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Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 10:22:00 -
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Goddammit CCP! We need more tank on our Hulk... oh wait, wrong thread. |
Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC
Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:36:00 -
[512] - Quote
Sadly, I suspect that will get a response... |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
245
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:02:00 -
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All the butthurt in one thread!
"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
194
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:11:00 -
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Epic fail. 
It happens. 
New CQ prototype |
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
298
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:00:00 -
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*has a light bulb blink above his head...
You know CCP, perhaps if the poor hamster server farm did not have all those flashy graphics being used for each and every star gate jump across the universe and the Tron like effects for scanning each and every system for every player, perhaps the server would have been quite cool and stable and this potentially epic battle could have played out.
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Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC
Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:44:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:*has a light bulb blink above his head... You know CCP, perhaps if the poor hamster server farm did not have all those flashy graphics being used for each and every star gate jump across the universe and the Tron like effects for scanning each and every system for every player, perhaps the server would have been quite cool and stable and this potentially epic battle could have played out.
You do realize that all of the graphics end of things is handled client-side by your computer, right? That as far as the server is concerned, there is no difference between making you wait at a loading screen and letting your home computer show you the Dr. Who tunnel? Server-side, the only thing going on is a session change.
Unless CCP's completely insane, it's the same thing for system scanning - the server tells your machine where things are, just like it always has, and your client handles the visual sweep and displaying the anomalies in space. |
Levaria
Incertae Sedis
10
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:08:00 -
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Will a CSM and or a Dev at least give us some sort of feedback so far? *Holds out trembling hands* Kind sir...even a crumb of a response will suffice... Seriously CSM's why do we fly your butts to Iceland, so you can Ignore topics like this? 
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Dorn Val
Probe Patrol
Polarized.
137
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:24:00 -
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Meh -crap happens. If it's not a typo then it's an FC changing his mind about tackling the bait when it's too late for you to cancel warp. Chill out folks, the mistake itself isn't the real issue...
1) There should be a better, more automated way, for nodes to be re-enforced. Since you market the game based on these big fights being possible you really should make the end user experience better CCP. TiDi was a good START -but it's not the solution...
2) Maybe it's time to look into the underlying hardware and code that makes Tranquility. I remember someone saying that the software wasn't multi-thread or multi-core capable.
Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate... |
Ditrius Bedala
BecauseICaNDoIt
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 14:08:00 -
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Dorn Val wrote:2) Maybe it's time to look into the underlying hardware and code that makes Tranquility. I remember someone saying that the software wasn't multi-thread or multi-core capable.
As software developer I can say that this will require hilarious amount of man-hours. If their server-side code was written as single-threaded code, then it's refactoring will nearly equal to writing the server from scratch. It will involve inventing new multi-threaded server architecture, resolving the problem of synchronization in multithreaded application and so on. That's that simple as you may imagine. Also, before putting newly written server into production the internal tests shall take place, which also will consume a great amount of time.
Taking all these subjects into account, I believe from economic point of view it's senseless for CPP to start processing such big amount of work. |
elite god
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:18:00 -
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I would like to state what happened was extremly irrisponsible due to CCP interfearing with game play causing the crash happened. I understand the method they were trying to use to reinforce the node but communication failure that is being stated is someones fault. Like any orginization people who messed up should be removed from CCP itself in a very public fashion to make up for this very public blunder and set a standard for something like this not to happen again. You have damaged the reputation of the game and mostly wasted peoples time and isk. CCP will probly right this off as somewhere in the EULA agreement allows this to happen. But the truth is people are leaving eve, the number ticker use to read 60,000 now were in the 40,000+ range and that includes DUST 514 players. A incedent like this will cause more players to leave so this must be handled properly. |
Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC
Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:06:00 -
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The whole of the weekend, and now another weekday, without even an acknowledgment from CCP that after they asked for questions in this thread, we've put questions in this thread. |
Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC
Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2013.07.10 01:54:00 -
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Well, we're now into Wednesday in Iceland (albeit the middle of the night) and still no acknowledgment in this thread.
I wonder, if I start yelling, will there be an echo?
...cho?
...cho?
crap. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 02:21:00 -
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Ditrius Bedala wrote:Dorn Val wrote:2) Maybe it's time to look into the underlying hardware and code that makes Tranquility. I remember someone saying that the software wasn't multi-thread or multi-core capable. As software developer I can say that this will require hilarious amount of man-hours.
Well, WoW did it along with a 64bit client. Engine is as old as EvE's.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Paul Leonard Kersey
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.07.10 02:25:00 -
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Typical CCP, forces you to discuss their failure in 1 thread, then ignores it.
CCP, Pro customer service since 2003 |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.10 04:17:00 -
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Let it sink to page 2 and so on where it will be forgotten forever.
