If CCP nerfs hisec, what have the hisec dwellers/industrialists got left

A lot of other space to do business in. High-sec should be left to new players and the little coddled children who can't handle conflict in a PvP game.

it should be that high sec missions are run just for the standings, so pilots can travel through unmolested on their way back to jita. no LP or ISK rewards and bonus.

AND standings degrade over time... so you have to return to repair standings with missions periodically.

like going to the DMV or filing taxes, something that everyone has to do.

As I said elsewhere , many people play EVE to relax, manufacture stuff, hang out with friends, not to have an FC yelling at them for allegedly making the team lose a PVP match. If forced to PVP, many would rather leave.

Sure this has to be done carefully though, imprudently nerf hisec mining for example, and inflation will skyrocket, and people will whine about plex prices going to a Billion possibly.

I think this "ring-mining" will help rebalance mining and the POS rework will help with industry (and hopefully reduce the allowed size of POSes in high-sec), but station services in high-sec also need a serious looking-into; they're simply too good for how many there are in near-safety. L4s also need to be looked into, as well as incursions; IMO they should both be removed from high-sec but whatever. Then exploration, L3s, and mining should be balanced to provide roughly the same "grind" income.

No matter what I think, though, at the end of the day CCP will be making the decisions. All the players can do is quibble and troll over what they think is best.

[quote=Peter Raptor]Sure this has to be done carefully though, imprudently nerf hisec mining for example, and inflation will skyrocket, and people will whine about plex prices going to a Billion possibly.

As I said elsewhere , many people play EVE to relax, manufacture stuff, hang out with friends, not to have an FC yelling at them for allegedly making the team lose a PVP match. If forced to PVP, many would rather leave.

Personally I hope they don't put size restrictions on POSs any where, player owned should be better than NPC anywhere and there is no real need to butcher hi-sec to make other areas seem better, however player owned should look better than NPC supplied.

it should be that high sec missions are run just for the standings, so pilots can travel through unmolested on their way back to jita. no LP or ISK rewards and bonus.

AND standings degrade over time... so you have to return to repair standings with missions periodically.

like going to the DMV or filing taxes, something that everyone has to do.

As I said elsewhere , many people play EVE to relax, manufacture stuff, hang out with friends, not to have an FC yelling at them for allegedly making the team lose a PVP match. If forced to PVP, many would rather leave.

This thread sucks.

This thread sucks.

Confirming, no one likes EMO raging FC's spamming alliance crying for more Logi's, furthermore people are tired of CTA online

it should be that high sec missions are run just for the standings, so pilots can travel through unmolested on their way back to jita. no LP or ISK rewards and bonus.

AND standings degrade over time... so you have to return to repair standings with missions periodically.

like going to the DMV or filing taxes, something that everyone has to do.

Sure this has to be done carefully though, imprudently nerf hisec mining for example, and inflation will skyrocket, and people will whine about plex prices going to a Billion possibly.

uh, what

people run missions for ISK and LP, not for standings

It is Null sec that needs to be Buffed somehow, cos if you nerf the daylights outta High sec, people will have little choice but to

leave, and we'll get the same lousy player numbers as during the last unending Hulkaggeddon before the Mining Barge Buff.

You can't force someone to play the way you want to play.

However, you can entice players to play like you.

However, if you buff null sec and implement more content to give players more of a reason to leave hi sec you might have a better chance in getting a higher population in null.

Why don't we have a persistent ongoing arena system. Where you can queue up in your pos or npc dock? Like an 8 pilot/16 pilot random setup? Or a pre-made fleet 8 pilot/16pilot arena teams?

Why don't we have generic mission givers in pos's in null?

Can we make null a little more new player friendly? Hell my corp/alliance is a null sec corp/alliance and if it wasn't for them holding my hand I would happily stay in hi sec.

it should be that high sec missions are run just for the standings, so pilots can travel through unmolested on their way back to jita. no LP or ISK rewards and bonus.

AND standings degrade over time... so you have to return to repair standings with missions periodically.

like going to the DMV or filing taxes, something that everyone has to do.

However, if you buff null sec and implement more content to give players more of a reason to leave hi sec you might have a better chance in getting a higher population in null.

Why don't we have a persistent ongoing arena system. Where you can queue up in your pos or npc dock? Like an 8 pilot/16 pilot random setup? Or a pre-made fleet 8 pilot/16pilot arena teams?

Why don't we have generic mission givers in pos's in null?

Is it possible to give certain systems a buff for say mining yield. While mining in this system you get X amount percentage increase in yield?

^ You can just overly buff null sec, without nerfing hi sec first.

Of course that will probably act as a nerf to hi sec. But there would be no initial nerf first.

Also if this game is a sandbox, why nerf hi sec, or buff null then?