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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.26 07:32:00 -
[331]
 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Bump due to importance.
Dont worry.. Tuxford has already stated that he is looking into this.
/Mav
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.27 04:16:00 -
[332]
Doesn't hurt to keep it fresh for everyone.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.01.27 04:42:00 -
[333]
hey tux - you know you want to join hammer in this thread... 
love you long time... 
you too tomB... 
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Weirda
Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More!
The pumps don't work... |
Elaina Cosengo
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Posted - 2006.01.27 20:29:00 -
[334]
Wolverine what help does the Enyo need, it can kill any other AF and the Ishkur with its drones gives the big four a hard time as it is, evil little drones.
I dont think we should be destracted with the Harpy, Enyo, Ret or Wolf well maybe the wolf a little, Remember this is about the crappy others that need to find roles rather than being OK at everything (not).
Specialization is the way to go and these ships dont spec in anything. give us 8 to pick from not 4 (five if you count Ishkur) i really dont know about the 4th bonus so dont ask me.
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Mesasone
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Posted - 2006.01.28 16:52:00 -
[335]
bumpity bump :D
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.01.28 17:10:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Elaina Cosengo
Wolverine what help does the Enyo need, it can kill any other AF and the Ishkur with its drones gives the big four a hard time as it is, evil little drones.
I dont think we should be destracted with the Harpy, Enyo, Ret or Wolf well maybe the wolf a little, Remember this is about the crappy others that need to find roles rather than being OK at everything (not).
Specialization is the way to go and these ships dont spec in anything. give us 8 to pick from not 4 (five if you count Ishkur) i really dont know about the 4th bonus so dont ask me.
qft (apart from the madatory minnie whine)
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.01.29 15:56:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Weirda
hey tux - you know you want to join hammer in this thread...
love you long time...
you too tomB...
page 4... 
really hoping that this can be done at least along with KALI... if not earlier...
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Weirda
Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More!
The pumps don't work... |
Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.29 16:16:00 -
[338]
sorry, weirda - I would've bumped it earlier but I was forum banned for 48 hours :/
still needs looking at
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Reatu Krentor
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:24:00 -
[339]
hey ho, back to top you go
was thinking about 4th bonus as well, give all AF a tanking bonus as that is what their role is, a tank more or less... just a thought
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.01.29 21:16:00 -
[340]
Edited by: CardboardSword42 on 29/01/2006 21:16:31
Gotta keep this thread on the first page
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.30 04:49:00 -
[341]
Bump. Flew my harpy today with someone who had a Hawk. I think they now have a Harpy.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Zippy Pinno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:34:00 -
[342]
Suggestion for Jaguar bonus:
5% bonus to AB speed boost per level.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.02 09:38:00 -
[343]
bump
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2006.02.02 09:49:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Sarmaul
bump
Hey man watch where ur going u BUMPed my car:)
Oha nd if i'm here, pls loose the fake bonus and replace it with something usefull!!!
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3030
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Posted - 2006.02.04 09:06:00 -
[345]
I think need create optional ship module, when u build personal fit.
Example: 3 Slots:
1.(+30CPU, -5PG)
and other
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Rob Boberton
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Posted - 2006.02.06 22:21:00 -
[346]
I find your views fascinating and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
More launcher 4 hawk!
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Erik Pathfinder
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Posted - 2006.02.06 22:34:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Kai Lae
Hawk - +1 med, +1 launcher hardpoint (NOTE - you really don't want only launcher hardpoints, it makes setups a bit predictable), (frigate) 5% bonus to missile ROF, 5% bonus to shield resists, (AF) 5% bonus to missile velocity, 5% bonus to rocket and standard missile damage per level.
Everything he said here please
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.02.06 23:03:00 -
[348]
I might be completly off with this but I'm just trying to keep the conversation fresh so bear with me.
I think it's important that every af fulfills a unique role. It's just that 3 of them don't cut it. As far as I can see the 3 ships sacrifice damage in exchange for something else.
hawk - tanking
jag - speed/versatility
vengeance - cap
In all of the cases the loss in damage doesn't make up for what they gain. The hawk tanks nicely but can't kill anything, the jag doesn't have the cpu to take advantage of it's balanced slot layout and the vengeance doesn't have the slots to make good use of it's huge cap regen.
So should they be buffed towards fulfilling their current roles or should we scrap the roles for something else as they're flawed in the first place?
