So, if I read this correctly, which is unlikely.....

New player gets a plex to sell, gets scammed by some player.....

Technically, the scammer stole $15 from a kid, I wonder if it's actionable as petty theft?

What's the guy called? I will help him.

What's the guy called? I will bounty him.

I hope you're trolling. By that way of thinking, every time someone blows up my ship I can take legal action against them. Derp

I feel sorry for the guy if(pretty big if)he's telling the truth, but scamming is part of the game. Also, it's not that hard to figure out that if you're putting a plex in a trade window, and the isk amount the other character has put in is ZERO, you probably shouldn't be expecting to get paid.

It's not CCP's or anyone's responsibility to make sure that people don't do stupid ****. By clicking accept on the trade window you are accepting whatever is in that exchange window. Same with the market, same with contracts.

If i were the OP, and I truly felt bad about what happened and new the person to be telling the truth, I'd just buy them a plex and show the other side of the EVE community to them.

Okay, so anyone who is a kid that wants to sell a PLEX his mom got him is a noob. Is there anyone else that is a noob? How can you confirm that this person is a kid? Most kids online are instructed to not tell anyone they're a kid. And if kids are going to get special consideration, what's to prevent someone like me from pretending to be a kid?

The kid left and his name got lost in the help scroll. He is one case and I feel bad about that, but giving him isk wont fix what is a problem.

PLEX is not like other in game items, it needs different management tools is all.

I was trying to stealthily get his name to do just that (20 million or so) and didn't get a name, since you stated why you wanted his name you will get a ton of people just trying to get free isk. Moot point now.

I have found the flaw in your logic chain. The above statement is incorrect.

PLEX is an in-game virtual item...just like a 1MN Afterburner.

KB

Well I can detect bullshits at 20 yards and didn't specify what the help was did I?

Would it affect your game negatively if PLEX were changed from an in game item to one that is managed from accounts? I think that would solve a lot of problems.

I mean that I am good at filtering bullshits in regard to your aformentioned concern that as I had proffered help to the individual I would get "it was me" begging attempts.

Don't worry about me - worry about our games poor newbs!

I have lost 40 000 000 ISK in the first 14 days of this game to a scam. No one gave a **** about that, and me either. HTFU and L2P. Pirate tricked me into attacking his little ship and he got back with friends, he said he will stop shoting my ship for 300 000 000 ISK, and i believed, he grabbed the money and destroyed ship worth 500 000 000 ISK, I was like, oh well, better never do that again.

Will you cry?

Will you give me ISK?

Hold on, I don't need it, and never will. I have been like HTFU, and it worked.

Yes it would.

Would it affect your game negatively if PLEX were changed from an in game item to one that is managed from accounts? I think that would solve a lot of problems.

But what if the pirate said "send me 40$ via paypal or I will blow up your ship!"

Some kid was just on help saying that he tried to sell a PLEX and another player convod him and got the kid to just do an in station swap. Is that frowned upon? And does CCP do anything to discourage it?

Just curious, I felt kind of bad about the story. The kid was like "my mom bought it for my birthday =-(

It was awful!

Wouldn't affect MY game one iota. However, I am not the type of person to request widespread, fundamental game changes in order to accomodate a handful of players who cannot fend for themselves.

KB

Was I the only one who thought perhaps this kid was scamming all of help chat....?

I would give him my middle finger. Real money is real money. And i learned, that you don't have real money in this game, even PLEX isn't real money. Its game item and can be traded, you can steal it, you can do everything with it in game, but you can't exchange it for money. It would be RMT.


PLEX is game item, not money, deal with it. The whole game is just what it is - a game, and i realised it when the pirate looked for loot in my wreck. The whole point to HTFU is to do what you want despite the problems, to think and stay vigilant, to achieve your goal in game finally. RW is real money, PLEX is just game item.

This is a forum thread with a few hundred hits, it is hardly a venue with a lot of weight behind it.

I am bothered by an in game dynamic that I feel would be better managed out of game. And wanted to talk a bit about it. If I could press a button right now and make the changes that I have suggested I would not do it. I have no clue how things work at CCP or how you would go about implementing such a change, or what the effects of that change would be.

I spout ideas and analyze them with other players because I enjoy doing so, not because I expect CCP to copy all of them down and have them implemented by the next patch.

It would be great If a mod or dev reads this and thinks 'well maybe it is something we should look at." But I'm not going to stop playing if they don't.

I get what you mean, but PLEX used to have a "special" status and CCP made the decision to relegate them to "in-game item" and I figure they did all of the legal and financial analysis necessary when they made that choice.

KB

Fair enough. Would you have any problems if PLEX were removed as an in game item? Assuming that there is another way to use ISK to pay for game time.

Wouldn't affect MY game one iota. However, I am not the type of person to request widespread, fundamental game changes in order to accomodate a handful of players who cannot fend for themselves.