Thats a lot of patch notes

New mega skin is horrible, paint it "caldari colours" and it could easily pass as a caldari ship....gone are the voluptuous curves that was the hallmark of the megathron.

Jukebox seems to have disappeared, asked a couple of corpies who also said that couldnt find it....although i did read the patch notes i may have missed if is a known issue.

...cut...

2. All Drone ships are now obsolete due to new AI (your drones get targeted as soon as you deploy them)

I really don't like that now when I use the scroll wheel in the market for modifying prices, I HAVE to be with the cursor over the price box for it to work. (PC)

Who the f... changed the mousewheel settings so that it scrolls in the current window instead of the highlighted box?

Makes adjusting prices so slow...

"Scroll bars become active once the user hovers the area of their function which applies to both windows and tabs within windows"

This is a not a good change. Requires you to constantly move your mouse to the window/text box you want to scroll or you can end up scrolling a window in the background.

drones get shredded in lvl4's. no seriously, my drone domi is now even more of a pos.

"Scroll bars become active once the user hovers the area of their function which applies to both windows and tabs within windows"

This is a not a good change. Requires you to constantly move your mouse to the window/text box you want to scroll or you can end up scrolling a window in the background.

Have you tried managing rat aggro using the standard techniques of ewar and remote support?

doesn't work so well when your drones are 60+ km away and webbed, and everything not shooting at the drones is melting the t3 BC alt that came in the room second. hurr durr aggro control what?

It is a common feature in recent interfaces to only need to intersect the area you want to control with the mouse without the need to click it first. It also allows you to be able to control that area in more ways like moving items and scrolling at the same time as mentioned above. We realize this is a change to how EVE used to be but we are quite sure it is the way we would do it if we were releasing EVE for the first time today and this change is part of updating the EVE UI so that it can keep evolving to meet the needs of the majority of our players.

At least for the market guys this is hell.
LE: How many people need to complain?

Oh, and maybe a GÇ£place bountyGÇ¥ button to finally create a proper EVE-style GÇ£dislikeGÇ¥ button.

Blockade Runners are now immune to cargo scanners.

Does this apply to both kinds of transport ships? When I think of 'blockade runners' I have the variants with +2 warp strength in mind, eg the Occator. Will the 'cloaky hauler' variant (like Viator) also be unscannable?

Does this apply to both kinds of transport ships? When I think of 'blockade runners' I have the variants with +2 warp strength in mind, eg the Occator. Will the 'cloaky hauler' variant (like Viator) also be unscannable?

Does this apply to both kinds of transport ships? When I think of 'blockade runners' I have the variants with +2 warp strength in mind, eg the Occator. Will the 'cloaky hauler' variant (like Viator) also be unscannable?

Tnx for f#$%ing the game i love up, way to go CCP..

How did this happen?

removing can flipping, pods are killable if you flip a can, changed ship bonuses and slots?
way to go f#$%ing up the game we all love CCP, we are a big gang about ready to unsub cause of this patch beein so bad.
i mean im glad that its so noob friendly, but what about us that has played over 2 years??

again, Way to go F#$%ing up the game we USED to love..

Can I have your stuff?

Re-check. They edited post.

I thing is bugging me. Is the high pitch hissing sound that plays after I jump through a gate intentional or is there something wrong on my end? It's annoying as hell and I wish I could turn it off.
EDIT: The jump through sound (when someone else jumps through the gate and I'm just sitting near it) has the same "effect".

Other then that, great job with improving the Univ.Inv. and the new Minmatar models and textures look fantastic!

Yeah, I noticed. I feel the question still stands, though.

Canflipping can still happen GÇö it just requires new tactics. Ship improvements to make obsolete stuff more relevant. I'm not entirely sure this qualifies as GÇ£f#$%ing up the gameGÇ¥, unless that's some new colloquialism for making the game better on the wholeGǪ

No, they lost everything when they flipped a rookies can and got blown up and podded.

Yeah, I noticed. I feel the question still stands, though.

Canflipping can still happen GÇö it just requires new tactics. Ship improvements to make obsolete stuff more relevant. I'm not entirely sure this qualifies as GÇ£f#$%ing up the gameGÇ¥, unless that's some new colloquialism for making the game better on the wholeGǪ

It could also be their way of saying "I don't like it, it's not easy for me anymore! *stomp feet*"

The mission 'The Assault' is practically un-doable in its current state. Using a Vargur with all level 5 skills, and deadspace fitted, still couldn't do it. Why? Because of a number of things.

