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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:44:00 -
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Anything that gives love to the Caldari, gets love from me.
23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.22 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Edited by: Shan''Talasha Mea''Questa on 20/12/2005 13:56:37 Why haven't the assault frigs inherited both T1 boni for their frigate V skill ?
Edit: Spelling.
Good question. I want my shield resists boost to my Harpy. 
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2005.12.24 02:39:00 -
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/me wakes up the thread, it should not die before a dev answers (and not out of topic of course )
Originally by: DarK The cluetrain obviously doesn't stop at this station anymore...
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Kai Lae
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Posted - 2005.12.24 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Good question. I want my shield resists boost to my Harpy. 
I see this as more likely for the harpy, actually.
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Zippy Pinno
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Posted - 2005.12.24 08:39:00 -
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In addition to the fix/balance we might need a third AF per race. For Minmatar there is a cool little number called a Blade in the DB - it has a 5-4-5 slot layout.
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Kai Lae
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Posted - 2005.12.24 09:05:00 -
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I'm sure, since that has 14 slots, and therefore more than a logistics cruiser. I wouldn't bet on getting that.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.24 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zippy Pinno In addition to the fix/balance we might need a third AF per race. For Minmatar there is a cool little number called a Blade in the DB - it has a 5-4-5 slot layout.
and 99% EM resist (or was it 100%?) -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |

Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.12.24 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Zippy Pinno In addition to the fix/balance we might need a third AF per race. For Minmatar there is a cool little number called a Blade in the DB - it has a 5-4-5 slot layout.
and 99% EM resist (or was it 100%?)
It was 100% resistances, fun ship to fly. Some BugHunter left one on the test server and I knicked it. Getting shot at by Radio Crystals was fun.
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.12.24 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 24/12/2005 10:43:01 Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 24/12/2005 10:40:06 Yes please give Hawk two more missile hardpoints, throw away the gun hardpoints/rail bonuses, and add more missile bonuses, preferrably damage  (please, not "kinetic only")
<3
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
Originally by: CCP Hammer Weirda no love Hammer?
of course do! just "don't touch this" (unless fixing AFs)! 
Doh! Weirda says she loves you, and you don't come back in the thread? That's not nice for her Hammer 
(yes it was a shameless bump for the thread )
Originally by: DarK The cluetrain obviously doesn't stop at this station anymore...
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2005.12.25 17:21:00 -
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Guess what I wanted for xmas. 
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2005.12.25 17:42:00 -
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AF's are supposed to be point defense ships. If they don't get their fourth bonus and boosts in PG/CPU for some, they are in danger of becoming obsolete once Interdictors become cheaper, say 6 months from now.
I really think Tech 2 Destroyers should have kept their ROF penalty, with speed close to Interceptors and twice the firepower these things are going to be insane.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.25 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Zippy Pinno In addition to the fix/balance we might need a third AF per race. For Minmatar there is a cool little number called a Blade in the DB - it has a 5-4-5 slot layout.
and 99% EM resist (or was it 100%?)
100% - those ships are classed as escort ships in the DB, and each race had their enemy's primary damage output resisted to 100% (i.e. amarr 100% exp resistance, caldari 100% thermal, gallente 100% kinetic, minmatar 100% em). ------------- Please make Minmatar overpowered, CCP |

Tha Tyger
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Posted - 2005.12.25 19:03:00 -
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lot of good idea's =) I won't start buggering people by telling my ideas, because I use dumb setups :P
Anyways, I am somewhat disappointed that the only dev comment was as useless as a filthy sock =/ (yes hammer, your comment was pointless) I would like to know what the dev team thinks of these ideas and if there is some change planned for the AF (AS whatever you like to call em)
(ps: give the Thorax some more drone space again =/ )
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Longasc
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Posted - 2005.12.27 02:47:00 -
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I see no easy way to fix the Vengeance, it is neither armor tanker nor shield tanker.
But the Retribution needs a 2nd Medslot. Heck, it is limited to PvE with only one.
Please do not say people should simply use a Vengeance... it is better to train for other races AF's... :(
Give the Retribution a 2nd Medslot, so that at least ONE Amarr AF can be a viable choice.
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.12.27 22:46:00 -
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What the vengeance really needs is its shield reduced so it's not equal to its armor. Wtf was the person who designed it thinking? -- I don't represent my alliance
God is on the side with the best artillery |

Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.28 16:19:00 -
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now we to the point where someone is making a new post about something that is already in this thread every day. 
can we please get some word to the update? are AF going to be looked at? or are they 'just fine' with 3 bonuses? is the Jag 'just fine' with the same slot as MK2 Rifter? 
Hammer, while weirda appreciate you humor, it would be very nice to know that someone take the AF seriously!  _____________ Thread Killer Give Assault Ship need 4th Bonus + Jag and Vengeance Upgrades, make Hawk Missile AS! |

