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Angelica Scatterbrain
WH United
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:39:00 -
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Galmas wrote:[quote=Spc One]What patch notes don't tell you:
Heavy Missiles and Drake and Hurricane re-balancing are certainly going the right way. At least from a pvp point of view.
For my part its a big thumbs up on that balancing!!!
So what you're saying is that you have been raped by drake fleets and you want mommy to fix it for you. |
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth R.E.P.O.
21
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:40:00 -
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nesdaq wrote:Insta agro (10 sec)from rats. Fun if you're in a BS/ orca/ freighter jumping around and have jamming rats (and not mention the 5min. timer every time)
Is it really still 10 seconds? Make it really insta please! Hardcore game play rules! |
Matham Gwynne
Rocky Mountain Twins
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:42:00 -
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Just tried flying my Rattlesnake on an L4 mission. Rats started popping drones as soon as I let the drones out of the bay. Level V Drone Durability, Light Drones vs Frigates. Took about 1 second for the first drone to be into its structure.
Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.
I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.
I don't mind losing a drone occassionally. Happens. But if I'm going to lose one ever few seconds, before they can even get into engagement range with their targets, that's going to get expensive fast.
Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM. |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
257
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:46:00 -
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Matham Gwynne wrote:
Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.
I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.
Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM.
The drone hate is an issue they have known about for some time, yet they still felt in necesarry to push the new AI regardless with the hopes of finding a fix down the road. Irresponsible, as the rats were not "broken" before, just wimpy...
Also, to CCP...
Your new awesomely "persistant" Inventory windows...where did they go? They seem to have lost all persistance between Bucky last week and TQ today??? http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
Riker Atros
Intergalactic Expedition Division
39
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:48:00 -
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Spc One wrote:Shadowschild wrote:Why do I get the sinking feeling my dominix with
1) heavy drones on BS targets orbiting 30km just became useless. 2) Heavy maintenance bots for ded complexes just became useless or annoying to oversee.
Can anyone comment on the new AI changes with this setup?
It took a long ass time to train heavy drones man, they should have boosted the speed or something i did here: Spc One wrote:What patch notes don't tell you:
EXPANSION ABOUT NERFS, Because Missiles were ok for 6 years now but now they're overpowered.
a.) PVE
1. All missile ships are now obsolete (very low range and decreased damage) 2. All Drone ships are now obsolete due to new AI (your drones get targeted as soon as you deploy them) 3. All ships that rely on drones for protection against frigates are obsolete 4. NPC's tracking disruptor now affects optimal range and falloff instead of just optimal range, which makes 800mm's minmatar ships obsolete in pve. 5. All npc complexes and ark missions are now insanely hard to do, you can't use drones 6. There are only few ships that can save you from mission if you loose all of your drones and get stuck (scrambled with npc agression). 7. New meta 9 - 14 drone modules are obsolete for pve, since ai will always shoot your drones. 8. If you use marauders or other ships for guristas missions you'll get perma jammed, there's nothing you can do since you can't use drones.
b). PVP 1. All Heavy Missile ships are now obsolete 2. Drake is worst battlecruiser for pvp 3. Hurricane got nerfed so it is kinda useless now 4. Tengu now sucks compared to other t-3's 5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets
Quote: 5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets
read that last part number 5
GOOD. |
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:48:00 -
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Silver Coon wrote:I really don't like that now when I use the scroll wheel in the market for modifying prices, I HAVE to be with the cursor over the price box for it to work. (PC) No, no, you don't understand it. That's the most awesome change they've made in all their patches ever. Death to the Microsoft Windows style of scroll-to-focus! GO the Linux way!
Though I'd be happy for it to be a config option to keep everyone happy . |
Glarbl Blarbl
Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau
23
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:50:00 -
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First off, I want to congratulate the Devs on pulling off a very ambitious expansion which runs on my hackintosh on day one! :D
I LOVE the new sounds! (now if i could only figure out why Eve has never recognized my mackie onyx blackbird as a place to send audio on the mac...) Also I am so happy that I don't have to give a window focus to scroll it anymore, YAY!! The target reticules look awesome :) Loving compact mode for market deliveries and the new streamlined repair dialog.
Some things I think should be tweaked: Make it so i can move the damage notifications around, as it is I'm spending a lot of time moving my camera so i can see the notifications and the action at the same time; Market deliveries doesn't remember that I want it open in the bottom-right corner every time I dock; (This doesn't belong here, but since I'm talking about tweaks) the mission status in the HUD should have the mission title in red while the objective is uncompleted and then turn green when it is.