1) Whole 1st room now auto-aggros on warp in, dealing well over 2.5k DPS.
2) Serpentis now damp to hell. Most I've been dampened to by Serpentis was to 17km, couldn't even lock the frigates 2km from me.
3) When I could actually lock the frigates scramming, the drones were practically insta-popped by the NPC's.

It's probably the same with all Serpentis missions. So be careful on them.

CCP, fix this issue, little rediculous don't you think?

The mission 'The Assault' is practically un-doable in its current state. Using a Vargur with all level 5 skills, and deadspace fitted, still couldn't do it. Why? Because of a number of things.

1) Whole 1st room now auto-aggros on warp in, dealing well over 2.5k DPS.
2) Serpentis now damp to hell. Most I've been dampened to by Serpentis was to 17km, couldn't even lock the frigates 2km from me.
3) When I could actually lock the frigates scramming, the drones were practically insta-popped by the NPC's.

It's probably the same with all Serpentis missions. So be careful on them.

CCP, fix this issue, little rediculous don't you think?

just doing Blockade, not got any drone aggro but ive been careful, damping is now even worse than it was tho, much much worse.

Both these missions, IMO, are done best with a good compliment of drones, particularly The Blockade - engage the web tower with drones and just sit back, because everything else spawns way out of range anyway. Watch them closely, recall them when they start taking too much fire, unleash a second group (if you're packing one), or unleash the same one when the agros on you again. Rinse and repeat. Fit sensor boosters and signal amps, and guns that can track (I don't know why people insist on fighting frigs with medium or heavy guns).

The better AI and dampener buff means you have to rethink your tactics.

removing can flipping, pods are killable if you flip a can, changed ship bonuses and slots?
way to go f#$%ing up the game we all love CCP, we are a big gang about ready to unsub cause of this patch beein so bad.
i mean im glad that its so noob friendly, but what about us that has played over 2 years??

again, Way to go F#$%ing up the game we USED to love..

Both these missions, IMO, are done best with a good compliment of drones, particularly The Blockade - engage the web tower with drones and just sit back, because everything else spawns way out of range anyway. Watch them closely, recall them when they start taking too much fire, unleash a second group (if you're packing one), or unleash the same one when the agros on you again. Rinse and repeat. Fit sensor boosters and signal amps, and guns that can track (I don't know why people insist on fighting frigs with medium or heavy guns).

The better AI and dampener buff means you have to rethink your tactics.

sensor booster/signal amps have no effect, perma-damped to under 15

Marauders 5
Long Range Targetting 5
All AC spec 5

Put it this way, I do this mission heaps. I shoot the group furthest to the right hand side, it aggro's 2 pockets. The group I shot at, and the group directly to the left, leaving another 2 groups further to the left un-aggro'd, including the 4 heavy dampening cruisers. Yet I didn't shoot any and they all aggro'd.

As for the idiots going on about drones, what part of 'instapopped drones' do you not understand? Been playing this game for 5 years now, never seen a mission this screwed up.

Just because you can't target them at long range, doesn't mean your drones won't engage if they're set to aggressive when you get engaged.

But then they shoot the drones, so you recall them, then how are you supposed to have them engage the target once you re-launch them? They won't auto-attack until something new shoots the host ship, or if you can lock onto something, which you can't, because your damped to hell and back.

As for the idiots going on about drones, what part of 'instapopped drones' do you not understand?

Hurricane, why was the PG reduced? never realy saw why. now, with a 4% pg implant, I cann't use my pvp neut fit. max pg skills

Salvage drones don't work properly, or as I would expect. They don't automatically salvage the wrecks which is somewhat fine but the annoying thing is that the "Engage" keyboard shortcut doesn't work properly. You have to tell the drones to salvage through the right click menu rather then using a shortcut key. Can we get this fixed?

Just because you can't target them at long range, doesn't mean your drones won't engage if they're set to aggressive when you get engaged.

Le sigh - would you like me to come and do your mission for you?