Forsch
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Posted - 2005.12.28 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda is the Jag 'just fine' with the same slot as MK2 Rifter? 
I knew this would be brought up after all the love the rifter got.  (Offtopic: The rifter was a well used frigate before RMR, now it's even better. Imo it's not the jaguar having too few slots, it's the rifter having too many. But that's just me. )
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.28 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Forsch
Originally by: Weirda is the Jag 'just fine' with the same slot as MK2 Rifter? 
I knew this would be brought up after all the love the rifter got.  (Offtopic: The rifter was a well used frigate before RMR, now it's even better. Imo it's not the jaguar having too few slots, it's the rifter having too many. But that's just me. )
the jaguar is technically missing a slot though. ------------- Please make Minmatar overpowered, CCP |

Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.28 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Forsch
Originally by: Weirda is the Jag 'just fine' with the same slot as MK2 Rifter? 
I knew this would be brought up after all the love the rifter got.  (Offtopic: The rifter was a well used frigate before RMR, now it's even better. Imo it's not the jaguar having too few slots, it's the rifter having too many. But that's just me. )
the jaguar is technically missing a slot though.
yup - and so is the Vengeance, Hawk and Ishkur... but arguably the ishkur does not need the 11 slot that the others do.
also consider that pre-rmr the punisher had 4/2/4 (10) and the rifter had 4/2/2 (8)... you really think that 1 extra hardpoint make up for 2 slot Forsche? 
but weirda digress, the issue at hand is the 'non-assault' assault frigs... not the mk2 update, which for the record weirda think Tux did a great job with! (the breacher could have used a bit more of ... something though)  _____________ Thread Killer Give Assault Ship need 4th Bonus + Jag and Vengeance Upgrades, make Hawk Missile AS! |

Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.01.02 22:17:00 -
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Friendly bump. RMR has since been released making the lower tier AF's look even more useless.
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Ysolde Xen
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Posted - 2006.01.03 11:31:00 -
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*bump*
It's sad that in order to make the 'lower tier' AFs competetive in their own niches you have to have about 15 skills at 5 and another 50-odd at 3... and a nice dose of luck.
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Just because you couldn't get a ship to do what you wanted doesn't mean it's a crap ship - it means you're a crap pilot of that ship.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.03 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ysolde Xen *bump*
It's sad that in order to make the 'lower tier' AFs competetive in their own niches you have to have about 15 skills at 5 and another 50-odd at 3... and a nice dose of luck.
if you say so 
anyhoo they still need to fix the bonii and the slot on lower tier AF.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Tha Tyger
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Posted - 2006.01.03 12:05:00 -
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Well still no usefull comments from devs / gm / whatever, I see =(
This issue is quite urgent if you ask me, as frig sized ships are my favored ships in battle. I don't have to much troubles with the wolf myself, but when I get into the Jaguar I get the feeling that it's just and reinforced rifter (Rifter with some added shield =/). Same goes for the Ishkur. I love the drone space it has (would like to see it being increased with 5 m^3, but I can live without that), it's odd to get a nice setup on it, especially for PvP.
*sigh* I do hope some devs or so will reply. This tread deserves it!!
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elFarto
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Posted - 2006.01.05 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: elFarto on 05/01/2006 09:31:14 Yes please, replace the Retribution's fake resistance bonus with a proper +5% to all per lvl, taken from the Mk2 Punisher.
Regards elFarto
Stratego > 2005.10.22 14:15:17 combat Imperium Alliance petitions you, glancing off causing no real damage. |

Uther Doull
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Posted - 2006.01.05 15:00:00 -
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so any1 care to explain why a jaguar has the exact same slot layout as the mk2 rifter and the wolf actually has 1 less mid slot?
right now taking cost etc in consideration i see no reason why any one would fly a wolf much less a jaguar over a rifter....
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2006.01.05 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Uther Doull so any1 care to explain why a jaguar has the exact same slot layout as the mk2 rifter and the wolf actually has 1 less mid slot?
right now taking cost etc in consideration i see no reason why any one would fly a wolf much less a jaguar over a rifter....
The same reason I fly a Retribution instead of a Harpy.
It's just cooler 
-- Originally by: Nyphur The irony is astounding. The sheer level of raw irony here is enough to iron my clothes for a year.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.01.05 16:26:00 -
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it is true - weirda think that this thread have had enough views/idea since inception to warrent serious look from dev. 
every day am waiting to see 'assault ship bonus overhaul' as a new stickied thread... but alas... 
AF are still great ship - and weirda never say that they aren't... they are gimped from other t2 ship though because of the bonus... and the slot count of 1/2 of them. had warned the RMR would magnify this problem even more and it has.
here's to hoping - and surprise that this thread suddenly got a few more posts!  __ Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.05 16:32:00 -
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still signed
assaults seem half finished. you made stealth bombers much better - a class of ship that hardly anyone uses - so why not the assaults? Turn interceptors into dedicated tacklers (screw the 50% damage, give them 50% scrambling + web range) and turn assaults into the proper combat ships like hacs are for cruisers.
oh, and add the missing slots :)
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Hippey
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:02:00 -
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/signed
inties > AF = f**ked up --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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