Op success. |
Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC
Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:33:00 -
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Unless it doesn't sink.
Still nothing at all from CCP. Not even a forum rep poking their nose in. |
Miss Altiana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:25:00 -
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Grown ups crying in epic proportions, a advise goons !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ |
OldWolf69
IR0N.
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:48:00 -
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There's always a brighter side of life. Sadly not for Gallentes.
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Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC
Fatal Ascension
32
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Posted - 2013.07.10 08:46:00 -
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Miss Altiana wrote:Grown ups crying in epic proportions, a advise goons !
Yes, because expecting accountability from those we pay for a service, and to not simply be ignored and dismissed out of hand in a bait-and-switch bit of pablum to brush concerns about CCP's IT failings, these things are 'crying'.
Tell me, do you feel the same way when your mechanic screws up your car? Do you just shrug and keep paying the computer technician who loses all your data? The landscaper who manages to destroy your yard? |
Miss Altiana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:23:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Miss Altiana wrote:Grown ups crying in epic proportions, a advise goons ! Yes, because expecting accountability from those we pay for a service, and to not simply be ignored and dismissed out of hand in a bait-and-switch bit of pablum to brush concerns about CCP's IT failings, these things are 'crying'. Tell me, do you feel the same way when your mechanic screws up your car? Do you just shrug and keep paying the computer technician who loses all your data? The landscaper who manages to destroy your yard?
Seriously, im not realy sure how serious you are, but, maybe you should go turn your computor off, leave the blue and red pills alone, its pixels !... there is like proportions to things, and i rather see this as a game, so if the game designers screw up my game, well id go outside, read a book , wait for them to fix it ?, and if i had my land scaper destroy my "digital" garden... you know, im sure you never made a mistake ?  |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:04:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Miss Altiana wrote:Grown ups crying in epic proportions, a advise goons ! Yes, because expecting accountability from those we pay for a service, and to not simply be ignored and dismissed out of hand in a bait-and-switch bit of pablum to brush concerns about CCP's IT failings, these things are 'crying'. Tell me, do you feel the same way when your mechanic screws up your car? Do you just shrug and keep paying the computer technician who loses all your data? The landscaper who manages to destroy your yard?
It's crying when it only concerns pet interests.
There's other issues on the plate (like things making players physically sick), and CCP is on vacation.
It's about priorities. A fight in null isn't a top 1 priority to the game. You understood the risks anyway, in a game you also know can't handle large fleet ops...which you guys continually do despite the system can't run it properly (CCP doesn't have CRZ or phasing to offload the spikes, it has to hard cap with a wall that is every bit like instancing but worse, as folks can't use the same space or capped from entering a zone).
Don't want it to happen again? DON'T BLOB. EvE can't handle it, it was never designed for 400+ fleet battles and the tech can't handle it (and won't until CCP updates hardware [$$$$$$$$] and programs for it [$$$$$$$$]). It was designed for raid size battles of the old days of 40man sizes (as the concept of 400+ battles in 2000 was unheard of...that's how old EvE is and the design it was built on, 2000 tech).
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Paul Leonard Kersey
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:27:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Arrendis wrote:Miss Altiana wrote:Grown ups crying in epic proportions, a advise goons ! Yes, because expecting accountability from those we pay for a service, and to not simply be ignored and dismissed out of hand in a bait-and-switch bit of pablum to brush concerns about CCP's IT failings, these things are 'crying'. Tell me, do you feel the same way when your mechanic screws up your car? Do you just shrug and keep paying the computer technician who loses all your data? The landscaper who manages to destroy your yard? It's crying when it only concerns pet interests. There's other issues on the plate (like things making players physically sick), and CCP is on vacation. It's about priorities. A fight in null isn't a top 1 priority to the game. You understood the risks anyway, in a game you also know can't handle large fleet ops... which you guys continually do despite the system can't run it properly (CCP doesn't have CRZ or phasing to offload the spikes, it has to hard cap with a wall that is every bit like instancing but worse, as folks can't use the same space or capped from entering a zone). Don't want it to happen again? DON'T BLOB. EvE can't handle it, it was never designed for 400+ fleet battles and the tech can't handle it (and won't until CCP updates hardware [$$$$$$$$] and programs for it [$$$$$$$$]). It was designed for raid size battles of the old days of 40man sizes (as the concept of 400+ battles in 2000 was unheard of...that's how old EvE is and the design it was built on, 2000 tech).
Just stop.
Eve didn't launch till 2003
If the game wasn't designed for it, then why does CCP itself say it was? Look at any Eve news article, hell even in CCP's
trailers, "thousands of players" in fights.
Stay in high-sec and keep your mouth shut about things you don't understand.
Bottom line is CCP screwed up. Then locked every thread about said screw-up, forced all discussion to this thread, then simply ignored it.