Maybe all this means is you can't fly lvl4s solo anymore. What a shame.

It is a common feature in recent interfaces to only need to intersect the area you want to control with the mouse without the need to click it first. It also allows you to be able to control that area in more ways like moving items and scrolling at the same time as mentioned above. We realize this is a change to how EVE used to be but we are quite sure it is the way we would do it if we were releasing EVE for the first time today and this change is part of updating the EVE UI so that it can keep evolving to meet the needs of the majority of our players.

I just want to say, regarding the window-scroll changes, job well done - I was sick of hovering the mouse on one window to scroll and having another one entirely scroll instead. One of the handiest UI adjustments you've made.

Hurricane, why was the PG reduced? never realy saw why. now, with a 4% pg implant, I cann't use my pvp neut fit. max pg skills

Well then... you should probably be better at the game if that's the case.

Fit [...] guns that can track (I don't know why people insist on fighting frigs with medium or heavy guns).

But Minmatar need to be versatile to combat those evil amarrian haters :P

It still is. You can still fit it in a bajillion different ways and have it be good at doing just about anythingGǪ just not all at once.

There's a really annoying high pitched screech that plays apparently whenever something that starts a timer of some sorts happens. Whenever you shoot a rat, jump a gate or undock etc. there's the sound. I could live without the 5 second countdown sounds when a timer is running out, too.

I'm not quite sure if this is the correct thread for this but apparently this is intended behaviour so I posted this in here intead of the "EVE Online: Retribution 1.0 Issues" thread.

Also eve feels like its slightly more demanding on my cpu, anyone getting that?

Also eve feels like its slightly more demanding on my cpu, anyone getting that?

drones get shredded in lvl4's. no seriously, my drone domi is now even more of a pos.

Kinda funny, coming from the guy who also had this to say:


Is that the latest forum-warrior fashion? Fit small guns on a battleship to clear out frigates in missions?

Also eve feels like its slightly more demanding on my cpu, anyone getting that?

Drones kill frigs. Last I checked, battleships still have enough turret slots to fit heavies and smalls at the same time.

Not unexpected coming from a guy that can't adjust his playstyle to the new AI and needs CCP to nerf them to make it easy on him.

I'm just telling it like it is. If you wanted a flame war, you're outta luck. Why is it that whenever someone disagrees with someone on the internet, the person being disagreed with has to insist that they are being trolled?

Dealing with market order updates is now much more annoying, making dealing with .01isk'ers even worse than before.

When you choose modify order, the entire price is highlighted.

If you then click the magnifying glass to bring up that item in the market, then click back to the price field, the entire price is selected again.

I never want to change all digits in the price field, though! I almost always want to increment one digit to get me ahead of all the other orders.

To get my cursor to deselect the entire field, I need to _slow click_ twice (once to move focus to price field, once to deselect the price and get my cursor where I want it...and double clicking fast just reselects the whole price)

Updating a single digit of a price was already annoying because of the insertion and removal of commas, now it's much worse.

Yes, it's a little thing, but if you're a trader it comes up _so frequently_

I appreciate the sentiment behind the idea, and it probably works better for setting quantities, but for updating prices, it backfires.

bounty sys isnt so good (miner can now easyly be hunted down)

I don't have issue with the price being selected (highlighted) by default when "modify order"-window is opened first time. However price should not be reselected (highlighted) if the "modify order"-window gets reactivated. In other words if player has modified the selection of price field it should remain the same when players deactivates and reactivates the "modify order"-window.

Holy Patch Notes, Batman!!!

So far enjoying most of the new update, with the exception of the new targeting UI. The spherical area-of-influence around your targets is WAY too large. When running large missions or anamoly sites, all of these reds and circles and in-range "tick" marks, and such - it's far more confusing than it was. Also the scrolling combat log is an interesting idea, but it's still completely useless.

The simple fact of the matter is that I need to know I'm hitting things, and I can tell that by the increasing damage indicators on my targets. Other than that, I need to know what EWAR effects are active against me, and you guys have already addressed that pretty well.

I say shrink the targeted/firing-on-you/in-range-of-you "sphere" around each target by at LEAST 25% and give us the option to get rid of the combat log as now it's just a distraction.

The combat log can be removed, its under notifications and logs.

