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Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
3
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:10:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote: If this type of gameplay is allowed encourage then I should be allowed to shoot bombs in highsec and lowsec I feel this brings up an important question. Should the New Order be allowed to fire bombs in highsec? I think yes! they seem to like up close and personal attack on there targets mostly cause from what i've seen catalyst are cheaper to replace then a bomber. |
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:55:00 -
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Syaran wrote: I don't understand your argument really, all you see is black and white, is there no grey in your world? There's a middle ground between 'high-sec 100% safe-' and '100% unsafe'. This middle ground is where the game is currently, meaning both sides have the opportunity to enjoy the kind of gameplay they want. It's still a multiplayer game though, so yes, you might occasionally encounter someone who wants to play the game in a way different from your own.
I'm starting to feel like a broken record here...
One must repeat oneself when explaining simple concepts to cary bears - subtlety eludes them. |
Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
232
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:59:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Syaran wrote:Eyana Starstruck wrote:Well their kills do not range in billions, their kills are mostly around 200-250mil, bot capsules are usually worthless, by that meaning that most bot users will not plug their bot toons with expensive implants.
I don't disagree with the attacking of the bots, that is against the rules and that should be punished, however I do disagree with them targeting players that are at keyboards and extorting Isk from them. If they killed 1 non bot in 100 kills, for the reason of getting rid of bots, it is one to many.
You're forgetting something. Something that's been said over and over again but you conveniently choose to ignore it. Your way of playing this game is NOT the only one. High-sec is NOT safe, only safer. Every time you undock, you run the risk of losing whatever you undocked. If they are not completely on the straight and narrow...well that's eve for you. Personally, having once been part of a pirate corp, I know that it's not at all easy to keep a leash on pirates that are hungry for blood. In the end, all I see here is a bunch of people trying to have their own brand of fun. It's obviously not your brand of fun but it is still well within the boundaries of this sandbox world we all choose to dwell in. We all have our opinions on how this game should be, but that doesn't change the rules of the game in any way. The options open to people here are very clear and very limited: either deal with this aspect of the way you chose to play this game, or avoid it. Losing stuff is a part of EVE, if it wasn't your very way of playing the game would not be viable, as there would be little to no demand for the ore you mine. (Incidentally, I'm not a part of this New Order in any way, I'm just amused by what they do and I enjoy a good discussion. Unfortunately it seems you are unwilling to entertain the thought that there might be other ways of viewing this issue that are just as legitimate if not even more legitimate than your own. That makes it hard to have a good discussion...) If this type of gameplay is allowed encourage then I should be allowed to shoot bombs in highsec and lowsec You can. Just the repercussion of that is you might get concorded. really i was under the impression from a corp member that ccp had a thing that bombers couldn't launch there payload at all in high or low sec only null? If this is not the case then NO agents and knights and I need to have a chat someday. lol
Oh, you mean like from a stealth bomber. Smartbombs are done, erroneously, in belts all the time. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |
Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
232
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Posted - 2013.01.21 19:00:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Oh, but bumping expressly isallowed and as for ganking, there's never been any question about it. im not talking about whether its allowed or not, but to say its sanction gives the idea that CCP personally came to you guys saying to go out and kill afk miners in Highsec. Which we all know full well they would never do.
CCP doesn't tell you to go out and mine either.
They leave the decisions up to you. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |
Agent Trask
Aliastra Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.01.21 20:13:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote: im not talking about whether its allowed or not, but to say its sanction gives the idea that CCP personally came to you guys saying to go out and kill afk miners in Highsec. Which we all know full well they would never do.
CCP has personally sanctioned highsec ganking for whatever reason the Ganker desires.
In fact, they advertized their newest tier 3 battlecruisers as ganking platforms in the adverts leading up to the release of Inferno.
CCP has more than endorsed ganking of inattentive players in highsec, for either loot, or pure tears. In fact, adding implants to kill mails did absolutely nothing but enhance tear collections.
No, CCP has never contacted us and said " Start gankin' them miners". But they have repeatedly supported all haihgsec ganking in the past. Do not hold your breath waiting for CCP to reverse this position.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |
Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
155
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Posted - 2013.01.21 23:25:00 -
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I fully endorse and desire the implementation of letting SB's use their bombs in Hisec..:)
CCP, make it so. Thousands of players are with me on this.
I also want to see bubbles too.
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Alana Charen-Teng
Evolution Is Just A Theory
212
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:07:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:I fully endorse and desire the implementation of letting SB's use their bombs in Hisec..:) CCP, make it so. Thousands of players are with me on this. I also want to see bubbles too. Suicide interdictors and suicide bombers in highsec... that's going to be a lot of dead exhumers!
