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Brutus King
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:12:00 -
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Remove PLEX. They've made Eve p2w anyway. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
941
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:14:00 -
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Just because you can, does not mean you should.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2138
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:17:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Anyway, using the excuse that eve online is a niche game is false.
Alot of succesfull games have sandbox elements, im not saying the low subscription numbers are only because of the unfriendly attitude towards new players.
However its a big factor as to why new players would easily stop playing the game ones they had a bad experience at the start.
It really is a niche game. These 'successful games' you speak of have one thing in common; They're designed for the masses. Funnily enough, EVE is a successful game that isn't designed for the masses. This isn't a bad thing.
The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |
dexington
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:It took 3 nados to take down a well tanked hulk before the patch, 5 for a supertank. Needless to say that it was massivly unprofitable to do that so it ever happened outside of hulkageddon and even then it was the very last target you would go for.
You think it should be profitable to gank each an every ship in hi-sec?, don't know if you are just clueless, naive or trolling...
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
3527
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:27:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:'Cause the omniscient CIA word-recognition software detected the words "scamming new players"?
No, but TERRORISM I bet they can PHYSICS PACKAGE tell when WMD people OSAMA use other certain JIHAD keywords in their HEU posts.
See, now that I've guaranteed that they'll see the thread, the fact that they won't do anything about it is proof that they don't care and CCP shouldn't make scamming with PLEX a bannable offense.
I win.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
941
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:29:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:'Cause the omniscient CIA word-recognition software detected the words "scamming new players"? No, but TERRORISM I bet they can PHYSICS PACKAGE tell when WMD people OSAMA use other certain JIHAD keywords in their HEU posts. See, now that I've guaranteed that they'll see the thread, the fact that they won't do anything about it is proof that they don't care and CCP shouldn't make scamming with PLEX a bannable offense. I win.
You missed the word - bomb
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
3527
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:33:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:'Cause the omniscient CIA word-recognition software detected the words "scamming new players"? No, but TERRORISM I bet they can PHYSICS PACKAGE tell when WMD people OSAMA use other certain JIHAD keywords in their HEU posts. See, now that I've guaranteed that they'll see the thread, the fact that they won't do anything about it is proof that they don't care and CCP shouldn't make scamming with PLEX a bannable offense. I win. You missed the word - bomb
I used three separate words with very close connections to the most destructive of such devices in existence. That ought to get their attention. 
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
baltec1
Bat Country
4907
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Posted - 2013.01.25 08:58:00 -
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dexington wrote:baltec1 wrote:It took 3 nados to take down a well tanked hulk before the patch, 5 for a supertank. Needless to say that it was massivly unprofitable to do that so it ever happened outside of hulkageddon and even then it was the very last target you would go for. You think it should be profitable to gank each an every ship in hi-sec?, don't know if you are just clueless, naive or trolling...
It is currently profitable to kill most ships if they fit t2 mods and no tank. If has always been this way. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
758
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Posted - 2013.01.25 09:51:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Sitting in the official helpchat and scamming noobs who seek help ... that's really low, even for EvE players ...
And when Solstice Project says you've gone too far off the deep end of being evil... that should be a pretty clear sign.
EvE Forum Bingo |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
R O G U E
185
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Posted - 2013.01.25 09:57:00 -
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well guess its one way to learn how harsh this game is. bit much but this is how **** is. |
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Chenlab Delta
Wise Guys
Tribal Band
10
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:06:00 -
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Send him my way if hes giving out free plex
thanks in advance |
ChaseX
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
0
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:21:00 -
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Maybe the kid shouldn't play EVE at all and what the heck is going on if you get a PLEX from your mom to birthday or something. Jesus go play outside when you are a kid. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
347
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:29:00 -
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I am always amazed how many "kids" play this game. Especially when Eve is supposed to have the most mature audience of all MMOs.
And "disabled vets", of course...
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 8 |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
266
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:20:00 -
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The only one to blame here is the kids mom.
