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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:12:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:pretty sure if the OP stops whining, and updates their skill queue, they could probably get all racial frigs to IV, all racial cruisers to III, destroyers to V, and battlecruisers to IV before june 4th.
Even if OP didn't manage to get BC and Dest completely to level V, they would be at least a good 90% of the way there and so would get all the racial BC and Dest skills given to her almost fully completed in the next expansion.
With a Per and Will remap over 1 month is almost certainly enough time to max them out though.
Edit - Looks like Dave confirmed it in evemon also ^ So OP you really have no excuse to whine. Now get out of our sight :) |
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:16:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote: I exactly got what they are to tell me:" Omg. **** u didn't train all skills on time? Haha fail! We planned all ahead and u didn't. NOOB!"
That's what most posts address.
Actually, I believe what I said was "Haha noob thinks he needs to fly EVERYTHING". Also something something have fun something planning too long term.
There, was that easier to skim? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4051
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:17:00 -
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It boils down to the fact that training will be much easier for new pilots, especially since new pilots need to specialize to be effective.
Meanwhile, it will be much hard for older pilots to cross train into different racial ships.
Pretty much the exact opposite of what you believe to be the case.
If you are too ignorant to understand this, I don't know what to tell you. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami Moon Warriors
319
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:20:00 -
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I say we pick what we want to fly, found out how to acquire what support skills for it, and then skill up for it and fly it.
Far easier than freaking out on what you MIGHT have missed out on. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:24:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:It boils down to the fact that training will be much easier for new pilots, especially since new pilots need to specialize to be effective.
Meanwhile, it will be much hard for older pilots to cross train into different racial ships.
Pretty much the exact opposite of what you believe to be the case.
If you are too ignorant to understand this, I don't know what to tell you.
Exactly. I tried explaining this to the OP but she still thinks we are all just trolling her. lol
The whole purpose of tiericide is to make it easier for new players to compete with veterens.
You can get an orca now in 14 days when vets had to spend months training for it to name just one example. So I really have very little sympathy for you at all. I'm glad CCP are making it easier for you, but you still have the audacity to complain. |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
132
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:30:00 -
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I have 84 mil skill points. Dr. Caymas has over 200 mil skill points.
I think CCP should give me 116 mil skill points to allocate to whatever I like.
Just Saying... R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
368
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:34:00 -
[97] - Quote
you still have time to train all the cruisers to 3 and bc to 5 if you start now.
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Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
368
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:35:00 -
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welp you missed your chance.
sorry about that. think of the bright side of things. as a newer player you dont have to train bs V to fly a cap ship now. |
fukier
927
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:42:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:and ******** thread of the day goes to... OP, congratulations!
hmmm... dave does have a point... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
328
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:44:00 -
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This thread is worth an enormous freight container full of popcorn.
Remove insurance. |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1397
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:52:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:Hi everyone. Probably my post will bring a lot of criticism but I want to make a point. Yup. Knowing that in advance is the first cue that you ought to reconsider posting.
Quote:Due to ship skills revamp people who train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V are going to get around 6mil SP. That is fine. But players who dont do that will get nothing. Lack of planning on your part does not constitute obligation on CCP's part.
Quote:I propose that players who decided not to train the mentioned skill get partial recompensation (say 30% of the max possible skills). You propose that people who failed to plan should get something for nothing. I see.
Quote:Some of u will object because we all knew that in advance and could train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V. Yup.
Quote:BUT while for older players 20-30 days of training is nothing newer players cant afford to spend so much time on 1-2 skills. It gives unfair advantage to older players and players who already have Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V over newer player. Who said life was fair? This is EVE. EVE is harsh. HTFU or GTFO.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13750
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Posted - 2013.04.23 18:52:00 -
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Bah! Too slow. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
281
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:07:00 -
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So -- I'm not really a great fan of the DDs or BCs, but I do love the pirate ships, and so I figured I'd invest the training time just in preparation for when they release pirate versions of those. My guess is that CCP'll have a lot of people sitting around with universal BC5 and DD5 who'll be thrilled by T2 and pirate versions of those ships-- so here's to hoping... ;) |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1397
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Bah! Too slow. True. I R fail.
BUT... I've got BC and Dessy to V on three alts. Will have on five by the time the changes come. By the OP's premise, I win the lottery!
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
NickyYo
SpaceFroggy
356
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:16:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:Hi everyone. Probably my post will bring a lot of criticism but I want to make a point. Due to ship skills revamp people who train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V are going to get around 6mil SP. That is fine. But players who dont do that will get nothing.