I can't find "Notifications and Logs" - is that in the escape menu?

My only feedback so far is that you need to get the web team on to put some EVE Gate integration of the new bounty system in place: GÇ£wantedGÇ¥ overlays on the forums, bounty information on the profile pages etc. Oh, and maybe a GÇ£place bountyGÇ¥ button to finally create a proper EVE-style GÇ£dislikeGÇ¥ button.

To get my cursor to deselect the entire field, I need to _slow click_ twice (once to move focus to price field, once to deselect the price and get my cursor where I want it...and double clicking fast just reselects the whole price).

Is my Navy Dominix now consigned to the dust-bin of history?

Why do I get the sinking feeling my dominix with

1) heavy drones on BS targets orbiting 30km just became useless.
2) Heavy maintenance bots for ded complexes just became useless or annoying to oversee.

Can anyone comment on the new AI changes with this setup?

It took a long ass time to train heavy drones man, they should have boosted the speed or something

What patch notes don't tell you:

EXPANSION ABOUT NERFS, Because Missiles were ok for 6 years now but now they're overpowered.

a.) PVE

1. All missile ships are now obsolete (very low range and decreased damage)
2. All Drone ships are now obsolete due to new AI (your drones get targeted as soon as you deploy them)
3. All ships that rely on drones for protection against frigates are obsolete
4. NPC's tracking disruptor now affects optimal range and falloff instead of just optimal range, which makes 800mm's minmatar ships obsolete in pve.
5. All npc complexes and ark missions are now insanely hard to do, you can't use drones
6. There are only few ships that can save you from mission if you loose all of your drones and get stuck (scrambled with npc agression).
7. New meta 9 - 14 drone modules are obsolete for pve, since ai will always shoot your drones.
8. If you use marauders or other ships for guristas missions you'll get perma jammed, there's nothing you can do since you can't use drones.

b). PVP
1. All Heavy Missile ships are now obsolete
2. Drake is worst battlecruiser for pvp
3. Hurricane got nerfed so it is kinda useless now
4. Tengu now sucks compared to other t-3's
5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets

Wait... just to make sure I got that right... the solution is to fit large and small turrets on your battleship, so you can clear out missions?

Ok, first off, the new UI, i like the looks of it, but can we please reduce the target icons a bit, fills up the screen a little more than i like. Minor issue.

Second, rat AI, way , way , way too aggressive towards drones

I had a suggestion few months ago:

NPC's don't aggro drones, but they aggro players.

But ccp didn't listen to me.

Yes because wouldn't it be awesome if the ai were so stupid it couldn't figure out that getting to a player who is keeping his distance and isn't firing a round at them might be less prudent than destroying the drones that are firing at them.

Wouldn't it be great if it rained candy apples and everything was made of chocolate and raspberries?

You think the ai is hard? Go fight some PvP, that outta shake you up a bit.

Gotta add to my previous comment...

The targeting icons at the top of the screen (default location) are ridiculously oversized, and I just realized that now the active modules (drones, missiles, ewar) are shown below the target, taking up even more space in an already-overcluttered UI.

I appreciate that you're trying to do something new, but the old "square" system wasn't broken. These new targeting spheres are so large that they're clipping with the "Agent Missions" text on the left side of the screen which can't even be moved - and that's BEFORE adding active module icons beneath them.

Did you guys never notice that? Surely you devs can fly SOMETHING with a max-targets of 10...

I guess we'll await Retribution 1.1...

[I'm not going to think of everything for you, k? It's your game, do it however you like

I'm not having this problem at all, but I'm playing on two very large monitors....

The point I'm trying to get across to you is that this is a completely ******** notion, and usually only new players even mention the idea. I'd try to explain how high the percentage of lost DPS per large turret is, but I seriously doubt you would understand it.

If the new NPC AI requires you to fit small turrets on a BS in any way, shape or form, it simply surmounts to absolutely horrid game-design.

If it doesn't require you to do that, then you should be slapped even twice as hard for mentioning the mere possibility.

Either way, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Which brings us back to how funny your comment on other people's abilities at playing EVE is.

Le sigh - would you like me to come and do your mission for you?

Maybe all this means is you can't fly lvl4s solo anymore. What a shame.

Erm, so am I...