That's all I've got for now. Thanks for all your hard work, guys :)
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Steijn
Quay Industries CAStabouts
198
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:51:00 -
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unless you use a sentry drone boat, i wouldnt bother with drone boats in missions from now on. |
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth R.E.P.O.
21
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:52:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Colonial Burton wrote:
But then they shoot the drones, so you recall them, then how are you supposed to have them engage the target once you re-launch them? They won't auto-attack until something new shoots the host ship, or if you can lock onto something, which you can't, because your damped to hell and back.
Le sigh - would you like me to come and do your mission for you? Maybe all this means is you can't fly lvl4s solo anymore. What a shame.
LVL4 missions as teamwork?
OMG how sweet would that be!!! |
Steijn
Quay Industries CAStabouts
198
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:53:00 -
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Glarbl Blarbl wrote:First off, I want to congratulate the Devs on pulling off a very ambitious expansion which runs on my hackintosh on day one! :D
I LOVE the new sounds! (now if i could only figure out why Eve has never recognized my mackie onyx blackbird as a place to send audio on the mac...) Also I am so happy that I don't have to give a window focus to scroll it anymore, YAY!! The target reticules look awesome :) Loving compact mode for market deliveries and the new streamlined repair dialog.
Some things I think should be tweaked: Make it so i can move the damage notifications around, as it is I'm spending a lot of time moving my camera so i can see the notifications and the action at the same time; Market deliveries doesn't remember that I want it open in the bottom-right corner every time I dock; (This doesn't belong here, but since I'm talking about tweaks) the mission status in the HUD should have the mission title in red while the objective is uncompleted and then turn green when it is.
That's all I've got for now. Thanks for all your hard work, guys :)
u can move the dmg notificatiions, from the notification/log window |
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ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:53:00 -
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CCP Arrow wrote:Hauntable wrote:Silver Coon wrote:I really don't like that now when I use the scroll wheel in the market for modifying prices, I HAVE to be with the cursor over the price box for it to work. (PC) Xilael wrote:Who the f... changed the mousewheel settings so that it scrolls in the current window instead of the highlighted box?
Makes adjusting prices so slow... "Scroll bars become active once the user hovers the area of their function which applies to both windows and tabs within windows" This is a not a good change. Requires you to constantly move your mouse to the window/text box you want to scroll or you can end up scrolling a window in the background. It is a common feature in recent interfaces to only need to intersect the area you want to control with the mouse without the need to click it first. It also allows you to be able to control that area in more ways like moving items and scrolling at the same time as mentioned above. We realize this is a change to how EVE used to be but we are quite sure it is the way we would do it if we were releasing EVE for the first time today and this change is part of updating the EVE UI so that it can keep evolving to meet the needs of the majority of our players. Ok, you made it sound much better than I did :) |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:54:00 -
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Matham Gwynne wrote:Just tried flying my Rattlesnake on an L4 mission. Rats started popping drones as soon as I let the drones out of the bay. Level V Drone Durability, Light Drones vs Frigates. Took about 1 second for the first drone to be into its structure.
Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.
I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.
I don't mind losing a drone occassionally. Happens. But if I'm going to lose one ever few seconds, before they can even get into engagement range with their targets, that's going to get expensive fast.
Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM.
/me Note to self: go short on all drone and missile hulls
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Galmas
United System's Commonwealth R.E.P.O.
21
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:55:00 -
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Tirreal wrote:OK ,
Hurricane, why was the PG reduced? never realy saw why. now, with a 4% pg implant, I cann't use my pvp neut fit. max pg skills and can I get a refund on the drake I just bought? lol
so the re-balancing actually worked!!! |
Xavier Linx
Omni Research The Methodical Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:57:00 -
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The nerf to Drake was expected, I'm just surprised it took so long for it to happen.
Seems like missile change thing was just half-done, though. The Nighthawk and the Cerb are now even more useless. New is that it's impossible ti run even simple level 4s in a Tengu any more. As always 'impossible' only means you need a full Estamel fit to have a chance without rewarping umpteen times.
Well guys, It's time to jump into the Amarr boats and go kill some of those new sitting ducks in 0.0! |
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth R.E.P.O.
22
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Posted - 2012.12.04 18:57:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:The people who spend their time adjusting their market orders by 0.01 ISK every hour are obviously fond of torture, so why not torture them a little more?
This!!!! |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:01:00 -
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Matham Gwynne wrote:Just tried flying my Rattlesnake on an L4 mission. Rats started popping drones as soon as I let the drones out of the bay. Level V Drone Durability, Light Drones vs Frigates. Took about 1 second for the first drone to be into its structure.
Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.
I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.
I don't mind losing a drone occassionally. Happens. But if I'm going to lose one ever few seconds, before they can even get into engagement range with their targets, that's going to get expensive fast.
Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM. My primary missioning ship is also a Rattlesnake.
This change affects a lot more than just missions. Incursions should be affected too.
I remember someone saying that if you use drones in wormholes, you need to use T1 and bring LOTS of spares. Is that what it's gonna come down to? T1 level DPS and a drone bay crammed with spares? Thinking of drones as expensive consumable ammo ?
I'll play with this some more, but I'm thinking I'll be flying my Machariel from now on. In all practicality, it seems like drones have been obsoleted, which makes the new drone mods a seriously odd addition. What is alos odd is that gate guns don't shoot at drones, but ratz seek them with high priority. I'm not getting the underlying rationale.
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Galmas
United System's Commonwealth R.E.P.O.
22
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:02:00 -
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Ohto Pach wrote:There's a really annoying high pitched screech that plays apparently whenever something that starts a timer of some sorts happens. Whenever you shoot a rat, jump a gate or undock etc. there's the sound. I could live without the 5 second countdown sounds when a timer is running out, too.
I'm not quite sure if this is the correct thread for this but apparently this is intended behaviour so I posted this in here intead of the "EVE Online: Retribution 1.0 Issues" thread.
Sorry for spamming but i really have to stress that topic. Please make it optional instead of mandatory or turn it off again. |
Coyote Reach
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:04:00 -
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Expansion rolled out pretty smooth from all had the opportunity i've had to interact with so far.
Drones are my issue. The AI seems to be excessively violent against them. Its like a shortbus full of overweight 3rd graders are unleashed on confetti cake. I typically run level V's with Sentries or when lazy i use a carrier. I'd heard drones would be fair targets coming up in next patches so was expecting some of this but not too worried about repping them in space etc. The big thing is the degree of hate the AI has for them. When my fighters start going down they go down pretty hard so i need to really be on the ball to get the fighter back in range /lock / rep/scan for more fighters dying/send repped fighter back to target /recall new injured fighter to range/ all the while dscanning. Its fun dont get me wrong but godamn. My sentries are taking quite a pounding as well, have to be extremely careful almost to the point of them not being useful at all. If lights are out taking care of the smaller scramble frigates...well.. finger needs to be on the recall button within seconds of them getting aggro.
I'm not whining , not yet. But gg to those who build drones.
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Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
36
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:05:00 -
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When dualboxing I manually have to set music to 0 or I get two different music playlists all the time. Please add a button that I can hit for "stop music" "continue music". Ugleb > and TDR won't log in so long as their core members are demotivated for whichever reason is in flavour this week |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10516
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:07:00 -
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Urgg Boolean wrote:This change affects a lot more than just missions. Incursions should be affected too. No, it doesn't change anything about incursions. They already have the new AI.
Quote:I remember someone saying that if you use drones in wormholes, you need to use T1 and bring LOTS of spares. Is that what it's gonna come down to? No, because people quickly realised what else you could do to make the Sleepers hate you more than they hated your drones.
Ewar, remote support, and just a watchful eye should keep them safe enough. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
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Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:16:00 -
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They won't fix it or help you because they don't care, hell they already break bookmarks every other patch by moving stuff around randomly. At least they do in GW. At the end of the day, subscription maintenance has ceased to mean anything to CCP, it's all about new subs and most players don't even realize the utility of bookmarks until after they've sunk a significant amount of time into Eve. |
Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
64
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:16:00 -
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Korinne wrote:Hi, we're CCP, we would like you to know how awesome we are, so to show you, we are going to rehash and reimpliment old mechanics and features, as well as releasing content developed years ago, while calling it new and innovative, because we're not sure you realize just how awesome we are. We would also like to emphasize just how sleek and customizable everything we impliment is, it is so sleek that the buttons to customize it or turn off these new innovations are impossible to find because they are non existent. Please enjoy giving us more money as we continue to put less effort and money into this game for our upcoming liquidation of the EvE online franchise with the launch of Dust.