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:It is amusing that this thread has lasted three weeks longer than the Tolero Guard itself. I intend to see it last longer than three weeks! |
Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
3
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Posted - 2013.01.22 13:32:00 -
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Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:I fully endorse and desire the implementation of letting SB's use their bombs in Hisec..:) CCP, make it so. Thousands of players are with me on this. I also want to see bubbles too. Suicide interdictors and suicide bombers in highsec... that's going to be a lot of dead exhumers! Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:It is amusing that this thread has lasted three weeks longer than the Tolero Guard itself. It will last a while longer! I thought that would make you guys happy |
Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
241
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Posted - 2013.01.22 18:51:00 -
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Eyana Starstruck wrote:Well their kills do not range in billions, their kills are mostly around 200-250mil, bot capsules are usually worthless, by that meaning that most bot users will not plug their bot toons with expensive implants.
I don't disagree with the attacking of the bots, that is against the rules and that should be punished, however I do disagree with them targeting players that are at keyboards and extorting Isk from them. If they killed 1 non bot in 100 kills, for the reason of getting rid of bots, it is one to many.
Again, check their killboard if you do not wish to take my word for it.
And you don't need to agree with it. It's a valid game mechanic. You yourself even mentioned that the miner who did get popped was reimbursed. By all means, argue with pirates if it makes you feel better once they blow you up after you have paid a ransom. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |
Alana Charen-Teng
Evolution Is Just A Theory
223
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Posted - 2013.01.23 05:41:00 -
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Agent's Log - Jan 23, YC whatever
Dear Diary,
Today, Deninard was positively rife with bot-aspirancy. AFK miners littered the icebelt, with nary a word spoken in Local. I arrived just in time to enforce the Code with my Amazing Stabber. Many miners were bumped out of range, because the Code is worth fighting for! An angry miner challenged me to a duel, but since he was unable to pass any of the proper Tests, he was unworthy of my time. I have noticed a new trend, of late - rebel miners have begun moving away from careers in Space Law, in favor of careers in Space Psychology. Chat logs follow.
Alana Charen-Teng > I try and I try... but miners still don't get it. castle2 keep > no i refuse to pay EXTORSON Rueger Aideron > as everyone should Alana Charen-Teng > Luckily for you, this isn't Extortion. Think of it as a tax for the public good. Vincent Viehlmasky > that does the public no good at all Rueger Aideron > spoken just like an extortionist castle2 keep > tax is from ccp ur a cult Alana Charen-Teng > Rueger AideronSpoken just like a tax dodger! Rueger Aideron > taxes can only be collected by lawful authority Alana Charen-Teng > Rueger Aideron That's exactly what the New Order is! Hello! Vincent Viehlmasky > not even close to being that Rueger Aideron > yeah that is why all enforcer are criminal Alana Charen-Teng > Well.. it's kind of like how Batman is technically an outlaw. > But he's the Good Guy.
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Vincent Viehlmasky > you do what you do to line your own pockets and boost your obviously failing self esteem > how hard is that to admit to? Alana Charen-Teng > Vincent Viehlmasky Do you reperesent a new breed of Space Psychologist? > Because I question the quality of your credentials.
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Jean Pelletier > Batman doesn't hijack trucks or kill miners, he kicks ass on egomaniacal guys that think they are above the law Alana Charen-Teng > Jean Pelletier We don't hijack trucks, we kick the proverbial butts of rebel miners who think they're above the Code. Vincent Viehlmasky > and who are you to set "code"? Alana Charen-Teng > Vincent Viehlmasky We are the democratically-elected government of Highsec. Where have you been? Vincent Viehlmasky > Alana Charen-Teng check again. no one elected you to do anything. you clearly need to get off the drugs Alana Charen-Teng > Vincent Viehlmasky Your word against the Supreme Protector's? I think I know who I'll trust! Vincent Viehlmasky > Alana Charen-Teng put down the crack pipe already
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Mako5 > NoseCandy you do it to your self, name like nosecandy must be a loser , lol Alana Charen-Teng > Mako5 There you go projecting yourself onto others again Mako5 > ME , lol you are the one thats trying to project your ***** leader onto others , I am only trying to show them that somebody is forming against you and all your kind, we want freedom, not ransom Alana Charen-Teng > Mako5 Whoa - never argue with a space psychologist! > I didn't realize Batman and Tarzan were *****... castle2 keep > o its the voices in ur head Alana Charen-Teng its ok they have meds for ur head Alana Charen-Teng > castle2 keep space psychiatry, too! > castle2 keep Is there anything you can't do? Mako5 > James 315, sounds just like ****** , cant you guys think for your self and stop carring out HIS OREDRS castle2 keep > lol he dent make the system ccp did |
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Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.23 15:47:00 -
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poor deluded NO Agents and Knights Will they never se the error of there Gankster ways. |
Agent Trask
Aliastra Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:19:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote:poor deluded NO Agents and Knights Will they never se the error of there Gankster ways.