Target 10 things and see what happens on the far left of the screen... I get the "minimize" icon for the Agent Missions text overlapping with my 8th or 9th target.

removing can flipping, pods are killable if you flip a can, changed ship bonuses and slots?
way to go f#$%ing up the game we all love CCP, we are a big gang about ready to unsub cause of this patch beein so bad.
i mean im glad that its so noob friendly, but what about us that has played over 2 years??

again, Way to go F#$%ing up the game we USED to love..

Yeah, not a problem here. All my menus and targeting is on the right monitor, everything else on the left is on a 32" display. The split occurs right on the left edge of my inventory and drone management boxes. Agent Missions appear under the system label in the far top left corner, and any route I have up gets moved down. As you can see, all my targets are lined up neatly on the far right running right to left from the "Selected Item" box. That's only 8 targets, but as you can see, it will fit at least two more on the same monitor quite easily and impede on nothing.

Confirmed for me too. THe sound also sounds like the disengage sound when my enemy stops attackign? I could be fooled by all the new sounds though. Seems a bit annoying for now, maybe I get used to that.

Second, with regard to the new Orca Fleet Hanger, I think it would be better if the buttons allowing the fleet and corp access to the hanger were on the LEFT hand side of the words "Fleet Hanger". During a mining operation the fleet hanger is constantly being clicked on for access and I find that I'm often clicking on those buttons and accidentally turning off access.

Ah - well that makes sense... My two screens are running two separate accounts - ratting on one, salvaging on the other. I suspect it's safe to say that your setup is not common. :)

I'm quite proud of it, actually, and I don't bother with an alt. There's enough multitasking going on running one character for me

I will say that the fact that a player such as yourself is compelled to use TWO screens for ONE character/account DOES somewhat support the opinion that maybe the UI is - in fact - a bit too cluttered, and that making existing UI icons bigger and more intrusive doesn't help matters. Can we agree on that at least?

I'm not having this problem at all, but I'm playing on two very large monitors....

Try with just 1

1 19" CRT monitor ...
or 1 14-15" laptop screen


i know *gasp* someone that doesnt have a 5000" plasma flatscreen to play games on. your absolutely right, they shouldn't be allowed to play "YOUR" eve online.

Seriously, I understand. But tracking matters - DPS doesn't mean crap if you can't hit anything with it. Horrid game design? Yes, because there is no possible way that fitting different kinds of guns to your ship should ever be necessary, even though it's completely possible and now, perhaps, a tactical priority. Just because it "isn't done" doesn't mean it isn't done.

But I have plenty of clue what I'm talking about. See, I do it plenty when running missions, and do it successfully. You're making silly assumptions about me that you don't actually know, so that's the first sign of elitism that I'm getting from you. But the problem is, you're facing a new situation, one you don't like, but that's your problem, and I'm too busy finishing the missions you're complaining about to care.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that people that do things differently to you don't know what they're talking about - I'm over here figuring out how to fight the new AI, while you're in here whining on the forums about them. So who's the newb now?

The answer is: You.

See, the difference between the two of us is - I understand that brain-dead game-design decisions do not require brain-dead workarounds.

I'll simply switch to a HAM Legion/Tengu and mission happily ever after, without having to worry about fitting small guns on a battleship. It's not a perfect solution with the TDs these days, but absolutely viable.

That I can work around stupid game design does not make it any less stupid, however. Nor does it make fitting small guns on a BS a good idea.
Curiously, this circumstance also serves to illustrate how horrible these mechanics really are. If you fit enough unbonused small guns on a BS to break the tank of Arch Gistii XYZ, your DPS is compromised so far that it is no longer a viable alternative to my Strategic Cruiser. It isn't a viable alternative because everyone who uses the Strategic Cruisers will make a ton more ISK than you do. If you want to compete with them (and I heard EVE is about competition), then you will have to switch to a Strategic Cruiser, too. Which renders every ship but Strategic Cruisers completely useless for missioning.

Mind you, I'm sure these issues will be fixed in due time, and so on and so forth, but your entire premise is just not viable in any way whatsoever.

How do you move the damage notifications?

How do you move the damage notifications?

1. Why letting everyone place bounties on everyone? After some time we will have everyone marked as "Wanted" because it is cheap thing to be done and because there are a lot of jerks (check Jita). Limit bounty placing to people that have kill rights or somehow suffered from actions of person that is getting price on his/her head.

