So a few thousand of your own alliance members and a few thousand of their alts outside alliance is not considered vote rigging them? Im sure it is in real life..

That is a pretty good analogy. Like American politics, posts on the forums break down into stereotypes, insults and name calling.

IS this guy trying to say that American politics are the only ones to pull this kind of thing?

Oh, it is to laugh.

They don't give you that warm feeling inside because they're not fighting to buff your mission bots / isk return. You got Trebor and that other person what's his name? Whatever. The current CSM got voted because they presented their platforms they believe in and also gained the favor of their own alliances because they share similar feelings.

PS: Use enter's less. Makes you look like you are skilled in grammar.

You argue like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, Karadroid. Please stop posting now, kthxbai.

You argue like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, Karadroid. Please stop posting now, kthxbai.

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Remove the CSM

Supporting statements?

Supporting statements?

Everything i have read leads me to believe the current CSM is not working in my perceived best interests. I am not convinced that removing the concept of the CSM is the proper solution. I hope Hilmar is clever enough to realize that focusing the future of EVE and Dust on the rantings of the flavor of the month CSM chair is lunacy.

If this game builds it's future on catering to the bitter whiny afraid to undock alone vets of Null it's going to implode once the number of Null alts reach the diminishing number of new players that stick around longer then a few months.

While this self serving CSM tends to their own "sucking chest wounds" they scoff at every injury they inflict to player enjoyment and retention. I sincerely hope that CCP does not actually believe that players are quitting because they are upset that life is too easy for high sec players.

This game will hopefully always have a hardcore contingent of elite pvp zealots but that should not be at the cost of not improving the game and making it more enjoyable for all players.

Newer players and representation based on where most players play not on where CCP wishes they should play needs to be implemented. A reformed CSM could consist of a High sec rep, a low sec rep, a wh rep, a newbie rep, a null rep and an at large rep from each empire.

This could be verified by CCP to make sure Phony Alts of high sec members could not succeed in pretending to be Null seccers and vice versa.

No player owned corp member could vote for the at large rep that would be restricted to players who have remained in their starter NPC a bunch of great people there who help new players get their space legs.

Love Null vote only in Null, Love WH vote only in WH and so on in most Democracies you don't get to vote everywhere you have an interest or a business just where you live. EVE's biggest sucking chest wound is the lack of balanced representation that understands ignoring player apathy towards voting might be a good strategy for winning an election with a large Alliance block of votes but it is a terrible business model for sustained and prolonged growth. Wake up Hilmar!

Um. Point out those who are saying people are quitting because they think hisec life is too easy, please?

Also, how many sucking chest wounds are there for hisec that is actively threatening to stagnate hisec to death?

Gatecamps and station camps on all the major trading hubs? Funny, I keep flying in and out of them all the time, they never seem to bother me.

As to my null sec reps on the CSM claiming hisec guys are leaving because it is too easy ... what I've seen so far has been mittens saying L4 botting is a problem, incursions are good because it teaches PVP-ish behavior (even though I find the wow-speak in incursion channels absolutely ******* atrocious), and Vile Rat wanting more hisec careers to make hisec more interesting.

Honestly, if I were to assume people in hisec left for a reason, I would assume it would be because hisec can be too boring, especially if they haven't found a good corp. Too safe? I think it seems mostly balanced wrt safety as it is. vOv

While this self serving CSM tends to their own "sucking chest wounds" they scoff at every injury they inflict to player enjoyment and retention.

Name one.

Name one.

Let's try this again.



Something THE CSM has done to inflict injury to the playerbase, not what someone on the CSM in the game has done. Completely seperate things, and if you are unable to realize that then well, debating this point further is pointless.

So again, Name One.

STAY ON TOPIC - I WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM REPORTING TROLLS

Advocating griefing is somehow anti-eve?

I also preferred Eve before the CSM for some very simple reasons.

I like my games designed by game designers. I enjoyed the game hugely when it was designed by CCP and I was looking forward to a lot of the future material CCP had planned.

It is the staff and shareholders/owners of CCP whose livelihoods stand or fall on the success of the game. The CSM have no investment, risk nothing, so they have neither the skill nor the incentive to look at creating a good game for all players.

The last concurrent usage figure recorded in the alliance tournament was something over 600,000 characters logged in.

Most of these players do not care one whit about null sec. Most of them did not vote for the current CSM. Which means most of them did not want the current CSM. This CSM does not represent me. I did not choose them. I had no say in their appointment. It was CCP I chose, that I voted for with my wallet, and I never thought they needed anyone to tell them what to do.

I want to play the amazing, deep, open, engrossing, wonderful game I was playing before a bunch of unqualified nullsec muppets started screaming to have their own way. I want my Eve back. I want my CCP back.