How are we deluded?
We continue to collect fees from smart miners who emulate Gallant. We continue to gank dumb miners that emulate Goofus.
Our ISK efficiency is outstanding.
We are doing exactly what we set out to do, clean up highsec. And no amount of miner's tears will stop us.
Do keep crying. It lets the smarter miners realize that Permit tank is the best tank.
The Code is the only way. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |
Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.24 00:31:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote:poor deluded NO Agents and Knights Will they never se the error of there Gankster ways. How are we deluded? We continue to collect fees from smart miners who emulate Gallant. We continue to gank dumb miners that emulate Goofus. Our ISK efficiency is outstanding. We are doing exactly what we set out to do, clean up highsec. And no amount of miner's tears will stop us. Do keep crying. It lets the smarter miners realize that Permit tank is the best tank. The Code is the only way.
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Alana Charen-Teng
Evolution Is Just A Theory
225
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Posted - 2013.01.24 07:39:00 -
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Don't make me bring out my bumping typhoon!!! |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
415
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Posted - 2013.01.24 10:31:00 -
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Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Don't make me bring out my bumping typhoon!!!
I'm not sure highsec is ready for the epicness of your highslots on that fit. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:42:00 -
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Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Don't make me bring out my bumping typhoon!!! Wow threats now . Hum must of hit a nerve lol |
Scaramanga Erquilenne
43
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Posted - 2013.01.24 15:27:00 -
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I am just 4 months in to eve and i come very close to getting ganked by the new order a month ago. I can ill afford to lose my ship and i struggle to make isk in this game and was annoyed that some one is trying to tax me to mine in high sec .
I spat my dummy out on this thread as i thought it was just not right at the time.I waited to see a response from some high sec mining corps and more experienced players but seems no one stood up to them and no front was launched as far as i can see, i would of got involved in it out of my annoyance with the new order.But it turned out to be more like the jewdian people's front fighting the Romans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE,
After a few more hours of soul destroying mining i come to the conclusion that most people must be using a Alt are AFK to mine for more than a hour a day while remaining sane.Now i see allot more miners escorted by protection while mining and maybe paying a bit more attention.
And i see the new order for what it is , A group of players making some in game content and a story and god if one place ever needed it its a high sec mining site , so now i am more than happy to pay for the permit for no other reason than they brought some content to a place that had none You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.01.24 16:02:00 -
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Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:I am just 4 months in to eve and i come very close to getting ganked by the new order a month ago. I can ill afford to lose my ship and i struggle to make isk in this game and was annoyed that some one is trying to tax me to mine in high sec . I spat my dummy out on this thread as i thought it was just not right at the time.I waited to see a response from some high sec mining corps and more experienced players but seems few players stood up to them and no front was launched as far as i can see, i would of got involved in it out of my annoyance with the new order.But it turned out to be more like the judea people's front fighting the Romans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE,After a few more hours of soul destroying mining i come to the conclusion that most people must be using a Alt are AFK to mine for more than a hour a day while remaining sane.Now i see allot more miners escorted by protection while mining and maybe paying a bit more attention. And i see the new order for what it is , A group of players making some in game content and a story and god if one place ever needed it its a high sec mining site , so now i am more than happy to pay for the permit for no other reason than they brought some content to a place that had none
Observe, a bumper alt posing as a miner to spin a story in order to "assure" CCP that their "content" is good for the game and that new players actually like being harassed.
Filthy undesirables... |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
767
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Posted - 2013.01.24 16:08:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Observe, a bumper alt posing as a miner to spin a story in order to "assure" CCP that their "content" is good for the game and that new players actually like being harassed.
Filthy undesirables... Observe, another bumper alt posing as a rebel in order to bump the miner bumping thread and raise awareness.
