I'm quite a new pilot and just started level 2 missions with my shiny Omen. However after 2 missions I started to get missions with 2-3 ships that use tracking disruptors on me, this takes my weapons from 20-30km to 2-8km + I cannot hit them at that range.

My skills are not good enough for my drones to kill those ships that TD me :(


Had to quit the mission. My tank is fine, but I could not kill/hit them....

I filed a couple of bug reports.

Ive ran into near perma jam and definitely perma tracking disruption.

My bug reports were responded with "We are aware of this issue".


So i invested 3 days in PI skills to make some passive income while i train for missles/caldari ships.

Im really looking around at the moment and wondering if it was a mistake to come back to EVE. Besides graphics the game seems to be moving backward instead of forward.

same here... Sansha Missions like Blockade are like undoable.

TD effect still beeing applied to your ship however npc- module isn't active anymore can be confirmed as well.

Debuffs are only gone, when the target that using it invisibly is destroyed.


...filling bug report...

just ran 2 sansha blockades (lvl4 in lowsec), one in loki, the 2nd in my machariel, doesn't took longer than usual, just had to be a bit more carefull managing drones since they took aggro more often....


same regarding several anoms (combat ones with sanshas) still being TD but no more effect tan usual


maybe closing in and managing transversal speed could be the answer?

just ran 2 sansha blockades (lvl4 in lowsec), one in loki, the 2nd in my machariel, doesn't took longer than usual, just had to be a bit more carefull managing drones since they took aggro more often....


same regarding several anoms (combat ones with sanshas) still being TD but no more effect tan usual


maybe closing in and managing transversal speed could be the answer?

does sansha affect fall off at all if you have noticed? it seems alot of matar players are having no problem at all while us pulse/beam shooters cant hit afor beans

does sansha affect fall off at all if you have noticed? it seems alot of matar players are having no problem at all while us pulse/beam shooters cant hit afor beans

as far as i can tell, both range and tracking are affected, but i haven't noticed it affecting me as much as some describe here.

i do agree tho that in some occasion, the effect last even when no npc are TDing you tho (easy to notice when you remain TD in an empty room, and this is nothing to do with the cycle cause it last

Do you guys actually think, that CCP will change this? They simply just want MONEY! If you dont have 2 accos and good ships with good skills in them, YOU CAN-¦T DO lvl4 MISSIONS OR ANOMALYS IN THIS GAME! PERIOD!

So, how to solve this problem? Ok i-¦ll tell you guys. Start another acco and make it do battleship and fast! Laser or whatever you prefer. When you think this other fella is good enuff for fleeting with your current pilot, then go fleet with him and start popping those bastards for good. And remember...you have to buy plexes for this new fella (or both), with real money, if you dont have enuff ISK float to cover these accos. Thats a simple fact of a matter fellas. Deal with it.

Devs just cant get rich, when peoples pay for few months first and then start to use game income to pay for their playing. Mark my words fellas. But if you think that they just simply could take the possibility out from the game to pay your plex with ISK, then youre wrong. That happens to be the main structure of the game in the beginning. So that rules out that issue. They just cant do that. This is how to force players to pay plexes for real money longer period. Aint it beautiful? :D

Well guys. You just have to chew this situation for a while and then make a choice to start another acco or pay your current acco with real money forever. Or stop your career as a space pilot for good. Its your choice dudes. Yours only.

-Johannes Kastaja

If you dont have 2 accos and good ships with good skills in them, YOU CAN-¦T DO lvl4 MISSIONS OR ANOMALYS IN THIS GAME! PERIOD!

The issue with tracking disruption seriously needs to be high on the list of things to fix. I used to proudly fly my Apoc into Level 4 missions, but now it looks like the only thing capable of doing almost any Sansha-related Lvl 4 mission is a Raven.

This issue needs more publicity for sure, even though it has already received a good amount.

Since I'm a closet RPer playing for Amarr, I refuse to reship into another race to do my missions in Amarr space.

I got The Blockade L4 against Sansha last night. I knew the mission might be painful, or impossible due to tracking disruption, but I wanted to try anyway. :P

I tried the mission with a mega pulse Paladin. Using two 90% webs for stopping power to kill frigates without having to use drones.

First wave went down without problems, but the second wave has the group of elite ewar cruisers and they shut down my guns. I used three sentries and webs to kill the ones in range, but it was very slow. Even with drone interfacing 5, it took the navy Curators ages to kill one cruiser. I warped out and switched to navy gardes. Same thing. (I use navy sentries for their large HP boost, less chance to be popped quickly). The fast repping elite cruisers were just barely killable, and only if they were in web range. The problem is 3 of them orbit at like 30km, and my sentries just could not kill them at all. Out of desperation I warped out, and refit my ship with Mega Beam II's and a Micro Jump Drive. Warped back and jumped to 100-120km from the ships. I was then able to snipe them easily and cleared the mission.

I did learn a few things about the ewar cruisers there though.
If you jump out of range while your disrupted, the disruption will keep working until it times out normally. Then your free.
The first group of ewar cruisers had a range of about 80km.
Other ewar ships and the ewar battleships got me from as far as 89km.
My tracking dropped to .004 with megapulse, and as low as .0002 with mega beams.
Tracking disruption seems to max out at 90% reduction.

Yeah dear. And it takes so long time, that you have to consider loosing the mission.

So, The Blockade L4 against Sansha is doable with a gunboat, you just have to resort to 100km sniping and Micro Jump Drive tomfoolery.