What are the "static ISK fountains" in nullsec?

4. High sec
working as intended.

We are all aware of the situation out there in null sec.

What is our problem is when we start seeing threads on a consistent basis generated by null alliance members or their alts.

threads that attempt to erode the very nature of eve.

Lets examine the sectors of space that eve is split into and decide whether they need attention.

1. Null Sec
working as intended? Probably not. The conflict drivers appear to be broken. Sov battles are soul destroying and a chore. Static ISK fountains. Force projection. Lots and lots of areas requiring work.

2. Worm Holes
no complaints, the inhabitants of worm holes appear to be the happiest eve players at the moment.

3. Low sec
Under populated. No unique reason to visit this area in terms of resources but FW is providing much needed life. FW working much better than first implementation but still requires additional iterations.

4. High sec
working as intended. Combat still occurs here on a regular basis. As the NPC factions control these areas of space it seems logical that they are the safest to gather many resources in - most secure and policed. High end resources and rewards such as moon goo, faction and officer items and high end minerals are not available here - rightly. NPC corporations provide somewhere for new pilots to start but also for many of our alts to work from.

if I was to prioritise CCPs workload for the coming year based on system security my list would look like this:
1. null sec
2. low sec
3. high sec and worm holes.

What we are experiencing at the minute is the conquering armies of null sec running out of things to conquer. They have hit a hard edge - partly through their own actions and partly through CCPs game design. As a result of hitting that edge they have turned inward - where could they conquer next?

low sec is sort of pointless - by default if you own null sec you can use your resources to take low sec so mentally you already own these areas. Worm holes dont allow force projection which makes them a much tougher nut to crack. This is easily seen by the lack of any of the large null sec alliances as a force in worm hole conquest.

which leaves high sec. If CCP are lobbied enough they will look to change high sec - a little here, a little there, until the conditions are such that the conquering hoardes can move in and allow our faction NPC empires to be rulers in name only.

Increasing the problem further is the fact that each account has 3 character slots. We know from previous experience that CCP keep an eye on these forums. Major threadnoughts in the past have gotten their attention. In effect with 3 characters per account the current residents of null sec that are pushing for game change in empire can create a thread that looks like lively discussion but in fact is all the same people having a conversation.

to those of us living freely in our own area of the sandbox ask the following:

of a given request for change, who will benefit most?

Lowsec isn't "FW". FW is just a small part of the lowsec area.

Get out.

3. Low sec
Under populated. No unique reason to visit this area in terms of resources but FW is providing much needed life. FW working much better than first implementation but still requires additional iterations.

We love to post, this should not surprise anyone- however, post locations and methods of static isk fountains please.

I really really hope you're not talking about anomalies. I spent 2 1/2 hours last night and farmed up 200m with an ishtar. Sure I could do a little better and a little worse with different ships and fighters and such. All the while dodging hostile gangs.

I think I could do a little better in highsec with L4 missions and not even have to pay attention. So- where are the isk fountains?

When an ostrich burries its head in the sand, my gun doesn't vanish; I still shoot it.

That's pretty much the impression I get from this thread.

Focus on null, and no one will notice that there are high sec mechanics that are directly related to many peoples problems with null sec.


I bet you would ingore the stain on your ceiling as well.
Untill your roof falls on you while you're sleeping.

Simple fix to hisec industry stuff.

Turn 20 slots into 10, award all current items in queue completed to owners (It is a fair thing).
Thus the hisec matter is solved as now its make a POS or go expand out over the slots.

Time takes is 1 dt.
Well maybe more depending on the awarding of items.

Also there was a thread already posted of the moons.
Why?
Because time travel

Simple fix to hisec industry stuff.

Turn 20 slots into 10, award all current items in queue completed to owners (It is a fair thing).
Thus the hisec matter is solved as now its make a POS or go expand out over the slots.

Time takes is 1 dt.
Well maybe more depending on the awarding of items.

Also there was a thread already posted of the moons.
Why?
Because time travel

to those of us living freely in our own area of the sandbox ask the following:

of a given request for change, who will benefit most?

Simple fix to hisec industry stuff.

Turn 20 slots into 10, award all current items in queue completed to owners (It is a fair thing).
Thus the hisec matter is solved as now its make a POS or go expand out over the slots.

Time takes is 1 dt.
Well maybe more depending on the awarding of items.

Also there was a thread already posted of the moons.
Why?
Because time travel

Actually this "Fix" would hurt everyone, including those 0.0 power blocks, since they shop at Jita anyways...

Or actually, lets do it, im sure you fellows would love to pay douple price on everything...

Hilarious

Actually this "Fix" would hurt everyone, including those 0.0 power blocks, since they shop at Jita anyways...

Or actually, lets do it, im sure you fellows would love to pay douple price on everything...

This thread has nothing at all to do with Hi sec industry, please take this discussion to the other threads that already exist on the subject.

edit: also interesting to note that although we have many replies from residents of null sec we have no denial whatsoever. Nothing like 'hi sec is crap why would we want anything to do with it?"

As someone else pointed out, it would have to be done with other revamps.

I saw a quote from soundwave floating around that CCP was discussing moving T2 production to .7 and lower systems.
That's effectively the same thing as cutting all available slots in half.


Some of us want MORE production in null, high sec mechanics, combined with current station and system upgrading, forces LESS production in null.

The entire thing is assbackwards. T2 production shouldn't be undermined by high sec, and it is. That's not right when it's null materials that are required to build T2 goods.

High end resources and rewards faction items are not available here - rightly.

There are, in fact, faction spawns, as well as DED-plexes, in high-sec.

What are the "static ISK fountains" in nullsec?

You forgot to mention that everything you need to make T2 items is found in high sec.

The only people who think that nothing is wrong are those that know and dont' want it fixed, and those people who have no understanding of how the different areas of EVE are really connected.

really?

everything you need to make T2 items? Are you sure about that?

faction spawns and DED plexes. What, roughly 1 for every 10 available in null sec? Barely worth factoring in tbh.