Is customer service to much to ask for from a company we pay? Or are you just a big brown-nosed troll? |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:39:00 -
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Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:Just stop.
Eve didn't launch till 2003
/facepalm
/facepalm
/facepalm
This is exactly why mouth breathers are but cannon fodder. They don't understand anything but to pewpewpew, and can't find 2 brain cells to rub together.
Sit down and find another brain cell, as class is in session:
MMOs on average take 4 years to build.
EvE was released in 2003.
Now do the math.
Class dismissed!
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Paul Leonard Kersey
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:54:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:Just stop.
Eve didn't launch till 2003 /facepalm /facepalm /facepalm This is exactly why mouth breathers are but cannon fodder. They don't understand anything but to pewpewpew, and can't find 2 brain cells to rub together. Sit down and find another brain cell, as class is in session: MMOs on average take 4 years to build.
EvE was released in 2003.
Now do the math.Class dismissed!
Yeah brown-nosed troll.
Building a MMO where only 40 people can fight on a grid? If you really believe that then your opinion isn't valid anyway.
Oh and you want some math? $20 x 500,000 subs = $10 MILLION PER MONTH But CCP can't afford hardware?
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:00:00 -
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Hey guys.
We've been pretty busy talking about stuff internally, which is why there's been no communication in this thread.
I'll gather up some of the questions from here, and see if I can pin some answers to them in the next few days.
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Miss Altiana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:06:00 -
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Thanks Falcon, keep the great work and funs going, and by the way, give us CAS people some goodies while at it  |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:08:00 -
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Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
Yeah brown-nosed troll.
Building a MMO where only 40 people can fight on a grid? If you really believe that then your opinion isn't valid anyway.
Oh and you want some math? $20 x 500,000 subs = $10 MILLION PER MONTH But CCP can't afford hardware?
Were you even born in 2000 to realize the tech back then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khQ4owaUURo
That's when EvE was being built. That's the type of engine that this world operates on. Just like in WoW (but Blizzard at least goes back and update it for 64bit and multithreading...it used to only operate on one CPU).
Little resources = things don't get fixed. Little resources = you get gated.
Want fixes, got to have the cash. It doesn't grow on trees.
Business 101.
Now whine like a kid, the reality is the fix isn't coming any time soon. Get used to it, EvE is a sandbox game along with the sandbox funding problems. You're pushing the game to what it wasn't designed to handle, and still can't 10 years later.
Which is what things MMO 2.0 is about to fix and improve upon.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Paul Leonard Kersey
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:09:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:
Hey guys.
We've been pretty busy talking about stuff internally, which is why there's been no communication in this thread.
I'll gather up some of the questions from here, and see if I can pin some answers to them in the next few days.
Oh 5 days and 27 pages later you care?
More like "They're not letting it die! Quick to damage control!"
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Paul Leonard Kersey
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:19:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
Yeah brown-nosed troll.
Building a MMO where only 40 people can fight on a grid? If you really believe that then your opinion isn't valid anyway.
Oh and you want some math? $20 x 500,000 subs = $10 MILLION PER MONTH But CCP can't afford hardware?
Were you even born in 2000 to realize the tech back then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khQ4owaUURoThat's when EvE was being built. That's the type of engine that this world operates on. Just like in WoW (but Blizzard at least goes back and update it for 64bit and multithreading... it used to only operate on one CPU). Little resources = things don't get fixed. Little resources = you get gated. Want fixes, got to have the cash. It doesn't grow on trees. Business 101.Now whine like a kid, the reality is the fix isn't coming any time soon. Get used to it, EvE is a sandbox game along with the sandbox funding problems. You're pushing the game to what it wasn't designed to handle, and still can't 10 years later. Which is what things MMO 2.0 is about to fix and improve upon.
TEN MILLION a month isn't "little resources" troll, maybe you should relearn business 101?
BTW this is 2013 incase your head is to far up there to notice. With a new "expansion" every 6 months they couldn't update something? NOPE still running the EXCAT SAME thing as 2003 right?? RIGHT??
To CCP:
Stop with the "pretty patches", put away the Barbie dress-up clothes in a spaceship game, and fix the problems.
If you advertise "epic fights with thousands of players" then be able to deliver, or stop making claims you can't back-up.
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CCP Falcon
3440
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:31:00 -
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Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
Hey guys.
We've been pretty busy talking about stuff internally, which is why there's been no communication in this thread.
I'll gather up some of the questions from here, and see if I can pin some answers to them in the next few days.
Oh 5 days and 27 pages later you care? More like "They're not letting it die! Quick to damage control!"
There's thing thing, it's called the weekend, and it's that time where a lot of our development team spend time with their families after working long hours all week.
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