Armor tank... on a T1 industrial. For reals? Sorry, I pretty much stopped reading anything you were posting after that.

The ammunition bay seems like an avenue for considerable abuse; you can fit quite a few hoarders inside of a carrier's ship maintenance bay, and each of those hoarders can be filled to the brim with ammunition for mineral compression purposes.

First page all positive, I'm outta here

Great job!
Battle Iterons incoming

Outer Ring Excavations specialize in industry ships.

They should take control of tech behind the Iteron II, III, IV and Horder.

So new BPO seeders and new skins for those ships.

I havent read the whole 30+ pages, overall awsome changes but ore hold and mineral hold being the same is wrong. 45k / 450k better

We still need a t1, t2 that can carry a packaged battleship. It is stupid that we have to train for an orca or a freighter in an industrial sense, when it's faster to train to fly the ship it self to haul it.

Even giving a ship the capability to haul 2 packaged battleships will not interfere with the roles of the orca and freighter, but servers a middleground.

If this can be done trough a container or special bay, it will not be able to be abused, and the m3 problem solved

ITERON MARK IV - Ore Bay (Ore includes Gas, Ice, and Mineral Ore)

There is actually a reason for not being able to carry over 50,000m3 of general storage in a T1 (or T2) industrial.

Currently C1 wormholes have a mass limit of 20,000,000 m3. In simple terms, everything BUT a battleship can fit into that wormhole (a battleship is too massive that it will not fit). For a point of reference, the ORCA cannot fit into a C1. A Retriever (mining barge) can fit into a C1, the Covetor (also a mining barge), Cannot.

Giving the T1 and T1 small industrial the ability to fit battleship hulls would circumvent the C1 mass limitation on battleship hulls. Currently the only way to bring a BS or higher into a C1 is to build it in there, but then it cannot ever leave.

There might be a few other reasons but those are the ones I know of atm.

Hey sorry I've been missing for a bit - weekends you know.

So I don't have much to add here, glad that you guys are still feeling good about this mostly. A couple small updates though:

We are not going to do any name changes. There's just too much risk/cost in doing that with not enough benefit in this case. It is specifically concerning that we would change them based on current function, then change function in some way down the line and be left with names that make no sense. In general changing what things are called is pretty yucky so I feel good about avoiding it here.

As far as WHEN, I can't say exactly but its a good chance that it will be before the end of Summer.

Have fun see you o/

Use another ship?

Hey sorry I've been missing for a bit - weekends you know.

So I don't have much to add here, glad that you guys are still feeling good about this mostly. A couple small updates though:

We are not going to do any name changes. There's just too much risk/cost in doing that with not enough benefit in this case. It is specifically concerning that we would change them based on current function, then change function in some way down the line and be left with names that make no sense. In general changing what things are called is pretty yucky so I feel good about avoiding it here.

As far as WHEN, I can't say exactly but its a good chance that it will be before the end of Summer.

Have fun see you o/

What will the mineral requirements be for these ships, will they be changing?

I would assume (granted i've never built one) that the mark II, III, and IV require less minerals than the Ity V?

The ammunition bay seems like an avenue for considerable abuse; you can fit quite a few hoarders inside of a carrier's ship maintenance bay, and each of those hoarders can be filled to the brim with ammunition for mineral compression purposes.