I propose that players who decided not to train the mentioned skill get partial recompensation (say 30% of the max possible skills). For example, if someone gets zero additional SP from summer expansion he qualifies for 6x0.3 = 2m free SP to allocate. If the player gets 2m SP from summer expansion he qualifies for (6-2)x0.3 = 1,3m free SP to allocate etc.
Some of u will object because we all knew that in advance and could train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V. BUT while for older players 20-30 days of training is nothing newer players cant afford to spend so much time on 1-2 skills. It gives unfair advantage to older players and players who already have Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V over newer player.
That's why I propose recompensation. So let me get this right - You want a reward for failing to plan ahead for a change that has been announced for at least 6 - 9 months. How about No? Does No work for you?
Ok, smart ass.
Lets see if i get this right -
A customer would like their purchase to be transfered to a new service as the old one has become obsolete. When you view eve not as real life but as a product you pay for then the ops question is severely valid sir.
- NickyYo. .. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1316
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:18:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:Hi everyone. Probably my post will bring a lot of criticism but I want to make a point. Due to ship skills revamp people who train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V are going to get around 6mil SP. That is fine. But players who dont do that will get nothing.
I propose that players who decided not to train the mentioned skill get partial recompensation (say 30% of the max possible skills). For example, if someone gets zero additional SP from summer expansion he qualifies for 6x0.3 = 2m free SP to allocate. If the player gets 2m SP from summer expansion he qualifies for (6-2)x0.3 = 1,3m free SP to allocate etc.
Some of u will object because we all knew that in advance and could train Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V. BUT while for older players 20-30 days of training is nothing newer players cant afford to spend so much time on 1-2 skills. It gives unfair advantage to older players and players who already have Destroyers V and Battlecriusers V over newer player.
That's why I propose recompensation. So let me get this right - You want a reward for failing to plan ahead for a change that has been announced for at least 6 - 9 months. How about No? Does No work for you? Ok, smart ass. Lets see if i get this right - A customer would like their purchase to be transfered to a new service as the old one has become obsolete. When you view eve not as real life but as a product you pay for then the ops question is severely valid sir. - NickyYo.
The service that is being paid for isn't changing at all. Then again I am not sure why I expected a NickyYo post to make sense. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |
JamesCLK
306
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:20:00 -
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WTB Forum "Place Bounty" button. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13754
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:21:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Ok, smart ass.
Lets see if i get this right -
A customer would like their purchase to be transfered to a new service as the old one has become obsolete. You didn't get it right.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Black Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:25:00 -
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This is exactly the attitude of today's society. Do nothing and get it all |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1316
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:27:00 -
[110] - Quote
Black Cadelanne wrote:This is exactly the attitude of today's society. Do nothing and get it all
It definitely seems to be the attitude of the newer crop of players. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |
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Royal Executioner Shazih
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:29:00 -
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Black Cadelanne wrote:This is exactly the attitude of today's society. Do nothing and get it all
I'm not supposed to do anything. I pay for this game as everyone else. But I see that I'm put into disadvantageous position over older players by CCP change (concerning combat ships) and I don't like. All posts like 'deal with it' are not valid here. I want official CCP response. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1316
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:32:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:I want official CCP response.
CCP has already given their original response on several occasions and in several other threadnaughts. Since that was all you wanted, we can close this now, right?
Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13756
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:33:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:I'm not supposed to do anything. You are supposed to accumulate your SP like everyone else. Instead, you're asking for handouts.
Quote:But I see that I'm put into disadvantageous position over older players by CCP change (concerning combat ships) Only in the sense of GÇ£you're seeing thingsGÇ¥ = GÇ£you're hallucinatingGÇ¥. You'll be able to fly the exact same combat ships after the patch as you could before it. They'll be able to fly the exact same combat ships after the patch as they could before it.
Change in position: none.
Quote:All posts like 'deal with it' are not valid here. Oh? Why not?
Quote:I want official CCP response. The official CCP response is GÇ£deal with itGÇ¥, and has been sinceGǪ ohGǪ February 2012 or so. Since you're not losing anything, you're not getting anything. After all, why should you? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Black Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:35:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:Black Cadelanne wrote:This is exactly the attitude of today's society. Do nothing and get it all I'm not supposed to do anything. I pay for this game as everyone else. But I see that I'm put into disadvantageous position over older players by CCP change (concerning combat ships) and I don't like. All posts like 'deal with it' are not valid here. I want official CCP response.
and i wanna peace on earth but ....you know. dosent work. i would also a lot of money whitout work but....you know....ahhh nevermind...thats senseless. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1399
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:36:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote: I want official CCP response.
