE-Causual-Gamers buy them in Shop for real money.
What would happen if CCP creates a lone server for pvp without HighSec ? Nothing because after a week or so nobody would play there because of the lag auf PVE-Players to produce minerals, ships, equipment etc.

PVP --> NO content, just destruction of content
PVE --> only content, only marginal loss of content e.g. on high-lvl missions

both seperatly cannot exist without the other but if either side get too much weight, balance will tip and EVE will die .. faster then now.

btw. I unsub because of this. Just not my game .. too much stress without gain.

My corp and I recently encountered a group of suicide gankers. Knowing we needed to move a freighter ourselves we explored several options.

1. Make sure the cargo was only a couple (2-3) billion worth in goods.
2. Avoid known hot spots according to kill boards.
3. Escort the freighter with scouts.
4. Bring along a few ECM ships to try and minimize the incoming damage.
5. Pay attention to local for anyone that is known to be with suicide ganker gangs.

In the end we still lost the freighter to a log on trap. When the frighter landed on the gate a suicide gang was landing on it from all directions and did not come from any of the other systems, we know because we had scouts in all directions. When they landed they engaged and forced our freighter to jump the gate or die. We tried to ECM some, but they had far too much DPS. And of course the other group was on the other side of the gate to finish off the freighter, logging in as well.

So kindly take all your advice on how these things are avoidable and shove them directly up your basement dwelling fat ass!

I QUIT!

Well .. since this discussion on wether a real HighSec would be the death of EVE or not is something that encounters me evrytime I open the forums here a purpose ....

CCP opens a second Server with harsh HighSec where PVE can be done without interference of other players. Low- and Null-Sec remain untouched. Depending on player counts cut down some systems so the relativ populance remains roughly the same.
I think that in this experiment the PVE-Server would wash more real money into the wallets of CCP then the (so called) pvp Server. Why that ? Because PVP-Players mostly buy PLEX in Jita with ISK. PVE-Causual-Gamers buy them in Shop for real money.
What would happen if CCP creates a lone server for pvp without HighSec ? Nothing because after a week or so nobody would play there because of the lag auf PVE-Players to produce minerals, ships, equipment etc.

PVP --> NO content, just destruction of content
PVE --> only content, only marginal loss of content e.g. on high-lvl missions

both seperatly cannot exist without the other but if either side get too much weight, balance will tip and EVE will die .. faster then now.

btw. I unsub because of this. Just not my game .. too much stress without gain.

Focus fire, dps and you need to wait until it's fired before you can do anything or you get the concord.
By then it's too late.

I'm thinking I might buy a bunch of crapdari throw away frigates and triple web them until my sub runs out.

My corp and I recently encountered a group of suicide gankers. Knowing we needed to move a freighter ourselves we explored several options.

1. Make sure the cargo was only a couple (2-3) billion worth in goods.
2. Avoid known hot spots according to kill boards.
3. Escort the freighter with scouts.
4. Bring along a few ECM ships to try and minimize the incoming damage.
5. Pay attention to local for anyone that is known to be with suicide ganker gangs.

In the end we still lost the freighter to a log on trap. When the frighter landed on the gate a suicide gang was landing on it from all directions and did not come from any of the other systems, we know because we had scouts in all directions. When they landed they engaged and forced our freighter to jump the gate or die. We tried to ECM some, but they had far too much DPS. And of course the other group was on the other side of the gate to finish off the freighter, logging in as well.

So kindly take all your advice on how these things are avoidable and shove them directly up your basement dwelling fat ass!

I QUIT!

My corp and I recently encountered a group of suicide gankers. Knowing we needed to move a freighter ourselves we explored several options.
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Make sure the cargo was only a couple (2-3) billion worth in goods.

Whoa but you didn't even get ganked are we that meta?

Another satisfied customer thank you come again.

You got outsmarted and rather than learn you quit.

Stop trying to replicate UO's trammel mistake.

Now this is some awesome tears over something which is easily circumventable. vOv

I doubt that .. just too many psychos and sociopaths :) I have better ways to spend my money :)
btw .. who do you think are paying the plex with real money ? The causual gamers you don't want in this game or you .. these all sooooooo hard and tough and 30cm rider of doom and peril gangsters sitting infront of you pc 24h a day ? :) Without real money and not isk .. the problem will solve anyway in a year or two :) So bye bye .. enjoy our stay as long as it lasts :)

I doubt that .. just too many psychos and sociopaths :)

The causual gamers you don't want in this game or you .. these all sooooooo hard and tough and 30cm rider of doom and peril gangsters sitting infront of you pc 24h a day ? :)

I doubt that .. just too many psychos and sociopaths :) I have better ways to spend my money :)

Warp titans into a subcap fleet at 0, nothing could possibly go wrong.

The fun thing is that even with the current mechanics, we had FCs promise death and murder if some guy warped at 0 to a Titan with a BC

So tempting...

A couple of Hero Falcons or Blackbirds, camped at these choke points would reduce the amount of ganks...

Also, posting in a stealth buff Freighters because people are stupid thread...

My corp and I recently encountered a group of suicide gankers. Knowing we needed to move a freighter ourselves we explored several options.

1. Make sure the cargo was only a couple (2-3) billion worth in goods.
2. Avoid known hot spots according to kill boards.
3. Escort the freighter with scouts.
4. Bring along a few ECM ships to try and minimize the incoming damage.
5. Pay attention to local for anyone that is known to be with suicide ganker gangs.

In the end we still lost the freighter to a log on trap. When the frighter landed on the gate a suicide gang was landing on it from all directions and did not come from any of the other systems, we know because we had scouts in all directions. When they landed they engaged and forced our freighter to jump the gate or die. We tried to ECM some, but they had far too much DPS. And of course the other group was on the other side of the gate to finish off the freighter, logging in as well.

So kindly take all your advice on how these things are avoidable and shove them directly up your basement dwelling fat ass!

I QUIT!

I doubt that .. just too many psychos and sociopaths :) I have better ways to spend my money :)
btw .. who do you think are paying the plex with real money and thereby the servers running and the developers paid ? The causual gamers you don't want in this game or you .. these all sooooooo hard and tough and 30cm rider of doom and peril gangsters sitting infront of you pc 24h a day ? :) Without real money and not isk .. the problem will solve anyway in a year or two :) So bye bye .. enjoy our stay as long as it lasts :)

My corp and I recently encountered a group of suicide gankers. Knowing we needed to move a freighter ourselves we explored several options.

1. Make sure the cargo was only a couple (2-3) billion worth in goods.
2. Avoid known hot spots according to kill boards.
3. Escort the freighter with scouts.
4. Bring along a few ECM ships to try and minimize the incoming damage.
5. Pay attention to local for anyone that is known to be with suicide ganker gangs.

In the end we still lost the freighter to a log on trap. When the frighter landed on the gate a suicide gang was landing on it from all directions and did not come from any of the other systems, we know because we had scouts in all directions. When they landed they engaged and forced our freighter to jump the gate or die. We tried to ECM some, but they had far too much DPS. And of course the other group was on the other side of the gate to finish off the freighter, logging in as well.

So kindly take all your advice on how these things are avoidable and shove them directly up your basement dwelling fat ass!

I QUIT!