The recruitment UI has some really undesirable changes in Retribution. Features that my recruitment staff and I used daily have been removed:

• Double clicking on an application does nothing (it used to open the application)


• Right click menu on an application has had functions stripped (used to be able to start a conversation or send a message from that menu)

What's the point of telling me that an application is unprocessed? There's a reason why it's in the queue. It's not like they stick around after they're processed anyway.

In the same way, why are the portraits larger now? It only makes for an even larger window, more scrolling to get to the application you need, and leaves lots of unnecessary blank space throughout the window. (There also appears to be a bug currently where the needlessly-large portraits don't even load in the Recruitment window.)

The filter box in the corner is a nice addition though, thanks for that.

having bounties alone don't make anyone a legal target!

At least for the market guys this is hell.
LE: How many people need to complain?

New targets are swanky, but is there any chance they can slim down a bit? Especially the vertical spacing between them. Used to be able to fit 5 targets vertically in the old position, now its only 3.

... how about train in pvp and goto pvp area noob

Yes because wouldn't it be awesome if the ai were so stupid it couldn't figure out that getting to a player who is keeping his distance and isn't firing a round at them might be less prudent than destroying the drones that are firing at them.

Wouldn't it be great if it rained candy apples and everything was made of chocolate and raspberries?

You think the ai is hard? Go fight some PvP, that outta shake you up a bit.

What patch notes don't tell you:

EXPANSION ABOUT NERFS, Because Missiles were ok for 6 years now but now they're overpowered.

a.) PVE

1. All missile ships are now obsolete (very low range and decreased damage)
2. All Drone ships are now obsolete due to new AI (your drones get targeted as soon as you deploy them)
3. All ships that rely on drones for protection against frigates are obsolete
4. NPC's tracking disruptor now affects optimal range and falloff instead of just optimal range, which makes 800mm's minmatar ships obsolete in pve.
5. All npc complexes and ark missions are now insanely hard to do, you can't use drones
6. There are only few ships that can save you from mission if you loose all of your drones and get stuck (scrambled with npc agression).
7. New meta 9 - 14 drone modules are obsolete for pve, since ai will always shoot your drones.
8. If you use marauders or other ships for guristas missions you'll get perma jammed, there's nothing you can do since you can't use drones.

b). PVP
1. All Heavy Missile ships are now obsolete
2. Drake is worst battlecruiser for pvp
3. Hurricane got nerfed so it is kinda useless now
4. Tengu now sucks compared to other t-3's
5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets

Lol - after a month of peaceful high-sec mining I now have a 1.000,000 isk bounty on my head and a big red "wanted" tag on my char info - apparently because my name begins with 'A'

[quote=Spc One]What patch notes don't tell you:



Heavy Missiles and Drake and Hurricane re-balancing are certainly going the right way. At least from a pvp point of view.

For my part its a big thumbs up on that balancing!!!

Insta agro (10 sec)from rats. Fun if you're in a BS/ orca/ freighter jumping around and have jamming rats (and not mention the 5min. timer every time)

Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.

I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.

Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM.

i did here:

5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets

I really don't like that now when I use the scroll wheel in the market for modifying prices, I HAVE to be with the cursor over the price box for it to work. (PC)

Le sigh - would you like me to come and do your mission for you?

Maybe all this means is you can't fly lvl4s solo anymore. What a shame.

First off, I want to congratulate the Devs on pulling off a very ambitious expansion which runs on my hackintosh on day one! :D

I LOVE the new sounds! (now if i could only figure out why Eve has never recognized my mackie onyx blackbird as a place to send audio on the mac...) Also I am so happy that I don't have to give a window focus to scroll it anymore, YAY!! The target reticules look awesome :) Loving compact mode for market deliveries and the new streamlined repair dialog.

Some things I think should be tweaked: Make it so i can move the damage notifications around, as it is I'm spending a lot of time moving my camera so i can see the notifications and the action at the same time; Market deliveries doesn't remember that I want it open in the bottom-right corner every time I dock; (This doesn't belong here, but since I'm talking about tweaks) the mission status in the HUD should have the mission title in red while the objective is uncompleted and then turn green when it is.