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Scaramanga Erquilenne
43
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Posted - 2013.01.24 16:14:00 -
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All you have to do is check my posts and its plain to see i am not a alt and i cant afford a alt. I just know high sec mining is just about the most boring thing i have done in 4 months of eve.And the New Order is one of the few active storys i have come across in high sec , Outside of people playing station docking games and trying to bait new players with a suspect flag. You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
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Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.24 17:11:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:I am just 4 months in to eve and i come very close to getting ganked by the new order a month ago. I can ill afford to lose my ship and i struggle to make isk in this game and was annoyed that some one is trying to tax me to mine in high sec . I spat my dummy out on this thread as i thought it was just not right at the time.I waited to see a response from some high sec mining corps and more experienced players but seems few players stood up to them and no front was launched as far as i can see, i would of got involved in it out of my annoyance with the new order.But it turned out to be more like the judea people's front fighting the Romans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE,After a few more hours of soul destroying mining i come to the conclusion that most people must be using a Alt are AFK to mine for more than a hour a day while remaining sane.Now i see allot more miners escorted by protection while mining and maybe paying a bit more attention. And i see the new order for what it is , A group of players making some in game content and a story and god if one place ever needed it its a high sec mining site , so now i am more than happy to pay for the permit for no other reason than they brought some content to a place that had none Observe, a bumper alt posing as a miner to spin a story in order to "assure" CCP that their "content" is good for the game and that new players actually like being harassed. Filthy undesirables... or another sheep lead to the slaughter house |
Agent Trask
Aliastra Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.01.24 17:45:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote: The fact that you believe that by extorting miners to mine in peace and enforcing a code that isn't acknowledge by the empires that proves that your deluded. For me to be crying i would have had to be first have been killed by your group which if you check your kill boards you will not find my name among them.
Good quality tears there.
Thanx!
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |
Alana Charen-Teng
Evolution Is Just A Theory
226
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:03:00 -
[653] - Quote
Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Alana Charen-Teng wrote:Don't make me bring out my bumping typhoon!!! Wow threats now . Hum must of hit a nerve lol Now you're really asking for it!!!! |
Alana Charen-Teng
Evolution Is Just A Theory
226
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Posted - 2013.01.24 18:09:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote: Observe, a bumper alt posing as a miner to spin a story in order to "assure" CCP that their "content" is good for the game and that new players actually like being harassed.
Filthy undesirables...
Tali Ambraelle is my alt. Filthy undesirables... |
Jonah Gravenstein
The Burning Lotus
5175
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:31:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote: Filthy undesirables...
That's filthy belligerent undesirable to you
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |
Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:06:00 -
[656] - Quote
Agent Trask wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote: The fact that you believe that by extorting miners to mine in peace and enforcing a code that isn't acknowledge by the empires that proves that your deluded. For me to be crying i would have had to be first have been killed by your group which if you check your kill boards you will not find my name among them.
Good quality tears there. Thanx! you guys really need to look up the definitions of crying and tears apparently |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2137
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Posted - 2013.01.25 03:33:00 -
[657] - Quote
Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Agent Trask wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote: The fact that you believe that by extorting miners to mine in peace and enforcing a code that isn't acknowledge by the empires that proves that your deluded. For me to be crying i would have had to be first have been killed by your group which if you check your kill boards you will not find my name among them.
Good quality tears there. Thanx! you guys really need to look up the definitions of crying and tears apparently
Virtual crying & tears: Funnier than real crying & tears (unless they're doing it on teamspeak after you blew something up, then it's utterly hilarious). The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |
Draco Starfire
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.25 07:46:00 -
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it constantly amazes/baffles me how many people can't see how obviously hilarious Miner Bumping is. All these people foaming at the mouth about how deluded the NO is; James having a god complex or psychological disorder; deranged cultists; Goons conspiracy theory. My god, way to complicate the crap out of something that just isn't difficult to understand.
Long live the New Order |
Singular Snowflake
New Order Logistics CODE.
74
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:19:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote:Agent Trask wrote:Emperor Crash Zues wrote: The fact that you believe that by extorting miners to mine in peace and enforcing a code that isn't acknowledge by the empires that proves that your deluded. For me to be crying i would have had to be first have been killed by your group which if you check your kill boards you will not find my name among them.
Good quality tears there. Thanx! you guys really need to look up the definitions of crying and tears apparently No need, you you provide us with a great example! Please do go on. |
Rip Rap
Eagleburst Security Corporation Astral Knights
0
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:29:00 -
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Thugs .. running a protection racket. Nothing more.
A page right out of Chicago in the 1930's.
Thing is .. turns out they weren't invulnerable, either.
As for that whole 'bend others to your will' thing .. There are always the weak and gullible to prey on.
That's what defines 'Thug'
The content you are 'creating' is nothing new in MMO's or real life. You will last until a majority decides you won't.
It is just that simple.
-Rip Rap .. 3 days in EVE and counting and already reminded of Ulitma Online gameplay in the early days. |
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