Remove insurance. |
Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
63
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:31:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Put another way: If PLEX cant be stolen then people will buy more PLEX. With more PLEX on the market the price of PLEX will go down. PLEX become worthless, people no longer buy them with RL cash as making more ISK in game is easier and quicker. Well done, you killed the PLEX market entirely, cut the user base by a third but its ok, because now 12 year olds will play.
I think the way it works is that people who want to buy ingame currency buy a PLEX from CCP, then they sell that PLEX to someone in game with a lot of ISK.
If buying PLEX was safe, fast, and results in a good time then people will buy more PLEX to trade for ISK.
What that means is that the price to buy a PLEX in game with ISK will go down.
In the real world prices go down when transactions are made safe. I'm of the Austrian mindset re economics, which is a bit different than standard Keynesian ideas; but in this situation they both agree: When people have faith in the currency then business increases and prices go down.
I'm going to drink some coffee and see where this thread went overnight.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
43
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:31:00 -
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While this is a touching story, I believe he'll probably be over it already.
That being said I wonder if there are any affluent members of the community, GMs or ISDs who have a heart big enough to spare 500M from their trillions of isk to help this kid out and maybe stick a bounty big enough on the perp so the kid gets that warm feeling only created by bounty collection mails?
Its still retribution ;)
Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |
Tiberius Murderhorne
CONTRATTO
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
66
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:34:00 -
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find out the name of the scammer and post it.
Disclaimer : My posting does not always reflect my Corps views or my allience views.... Infact sometimes it does not even reflect my views! |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
305
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:37:00 -
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What does scamming bring to the game?
Ganking brings new ship hulls and a demand for more mods.
Also the mining barge exhumer barge wouldnt have been a cost issue, if TEC were to not be charging extortionary rates.
That and the fact it was shown they had lower health relative to their class, and definitely to low for their stated background. |
Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
50
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:39:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:I am always amazed how many "kids" play this game. Especially when Eve is supposed to have the most mature audience of all MMOs.
And "disabled vets", of course...
Ohh, I love the "disabled vets" in EVE. Always make sure to ask what unit they were with...it's always "classified" or some COD leetspeek. "Uhh, I was in Recon Squad, Sniper company, Green Berets". |
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
43
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:51:00 -
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Sorry would have answered earlier but still trying to stich up my arm in this damn forest after I kicked 7 bells out of the local hick force.
They dont like drifters.
Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |
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Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
63
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:09:00 -
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How about if PLEX were a type of ship. Call it a "bling ship" for now.
And you get 4 "bling-mobile's" for $20. You can also buy a month sub with 4 bling mobile's. Or from the Bling loot that drops when they get blown up.
Bling ships are invuln for a random number of systems, or a random length of time, or until the pilot attacks someone.
Same as PLEX, that market wont change. Scamable, lootable, destroyable, tradeable. Just like PLEX
But "Bling ships" guarentee the person who buys one a little fun and fly time. And It pushes that concentration of gankable, lootable, scamable wealth out away from the tradehubs and starter systems.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
50
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:16:00 -
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Why change anything? PLEX as it stands is about the perfect item in EVE. If you want to keep them perfectly safe, you can reverse redeem them out of game. If you want to take risks, you can bring them into the universe.
Don't change a system that ain't broke, just for an edge case. |
Doddy
Dark-Rising
834
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:23:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Secondly, if "his mom gave it to him" it was to give him a month of game time... so why was he trying to sell it to begin with. If I was his mom I'd be a little pissed off about that. That fact negates some of my sympathy.
Gotta disagree with you here. Remember this is the same age group that is paying all those f2p pay to win games on Facebook and PSN and the like. Parents give their kids in game money for stuff all the time (I've bought my kids cards for their games for their birthdays before). The problem is, in Eve, your stuff can be taken away from you pretty easily, whereas in those other games, it generally is yours once you get it. Quote:
No, the only issue is "is scamming allowed in the help channel, and did this event happen in the help channel or a convo?".
Fundamentally, I agree with you. However, the headache for CCP will be when mom calls her credit card company and says "That's an invalid charge because my son didn't get the thing I bought." TBH, I was surprised when CCP started allowing you to undock with PLEX - it's got to be mkore of a hassle for them than they first anticipated.