For this..?!
'Want' in one hand and poop in the other. See which one fills up first. Your whinging sense of self-entitlement is jawdropping.
Royal Executioner Shazih wrote: All posts like 'deal with it' are not valid here. So are all self-entitled "gimmee gimmee gimmeee things I didn't earn" posts. You knew coming into the thread you were going to get hammered. You admitted it in almost your very first words in this thread. Knowing that, you have the temerity to complain that you've recieved precisely what you predicted..? ! Words fail.
I say again: This is EVE. EVE is harsh. HTFU or GTFO. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:41:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote:I'm not supposed to do anything. I pay for this game as everyone else. But I see that I'm put into disadvantageous position over older players by CCP change (concerning combat ships) and I don't like. I see. So you don't like the fact it will take you well over a month LESS time to train into a Dreadnaught then everyone else who already flies one?
You're right. That's not fair. But it's ok, they just deal with it. Like we deal with having to butcher our skill queues or give up on cross training. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3262
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:47:00 -
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Royal Executioner Shazih wrote: I'm not supposed to do anything. I pay for this game as everyone else. But I see that I'm put into disadvantageous position over older players by CCP change (concerning combat ships) and I don't like. All posts like 'deal with it' are not valid here. I want official CCP response.
The ONLY players who will be at a disadvantage are the players who create new characters and simply do not have enough time to complete the Frigs to 4, desis to 5, cruisers to 3 and BC to 5.
Everyone else has been repeated warned. Dev blogs were made long ago detailing EXACTLY what you needed to get the free stuff...thats right..THEY TOLD YOU WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO TO GET FREE SP!!!!
For minimal effort..MINIMAL EFFORT, you too could have partaken in the glorious SP rain which ALL the rest of us will be showering in. You chose to ignore pretty much everything that was said about this change for a year, and now want to also partake in our FREE SP SHOWER?!?! NO.
Actions..or in OPs case INACTIONS have consequences. In this case, the consequence is NO FREE SP FOR YOU. Please feel free to read that in the soup **** voice, as that is the spirit in which it was intended. Also, since that voice is already preloaded into your minds..NO REMAP FOR YOU. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
45
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:49:00 -
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OP's desire to level the playing field between new players and old is commendable, but does not go far enough. Anyone who did not start playing EVE on day 1 is currently penalized by a lack of SP. Therefore, I propose each player receive a skill point credit equal to the difference between their current total, and the total of the highest SP player in the game. Further, since players without implants will continue to lag behind, I propose their SP balance be adjusted monthly to compensate. Also, since older players have had the opportunity to periodically remap their attributes, newer players should be granted additional remaps based on how long they waited to start playing EVE. And since applying so many remaps is bound to be a source of confusion for newer players, it should be possible to adjust past remaps retro-actively to optimize the training they didn't have the opportunity to do.
Once this SP scandal has been rectified, we can then address the relative wealth discrepancy between newer and older players, and redistribute assets accordingly. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1400
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:52:00 -
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Manny Moons wrote:Once this SP scandal has been rectified, we can then address the relative wealth discrepancy between newer and older players, and redistribute assets accordingly. The Marxism is strong with this one... Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Royal Executioner Shazih
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:57:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Royal Executioner Shazih wrote: I want official CCP response.
For this..?! 'Want' in one hand and poop in the other. See which one fills up first. Your whinging sense of self-entitlement is jawdropping. Royal Executioner Shazih wrote: All posts like 'deal with it' are not valid here. So are all self-entitled "gimmee gimmee gimmeee things I didn't earn" posts. You knew coming into the thread you were going to get hammered. You admitted it in almost your very first words in this thread. Knowing that, you have the temerity to complain that you've recieved precisely what you predicted..? ! Words fail. I say again: This is EVE. EVE is harsh. HTFU or GTFO.
The only reason I expected criticism is that I already know that EVE society is corrupted. But it does not make my post invalid in any way. The only reason players stand against me is their detrimental way of thinking (if i suffered, every1 should suffer). Concerning the posts that say like 'it took me XX days to train to capital ships and u only need xx days doesn't make any sense because u already enjoyed piloting dreadnought for XX days while I haven't. |
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