Hello CCP, nice of you to be in touch. We're the EVE players and we would like you to know that we hate you. We resent change and any alterations you make to the game is sure to result in a "give us back the old" post within five minutes. If it affects anything we may ever have skilled for, we will demand our skillpoints back. We will vehemently object to anything that smacks of newfangledness. And if, a few years later, when we have gotten used to the new, you decide to bring back something old - well then the old is new again so we'll object to that instead. Oh, and in case you were thinking about getting clever, no: if you go stagnant, we'll complain about stagnation. You really can't do anything right with us. Now shut up and take our money. "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |
deathboyjack
Pator Tech Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:18:00 -
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I am having a problem where my local, corp, alliance and other chat windows are getting stuck with no indicator on how many are in the channel, the text entry box has dissapeared and i see no indication on whom is in the channel. This is a problem that has only happened to me since retribution has came out. Plz fix this.
DBJ |
GiveMeATry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:18:00 -
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What are you thinking CCP. My T2 Torps no longer hit the large POS I'm suppose to shot tonight. Please stop making missile useless.
Do I Pettition? |
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
9
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:18:00 -
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I've never understood why the bookmark system was so cumbersome in the first place. It's probably one of the most used features in the game and it gets very little good attention. |
Glarbl Blarbl
Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau
23
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:19:00 -
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Steijn wrote:Glarbl Blarbl wrote:First off, I want to congratulate the Devs on pulling off a very ambitious expansion which runs on my hackintosh on day one! :D
I LOVE the new sounds! (now if i could only figure out why Eve has never recognized my mackie onyx blackbird as a place to send audio on the mac...) Also I am so happy that I don't have to give a window focus to scroll it anymore, YAY!! The target reticules look awesome :) Loving compact mode for market deliveries and the new streamlined repair dialog.
Some things I think should be tweaked: Make it so i can move the damage notifications around, as it is I'm spending a lot of time moving my camera so i can see the notifications and the action at the same time; Market deliveries doesn't remember that I want it open in the bottom-right corner every time I dock; (This doesn't belong here, but since I'm talking about tweaks) the mission status in the HUD should have the mission title in red while the objective is uncompleted and then turn green when it is.
That's all I've got for now. Thanks for all your hard work, guys :)
u can move the dmg notificatiions, from the notification/log window Ah, missed that one when I was messing w that menu. Thanks! |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:21:00 -
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deathboyjack wrote:I am having a problem where my local, corp, alliance and other chat windows are getting stuck with no indicator on how many are in the channel, the text entry box has dissapeared and i see no indication on whom is in the channel. This is a problem that has only happened to me since retribution has came out. Plz fix this.
DBJ
Hmmm - my convo's are opening one tab a time, very slowly. So are your perm missing or just opening very slowly?
Posted to issues as well since this is broken, not just an opinion
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DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
81
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:22:00 -
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That decision to enforce the mysterious previously-unknown limit of 1000 items per division in a CHA is not leading to a good playing experience. I would've appreciated a heads-up on that change. We could have given you feedback re: this being a headache when living at a POS, or even had a chance to figure out how to reconfigure our organizational scheme and roles to account for this. |
Porucznik Borewicz
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:23:00 -
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Lyr Rickh wrote:New targets are swanky, but is there any chance they can slim down a bit? Especially the vertical spacing between them. Used to be able to fit 5 targets vertically in the old position, now its only 3.
Niias wrote:Some new sounds are good...others really are...painful...and completely ruin my enjoyment of the game. 2 main ones that just made me close the game after half an hour were... A buzzer that sounds when you start combat. when it ends. when you jump. when you dock....quickly got annoying. And the main one is...when a ship pops, there's like a creepy drum sound. Also happens when you salvage a wreck that drops a container (if you dont loot the wreck before you salvage it)... Just every time a ship popped i heard this and it goes right through me every time... Anybody have any ideas of how to disable just these sounds? Since it's taken the game from being very enjoyable to intolerable and i dont want to end up playing with no sound...
These are the game breakers for me too. First of all, the locked target "bounce" animation. What exactly is it good for? EVE is a game witch UI is cluttered with information and flashy stuff already. The bounce animation of the targets make it even worse. It's so distracting it hurts.
The second thing are the new pop sounds (or sound rather). Every freaking time a new wrack or can is generated this metallic "KA-KLANG!" sound is being played. This gets uber annoying when running exploration / missions where something pops every freaking 20 seconds. And it is so loud! What was wrong with the bassy nice KA-BOOOOOSH! sound of the popping targets (I know it's still there, only the new jingle is so loud you almost don't hear it anymore)? Get rid of the freakish jingle or make it like half as loud CCP. Damn... The new sounds (jingles) are more of a miss. Don't like. |
Tharkunn
Luv You Long Time
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:24:00 -
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Chat window tabs are lagging out or not responding at all. Members not showing up in local or private channel windows. |
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