Not all democracies are parliamentary.

In other news, I'm getting the distinct impression that you dislike the CSM because CCP is treating it as a hiring pool instead of hiring people with a BA in "game design" as though those are worth the paper they're printed on.

Eve before CSM 1: Awesome
Eve since CSM 1: Meh
Desire to have CSM no matter who is on it: 0%

What, specifically, did any CSM do to make the game worse?

if 85% of the playerbase isn't voting, it's because none of the candidates on offer make them want to, either because they have no contact or connection with those people (which makes them bad representatives) or because they simply are not wanted (which still makes them bad representatives).

We're still waiting.

As I said repeatedly in my previous posts, they pushed CCP's attention onto irrelevant things.

The reason nobody voted is because most high-sec players are goof balls that don't read the forums, don't think the CSM matters, don't know much about eve game mechanics aside from their very limited fields of interest, and only sometimes read the eve news as they log in. They don't vote in real life, let alone in a video game. They're casual beyond caring, and effectively amateurs at EVE. By contrast, all of the CSM candidates up there right now have experienced wide swaths of the game and have a much more holistic view of the game than you give them credit for.

Like what? None of us has any clue what has you mad other than the implementation of a basic democracy.

Okay, so you're mad about nothing. Why didn't you just say so?

All those wonderful things that you think the CSM has done have, in my opinion, been horrendously bad business moves rooted in fanaticism and hysteria.

Yet you can't actually cite a single example of this despite a page of people asking for it. How curious!

List of CSM Resolved Issues

The above is the list of items the CSMs have brought to fruition.

As stated in my previous post, the number of those issues I personally care about is 2.

The number of them I think needed the intervention of a CSM is 0.

Specificity is a good thing in discussions like this.

The driver behind what? CSM corruption?


CCP's flawed voting system that allows multiple account holders to Vote for members of their own large alliances.

people in this thread hate freedom, democracy and representation and are literally al qaeda agents sowing anti-democratic ideals amongst us

I wonder if the unrestricted freedom & democracy you seem to be a proponent of was implemented how well you could tolerate it?

Being a citizen of a real nation that has a representational government installed under the control of a constitutional democracy that protects the freedoms of all against the changing winds of the majority is a wonderful thing. I think the historical phrase is "Protecting the minority against the tyranny of the majority."

The majority of the player base is in High sec, they exercise their freedom of democratic majority to nerf the hell out of everything you like about null sec and EVE. For example make transit from null to high sec impossible for anything but shuttles and industrial ships. They vote to make it impossible for anyone with a negative sec status to fire a weapon in offense in high sec, you can defend yourself but can't gank .

Let's just fix the flaws in the CSM structure and not discard it. Maybe a way to recall members that are perceived as too biased against anyone who did not vote for them would be a good starting point. That way your voting power block could get you elected but only working for the greater good of the greater player base would keep you in office. Otherwise be careful what you hope for, ........ you might get it!

there are so many contradictions in your post that I'm not even going to bother writing up a response beyond this

So, most people in eve don't actually think the CSM is doing a bad job, then?

The majority of the player base is in High sec, they exercise their freedom of democratic majority to nerf the hell out of everything you like about null sec and EVE.