That's all I've got for now. Thanks for all your hard work, guys :)

It is a common feature in recent interfaces to only need to intersect the area you want to control with the mouse without the need to click it first. It also allows you to be able to control that area in more ways like moving items and scrolling at the same time as mentioned above. We realize this is a change to how EVE used to be but we are quite sure it is the way we would do it if we were releasing EVE for the first time today and this change is part of updating the EVE UI so that it can keep evolving to meet the needs of the majority of our players.

Just tried flying my Rattlesnake on an L4 mission. Rats started popping drones as soon as I let the drones out of the bay. Level V Drone Durability, Light Drones vs Frigates. Took about 1 second for the first drone to be into its structure.

Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.

I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.

I don't mind losing a drone occassionally. Happens. But if I'm going to lose one ever few seconds, before they can even get into engagement range with their targets, that's going to get expensive fast.

Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM.

OK ,

Hurricane, why was the PG reduced? never realy saw why. now, with a 4% pg implant, I cann't use my pvp neut fit. max pg skills
and can I get a refund on the drake I just bought? lol

The people who spend their time adjusting their market orders by 0.01 ISK every hour are obviously fond of torture, so why not torture them a little more?

Just tried flying my Rattlesnake on an L4 mission. Rats started popping drones as soon as I let the drones out of the bay. Level V Drone Durability, Light Drones vs Frigates. Took about 1 second for the first drone to be into its structure.

Essentially, new AI renders Rattlesnake useless as a mission ship. Not sure what else it was ever meant for, but I hope it's useful for whatever that might be.

I'll wait till it looks like drone boats are potentially useful in PvE again, then try again. Loved the Rattlesnake up till this morning.

I don't mind losing a drone occassionally. Happens. But if I'm going to lose one ever few seconds, before they can even get into engagement range with their targets, that's going to get expensive fast.

Read the dev blog about losing 2 or 3 in several missions. Doesn't match my experience this AM.

There's a really annoying high pitched screech that plays apparently whenever something that starts a timer of some sorts happens. Whenever you shoot a rat, jump a gate or undock etc. there's the sound. I could live without the 5 second countdown sounds when a timer is running out, too.

I'm not quite sure if this is the correct thread for this but apparently this is intended behaviour so I posted this in here intead of the "EVE Online: Retribution 1.0 Issues" thread.

This change affects a lot more than just missions. Incursions should be affected too.

I remember someone saying that if you use drones in wormholes, you need to use T1 and bring LOTS of spares. Is that what it's gonna come down to?

Hi, we're CCP, we would like you to know how awesome we are, so to show you, we are going to rehash and reimpliment old mechanics and features, as well as releasing content developed years ago, while calling it new and innovative, because we're not sure you realize just how awesome we are. We would also like to emphasize just how sleek and customizable everything we impliment is, it is so sleek that the buttons to customize it or turn off these new innovations are impossible to find because they are non existent. Please enjoy giving us more money as we continue to put less effort and money into this game for our upcoming liquidation of the EvE online franchise with the launch of Dust.

u can move the dmg notificatiions, from the notification/log window

I am having a problem where my local, corp, alliance and other chat windows are getting stuck with no indicator on how many are in the channel, the text entry box has dissapeared and i see no indication on whom is in the channel. This is a problem that has only happened to me since retribution has came out. Plz fix this.

DBJ

New targets are swanky, but is there any chance they can slim down a bit? Especially the vertical spacing between them. Used to be able to fit 5 targets vertically in the old position, now its only 3.

Some new sounds are good...others really are...painful...and completely ruin my enjoyment of the game.

2 main ones that just made me close the game after half an hour were...
A buzzer that sounds when you start combat. when it ends. when you jump. when you dock....quickly got annoying.

And the main one is...when a ship pops, there's like a creepy drum sound. Also happens when you salvage a wreck that drops a container (if you dont loot the wreck before you salvage it)...

Just every time a ship popped i heard this and it goes right through me every time...

Anybody have any ideas of how to disable just these sounds? Since it's taken the game from being very enjoyable to intolerable and i dont want to end up playing with no sound...

I've never understood why the bookmark system was so cumbersome in the first place. It's probably one of the most used features in the game and it gets very little good attention.