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.02.07 04:35:00 -
[349]
Yes the jag does need a buff and i think the extra mid slot and 30 more CPU is just the thing.
can't really comment on the other ships because i dont fly them.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.07 09:28:00 -
[350]
bumpety bumpety bump
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Zippy Pinno
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Posted - 2006.02.07 18:30:00 -
[351]
And another thing:
We dont need the stinking optimal range bonus on Jaguars and Wolfes. It discriminates against Auto Cannons. Make it a falloff bonus.
Guns have equal rights too.
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Vox Virilis
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Posted - 2006.02.17 05:43:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Zippy Pinno
And another thing:
We dont need the stinking optimal range bonus on Jaguars and Wolfes. It discriminates against Auto Cannons. Make it a falloff bonus.
Guns have equal rights too.
Agreed! should definitely be changed to falloff bonus.
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I'm Boba the Fett.
I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt,
to finance my Vette.
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Tuxford
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Posted - 2006.02.17 08:41:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Vox Virilis
Originally by: Zippy Pinno
And another thing:
We dont need the stinking optimal range bonus on Jaguars and Wolfes. It discriminates against Auto Cannons. Make it a falloff bonus.
Guns have equal rights too.
Agreed! should definitely be changed to falloff bonus.
Oh now everybody wants my falloff bonus.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.02.17 08:56:00 -
[354]
Has anyone considered that maybe AF don't need a fourth bonus? That maybe.. they'll still suck even with a fourth bonus? I think they're perfectly fine. I think its everything else to do with combat balance in this game that is screwed up.
- interceptor damage output
- precision missiles
- overclass nosferatus
- Drone tracking
Four reasons why AF suck more than they should.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.17 09:21:00 -
[355]
The trouble with falloff is that it looks good on graphs, but when it comes ot practice, the Jaguar, and Rifter, are immensley more useful with this bonus because they are tacklers, and by defenition that means they need to get up close, and this is where the tracking bonus helps them to do damage, even with the big guns.
So while it makes a nice graph layout, falloff is much less useful in the situations those ships were designed for.
Life is not a bunch of numbers :)
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Mesasone
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Posted - 2006.02.17 12:47:00 -
[356]
Back to page one *****es, hell yeah! WESSSSSTTTTSIIIIIDDDDDDEEEE!
Silly mods, sigs are for wabbits. |
Somatic Neuron
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Posted - 2006.02.17 15:09:00 -
[357]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Has anyone considered that maybe AF don't need a fourth bonus? That maybe.. they'll still suck even with a fourth bonus? I think they're perfectly fine. I think its everything else to do with combat balance in this game that is screwed up.
- interceptor damage output
- precision missiles
- overclass nosferatus
- Drone tracking
Four reasons why AF suck more than they should.
QFT...interceptor damage output is too high, considering they should be intercepting and tackling, not intercepting and destroying. Intys should have, at most, 2 high slots for turrets, plus 1 utility slot for Nos/Neut....they should all have at least 3 mid slots for EW...and 4 low slots for armor tanking...
Tier 1 Intys should have less armor tanking capability, and maybe 1 turret highslot...
bonuses for the Intys should be related to tackling/survivability (for instance...bonus to warp scrambler/disruptor range as first bonus, bonus to armor resistances per level (based on race of ship) as second bonus, and all Intys should have inherent warp core stabilizers built in ala blockade runner transport ships.
This would make the Assault frigs more powerful and more useful in and of itself...and put the Intys more in line with the way they should be (i.e. fast tacklers that can jump a ship that is trying to escape and still live to tell the tale as long as support comes up to take care of it...solo Inty kills should drastically reduce (except for things like frigs/shuttles/indys)
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Starlix
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:08:00 -
[358]
Hi did this ever go anywhere?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.17 23:26:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Vox Virilis
Originally by: Zippy Pinno
And another thing:
We dont need the stinking optimal range bonus on Jaguars and Wolfes. It discriminates against Auto Cannons. Make it a falloff bonus.
Guns have equal rights too.
Agreed! should definitely be changed to falloff bonus.
Oh now everybody wants my falloff bonus.
yes, on minmatar ships that fight in their falloff, not amarr ships that fight in their optimal
also, bump
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Sarmaul 4tw. 
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Jaeuhl
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Posted - 2006.02.18 08:47:00 -
[360]
and if/when the hawk does get the launcher addition, can we put those spanky missile silos somewhere on the AF? much like the crow has...it's an AF it should look beefier and not just a worm dipped in PAAS during Easter.
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