Considering one shield boost cycle basically fills your entire shield, you have to let your shield run to 0 before you boost or you're just wasting boost and when you're at low shields, yes you are one nado hit+ a little bit more from being alpha'd.

The cynabal gets an extra mid, an extra rig and a whole lot more fitting. If you use that extra mid on a shield boost amp, which co-incidentally gives you almost the same bonus as the 7.5%/lvl, you can fit a similar ship. The cargo hold on the cynabal is the only annoyance.

[Cynabal, X:L ASB Dual Prop.]
Internal Force Field Array I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Dread Guristas Co-Processor

10MN Afterburner II
Gistum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II

Even gets the ability to kite.

That costs a ton more then the vaga, tanks 1 third, and has a huge sig. Vaga is miles ahead.

The fact that the Vaga is square-peg-round-holed into a single fit that is tight beyond what most pilots can fit that has to run with 3 implants, drugs, and overheat everything just to get those numbers is pitiful.

Look at the other HACs, none of them have such tight fittings, none of them have to fly with so many implants, none of htem have to overheat all their mods and use boosters, hoping they don't get side effects, just to get a decent fit.

The Vaga needs a buff, and that "fit" isn't what the Vaga should be.

Tanks 1/3, yes maths, it's a difficult thing. It actually tanks 80% as much as the Vaga.

You are a flat out mong.

The cap bonus on the Sacrilege was one of its core components allowing it to tank well (which is basically the only thing it does right atm) and now you're removing that bonus and give it a range bonus which *may* allow it to kite (regarding the low base speed and the armor tank this is highly questionable) HMLs only reduce the sacs already terrible dps even further. And the added drones wont support your "kiting" either. Make it the brawler it should be with high resistances and the necessary cap to run a dual rep. If you want to tweak sth then start at it's dps, it's pretty terrible and adding some drones will help a small bit but won't encourage the unique amarr missile boat (needs MOAR missiles ;)

Cyna tank 724 with heat, vaga 2.1k.

The cap bonus on the Sacrilege was one of its core components allowing it to tank well (which is basically the only thing it does right atm) and now you're removing that bonus and give it a range bonus which *may* allow it to kite (regarding the low base speed and the armor tank this is highly questionable) HMLs only reduce the sacs already rerrible dps even further. And the added drones wont support your "kiting" either. Make it the brawler it should be with high resistances and the necessary cap to run a dual rep. If you want to tweak sth then start at it's dps, it's pretty terrible and adding some drones will help a small bit but won't encourage the unique amarr missile boat (needs MOAR missiles ;)

How did you even get into Tuskers, Suli must think you suck some good phallus mate.

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20130729-nmw3-305kb

"Cerberus" and "too powerful" in the same sentence. That's a first.

Anyway, THANK YOU SO MUCH for the CPU on the Ishtar, CCP Rise!

(if you werent in sc id call you bad names now)



(edit, and no dualprop is not the wa yto go, but its a valid option)

Vaga definitely needs more shield HP to XLASB effectively (Rise, if you expect us to LASB, I will lose the last of my respect for you, LASBs suck) otherwise the Vaga will get alpha'd since its shield boost is the same as its shield HP, meaning the Vaga pilot has to wait until he has NO SHIELDS to boost, or lose tank.

Still worried on the shield boost bonus on a ship with only 4 mids. It bee lines the ship on a basic single fit.

I first assumed that same since you boost 1780 out of 2180 per asb cyle, but thats still1.4k ehp (doesnt sound like a lot but thats about as much as a standard (nonarty) medium sized gun hits you for per volley) and you can bleed armour/structure for quite a bit, you just cant wait and you need to boost immeditaly once you get below 14%.

http://imgur.com/omX9rre


(if you werent in sc id call you bad names now)



(edit, and no dualprop is not the wa yto go, but its a valid option)

We did look closely at the MWD cap use bonus and in the end decided that there wasn't any replacement compelling enough to warrant a change.

Let's pretend outside of the gimmick ASB Vagabond that the standard mid-layout on Vagabonds hasn't been LSE/LSE/MWD/Point and then your argument might hold some water.