The son did get what she bought, he just gave it away afterwards.
Anyway the op says the guy came into the help channel after he got scammed. He tried to sell the plex, the guy convoed him and scammed him, exactly the same as they try to do on hundereds of contracts every day.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
942
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:25:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:The only one to blame here is the kids mom.
I agree.
How dare she not understand Eve.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
942
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:28:00 -
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Lovely Dumplings wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:I am always amazed how many "kids" play this game. Especially when Eve is supposed to have the most mature audience of all MMOs.
And "disabled vets", of course... Ohh, I love the "disabled vets" in EVE. Always make sure to ask what unit they were with...it's always "classified" or some COD leetspeek. "Uhh, I was in Recon Squad, Sniper company, Green Berets".
This made me smile.
Here in the UK, ex forces were always snipers in the Parachute Regiment.
This is not a signature. |
Diamond Bull
State War Academy
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:43:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Lovely Dumplings wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:I am always amazed how many "kids" play this game. Especially when Eve is supposed to have the most mature audience of all MMOs.
And "disabled vets", of course... Ohh, I love the "disabled vets" in EVE. Always make sure to ask what unit they were with...it's always "classified" or some COD leetspeek. "Uhh, I was in Recon Squad, Sniper company, Green Berets". This made me smile. Here in the UK, ex forces were always snipers in the Parachute Regiment.
Lol, yes it seems vets were always in those kinds of positions. Why aren't there any guys doing my Grandpa's job anymore? He was 30yrs American Air Force, First Sergeant, and he was in charge of keeping bases supplied and, well, he was kind of an accountant. Someone has to do it though!
I'd buy "I was a supply clerk" over "I was a sniper" any day of the week. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
305
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:13:00 -
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Was the money in the trade window correct at the start?
I have had(and done) people change the amount in a gamble to get you to click accept right after the amount changed.
I do not think that is scamming so much as exploiting the system function(network lag specifically)
An easy solution to this is to fix ISK amounts just as things dropped in the trade window are fixed.
You can still scam by failing to put in the zeroes, but now there is no issue of some one changing the amount from the agreed on earlier price with in the boundaries of network and client lag.
I mean this sounds much like using margin trading scam on legitimate but low volume items (tried it, was funny).
At no point are you able to discern a difference from real and scams. |
Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
144
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:30:00 -
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ITT: Remove scamming, we want the 12 year old COD audience |
Lovely Dumplings
Lambda Mining
51
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:42:00 -
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Diamond Bull wrote:
Lol, yes it seems vets were always in those kinds of positions. Why aren't there any guys doing my Grandpa's job anymore? He was 30yrs American Air Force, First Sergeant, and he was in charge of keeping bases supplied and, well, he was kind of an accountant. Someone has to do it though!
I'd buy "I was a supply clerk" over "I was a sniper" any day of the week.
Me, I did nine years as a medic, with a side order of computer tech.
Sometimes, I actually feel bad for the recon sniper who was in the Green berets. Nobody believes him! |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
810
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Posted - 2013.01.25 14:07:00 -
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Diamond Bull wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Lovely Dumplings wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:I am always amazed how many "kids" play this game. Especially when Eve is supposed to have the most mature audience of all MMOs.
And "disabled vets", of course... Ohh, I love the "disabled vets" in EVE. Always make sure to ask what unit they were with...it's always "classified" or some COD leetspeek. "Uhh, I was in Recon Squad, Sniper company, Green Berets". This made me smile. Here in the UK, ex forces were always snipers in the Parachute Regiment. Lol, yes it seems vets were always in those kinds of positions. Why aren't there any guys doing my Grandpa's job anymore? He was 30yrs American Air Force, First Sergeant, and he was in charge of keeping bases supplied and, well, he was kind of an accountant. Someone has to do it though! I'd buy "I was a supply clerk" over "I was a sniper" any day of the week.
I was a Teletype Terminal Device Repairer, officially. Unofficially, I fixed everything but Teletypes, because the military phased them out while I was in. I wanted to be a chopper pilot but I ended up in commo,.
The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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